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6 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Next meaningful precip up here is not until Friday night on the 12Z ECMWF.   That is almost a week away.   Pretty crazy.  

@LowerGarfield this runs delays precip enough that there shouldn't be any issues over the pass for either of us on Friday.

That would be nice! Hoping it holds. The quickest route over the snake announced they will be closed Friday afternoon, adding an hour on my route so I'll continue to watch for the updates which are super appreciated by the way, @TT-SEA

Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel)

First Freeze: 10/27/2023

Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24)

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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That shower just dropped another 1.2" of snow. Only .2" of snow away from moving past January 2012. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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6 minutes ago, Doinko said:

Have you passed 80"?

82.9" now. 66.8" since February 13th. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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@TigerWoodsLibidowhat is/was your cold season snow total...saw you had flakes today.

Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel)

First Freeze: 10/27/2023

Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24)

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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3 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Pretty frustrating that the GFS got worse after the upgrade.   And it seems like the ECMWF has gotten a little worse as well.   Or maybe it just feels like it because we had so many marginal set ups this year.

Just don't remember the phantom snow problem being as bad 3 or 4 years ago. Though that's also when I moved north the Chuckanut Mountains so can't rule out it simply working worse for the local climate here.

It's called clown range for a reason.

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2 hours ago, snow_wizard said:

I am seriously bummed we didn't get to see that amazing event here due to cloud cover.

It was apparently visible from the westernmost parts of Vancouver around 2:00 am. Alas it was a week night and I live in East Van. Did get up twice to check and saw nothing but the glow of city lights reflecting from the overcast.

It's called clown range for a reason.

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6 minutes ago, AlTahoe said:

You are sub 2000' elevation correct? That is a very impressive seasonal total. 

Yes, it's our 2nd highest seasonal total since I moved here in 2011. The 11-12' season had several huge storms, but they all melted very quickly, that winter was much warmer (and wetter) overall. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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2 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Last summer made me realize analogs are mostly useless.  😀

It's all HAWTTER and DRIER from here on out 😧

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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This trough to end the month is starting to look like a BEAST.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Final round of snow has ended, about 1/2" with this band. Up to 4.7" on the day 36/30. Skies are clear now. 12.9" with this trough since Thursday afternoon. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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That trough next weekend is looking pretty insane. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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31 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

That trough next weekend is looking pretty insane. 

For the first time in what seems like forever... the GFS actually doesn't show any lowland snow for the next 17 days and that is saying something for the GFS!

And how about this absolute beast later next week.   The GFS shows some 60-degree rain with this monster.   Personally I would love some warm rain with southerly flow.

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4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

And how about this absolute beast later next week.   The GFS shows some 60-degree rain with this monster.   Personally I would love some warm rain with southerly flow.

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17 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

For the first time in what seems like forever... the GFS actually doesn't show any lowland snow for the next 17 days and that is saying something for the GFS!

And how about this absolute beast later next week.   The GFS shows some 60-degree rain with this monster.   Personally I would love some warm rain with southerly flow.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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9 minutes ago, Phil said:

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Why do you say that?   Its been very dry and warm rain is awesome at kicking plant growth into high gear.   I would take 3 days of warm, humid rain over 3 days of sunshine right now.   No joke.  

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As frustrating as it is for me watching the same people getting snow nearly every day I would still choose the current pattern over going into warm rain.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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13 minutes ago, lowlandsnow said:

Insane amounts of snow for California 

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Yay.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

As frustrating as it is for me watching the same people getting snow nearly every day I would still choose the current pattern over going into warm rain.

A little variety is nice and warm rain would be how we can make up precip deficits quickly.    

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Just now, TT-SEA said:

A little variety is nice and warm rain would be how we can make up precip deficits quickly.    

I'm just afraid if we go there we will be stuck in it for weeks.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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I like how people handing out the weenie tags act like they wouldn't be pissy getting shafted for the last month.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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@SilverFallsAndrewI have enjoyed your snow reports.They have given me something to watch and enjoy the last week. Did you have any power issues? My Estacada coworker lost her power just around noon and was out all afternoon yesterday.

Unrelated Fun fact: I used the @ symbol to check but every letter of the alphabet has at least one or two registered users with their name starting with that character.

 

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Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel)

First Freeze: 10/27/2023

Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24)

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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I don't feel like handing out a bunch of DMs, so here are some bullet points:

1) Jesse stop responding to Tim. It's bordering on targeted harassment and it's just clogging the board, especially in these downtimes.

2) Tim, you can just block Jesse. It's not hard. It seems you and him almost never talk on mutual terms, so you'd be doing yourself some good. Me included.

3) Ditto for Jim. And I wouldn't ruminate on the cartoon weiners on an internet message board. Doesn't do the conscious good.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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3 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Down to 33 degrees. 

The stupid clouds moved in here so I'm stuck at 38.  Tomorrow night should be widespread cold though.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Just now, Meatyorologist said:

I don't feel like handing out a bunch of DMs, so here are some bullet points:

1) Jesse stop responding to Tim. It's bordering on targeted harassment and it's just clogging the board, especially in these downtimes.

2) Tim, you can just block Jesse. It's not hard. It seems you and him almost never talk on mutual terms, so you'd be doing yourself some good. Me included.

3) Ditto for Jim. And I wouldn't ruminate on the cartoon weiners on an internet message board. Doesn't do the conscious good.

I'm just in a mood.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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23 minutes ago, LowerGarfield said:

@SilverFallsAndrewI have enjoyed your snow reports.They have given me something to watch and enjoy the last week. Did you have any power issues? My Estacada coworker lost her power just around noon and was out all afternoon yesterday.

Unrelated Fun fact: I used the @ symbol to check but every letter of the alphabet has at least one or two registered users with their name starting with that character.

 

I get him being so excited about his snow, but it's kind of like somebody from Maine coming on here and posting about their snow all the time.  I know I'm being an azz for saying this, but I'm frustrated.

It's just the way it is with this climate.  Except in rare cases it's about 30% of the members being the haves and the rest being the have nots.  Obviously who the 30% is changes around with various events.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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8 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I'm just in a mood.

We've all been there.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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