PNW March 2023 Weather Discussion (2012 Redux)

[TT-SEA]

6 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

I don't feel like handing out a bunch of DMs, so here are some bullet points:

1) Jesse stop responding to Tim. It's bordering on targeted harassment and it's just clogging the board, especially in these downtimes.

2) Tim, you can just block Jesse. It's not hard. It seems you and him almost never talk on mutual terms, so you'd be doing yourself some good. Me included.

3) Ditto for Jim. And I wouldn't ruminate on the cartoon weiners on an internet message board. Doesn't do the conscious good.

I know how to block someone.   He is not quoting me of course... as that would be making an effort to have a conversation.   I don't like blocking anyone because then you only see part of the conversation and it can be confusing.   

[LowerGarfield]

13 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I get him being so excited about his snow, but it's kind of like somebody from Maine coming on here and posting about their snow all the time.  I know I'm being an azz for saying this, but I'm frustrated.

It's just the way it is with this climate.  Except in rare cases it's about 30% of the members being the haves and the rest being the have nots.  Obviously who the 30% is changes around with various events.

Fair enough. I was in that sort of mood in the early half of the winter before I realized it was just how the year was shaping out for my location. So I get it.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

1 hour ago, LowerGarfield said:

@SilverFallsAndrewI have enjoyed your snow reports.They have given me something to watch and enjoy the last week. Did you have any power issues? My Estacada coworker lost her power just around noon and was out all afternoon yesterday.

Unrelated Fun fact: I used the @ symbol to check but every letter of the alphabet has at least one or two registered users with their name starting with that character.

 

Surprisingly not a lot of power issues because of the snow. In years past it has been a major issue, but its hasn't been too bad the past six weeks. We had a lot of power outages in late fall and early winter, for various reasons, but only two relatively brief ones with all this snow. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

52 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I get him being so excited about his snow, but it's kind of like somebody from Maine coming on here and posting about their snow all the time.  I know I'm being an azz for saying this, but I'm frustrated.

It's just the way it is with this climate.  Except in rare cases it's about 30% of the members being the haves and the rest being the have nots.  Obviously who the 30% is changes around with various events.

I get it too, I would be frustrated if the roles were reversed and they certainly have been in the past and I've been a huge weenie about it. This is now the best stretch for snow in the 12 winters I have been here, we've had some great runs before in 2019 and 2012, but this has now topped it. I really don't know what to say, it's been absolutely relentless for six weeks now. I do wish it was more widespread, and a lot of lower elevations scored big time in late February, but now as we head towards April, that's just not very likely. The amount of lowland snow we saw in NW Oregon over the past couple of days is actually fairly remarkable for late March, its too bad there wasn't more further north. 

 

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Down to 34F and a pleasant night. Might score a freeze.

Was a solid season. I would equate it to a sweet 16 run in the NCAA tournament for this location. So very grateful to break a streak and enjoy this cool stretch. Hopefully it lasts and can mitigate fire concerns.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Wow, the 06z GFS is something you frame, put on the wall, and tell the grandkids about someday.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

3 in Sunriver right now. Whoa.

[MossMan]

Had a low of 31. 
Currently 35 and partly cloudy. 

 

[The Cats Meow]

7 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I get it too, I would be frustrated if the roles were reversed and they certainly have been in the past and I've been a huge weenie about it. This is now the best stretch for snow in the 12 winters I have been here, we've had some great runs before in 2019 and 2012, but this has now topped it. I really don't know what to say, it's been absolutely relentless for six weeks now. I do wish it was more widespread, and a lot of lower elevations scored big time in late February, but now as we head towards April, that's just not very likely. The amount of lowland snow we saw in NW Oregon over the past couple of days is actually fairly remarkable for late March, its too bad there wasn't more further north. 

 

Living in the mountains of Oregon, what is the least amount of snow in a winter season that you've totaled?  And what is the most?

[TacomaWx]

This forum can sure get ugly in the off season good lord. 

[FroYoBro]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Wow, the 06z GFS is something you frame, put on the wall, and tell the grandkids about someday.

This late winter - early spring period has been such a wonderful blessing for Oregon and California. 
 

I saw a few friends yesterday and the weather randomly came up during small talk. They all agreed that they have been loving this start to spring. Lots of fun days with snow falling and nice mountain snow. We all hope it continues. The people are eating this up Andrew! 

[TT-SEA]

13 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Had a low of 31. 
Currently 35 and partly cloudy. 

 

Something on radar heading towards your area from the south now.

Clouds are broken here and should be some sun this afternoon and a decent amount of sun for most of the work week until Friday.  

[AlTahoe]

10 minutes ago, Hour364Please said:

Living in the mountains of Oregon, what is the least amount of snow in a winter season that you've totaled?  And what is the most?

I know this question was not intended for me but I wanted to respond because my spread is pretty incredible.

 

2014-2015 - 23"

This year 306" and counting 

[The Cats Meow]

Very consistent again.  April looks to be on the chilly wet side for the first ten days.

35 for a low here in the valley.

Sun should be out shortly to warm things up.

[The Cats Meow]

2 minutes ago, AlTahoe said:

I know this question was not intended for me but I wanted to respond because my spread is pretty incredible.

 

2014-2015 - 23"

This year 306" and counting 

306" is stunning.  I think that would be too much for me.

I like about 4-6" that stays for a few days and then leaves.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Wow, the 06z GFS is something you frame, put on the wall, and tell the grandkids about someday.

I logged in just to respond to this. HUH?? I was excited but then when I looked there is nothing really special,  just some chilly troughs. 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Been very cold here, freezing every night and some days have only been around 40. 

[AlTahoe]

15 minutes ago, Hour364Please said:

306" is stunning.  I think that would be too much for me.

I like about 4-6" that stays for a few days and then leaves.

It is to much for me and everyone else in town. We have another 12-18" coming Monday night. 

[Phil]

5 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I logged in just to respond to this. HUH?? I was excited but then when I looked there is nothing really special,  just some chilly troughs. 

Andrew loves zonal flow. I agree it’s .

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

3 minutes ago, AlTahoe said:

It is to much for me and everyone else in town. We have another 12-18" coming Monday night. 

Just a reminder that you live high in the mountains and this stuff still happens.  There's a reason the old timers settled in the valleys near the mountains. 

[Anti Marine Layer]

5 minutes ago, AlTahoe said:

It is to much for me and everyone else in town. We have another 12-18" coming Monday night. 

Should we get any heat waves later this spring, that stuff is going to melt like crazy and possibly flood the Central Valley. 

[Anti Marine Layer]

24 minutes ago, Hour364Please said:

Very consistent again.  April looks to be on the chilly wet side for the first ten days.

35 for a low here in the valley.

Sun should be out shortly to warm things up.

More of the same old same old.

[Anti Marine Layer]

Pretty amazing to consider our sun angles now match those of mid-September.

[TT-SEA]

10 minutes ago, Phil said:

Andrew loves zonal flow. I agree it’s .

Its not even a zonal pattern... the 06Z GFS was drier than normal here.    Also didn't show any lowland snow.   

[Phil]

3 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Pretty amazing to consider our sun angles now match those of mid-September.

Can definitely feel it now. The inside of my car gets scalding hot when parked in the sun, even on chilly days.

[Chewbacca Defense]

20 hours ago, snow_wizard said:

You and Whatcom County are pretty much in the minority.  Kind of disappointment for most other places.  NW OR did well with the late stuff and this area did well with the early stuff, but on the whole I can't give this winter better than a B here, and that's only because there has been so much cold.

We just can't seem to get a winter where everywhere does really well.

Eh.....hasn't been all that great up here in Whatcom County...granted we had the one big event, and then a small one that lasted about a day but that's it.  I have had a couple of days with wet snow in the air but it melted on contact.  Been kinda underwhelming here in the context of what folks are seeing from Arlington to points south.  We just haven't been getting the moisture up here with the cold.

[AlTahoe]

13 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Just a reminder that you live high in the mountains and this stuff still happens.  There's a reason the old timers settled in the valleys near the mountains. 

Oh yeah luckily the big seasons are very rare. Most Winters we get a long dry spell which melts/mitigates the snowfall and makes the big totals we get liveable. This year there was no melt to speak of which is incredibly rare. The last similar season I could find in the records was 1974-1975 and 1951- 1952

[Phil]

11 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Its not even a zonal pattern... the 06Z GFS was drier than normal here.    Also didn't show any lowland snow.   

It’s more zonal than not. And your area is wetter than normal after D5, verbatim, which I assume is the period Andrew is gawking over.  

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, Phil said:

It’s more zonal than not. Your area is wetter than normal after D5.

Looks close to normal here from day 5 to the end of the run.  But that is splitting hairs when analyzing a GFS run over 16 days.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

7 minutes ago, Phil said:

It’s more zonal than not. And your area is wetter than normal after D5, verbatim, which I assume is the period Andrew is gawking over.  

Very cold airmasses. I mean everyone pulled all nighters for weeks in December for a pattern that ended up delivering jack squat in terms of snow. At that point I decided, I'm going to follow the weather I know delivers for me. It's been a pretty awesome ride. 

The more posts you make like this the more I realize you don't understand our climate at all. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

48 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I logged in just to respond to this. HUH?? I was excited but then when I looked there is nothing really special,  just some chilly troughs. 

It's going to be April. The chances of lowland snow sans a historical event are basically gone. Even what the 06z GFS shows is unlikely to verify, but its a great pattern for the foothills and mountains and would continue building our much needed water supply. But multiple troughs with sub 522 thickness is pretty notable. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

The 06z dropped 17" of Kuchera here during the course of its run. FYI

Low of 30 this morning with occasional flurries and light snow. A nice dusting of about a quarter inch since midnight. Currently 32. Should get into the upper 30s later and see lots of melting, it is spring after all. I apologize if reporting current conditions bothers anyone. 

For the person who asked, we only had 3.5" of snow during the 2014-15 winter, 1" of which fell on April 15th. 

There have been plenty of years when we haven't had much snow, in the 10-12" range for the season, the most recent being 2020-21. 

[ShawniganLake]

1 hour ago, MossMan said:

Had a low of 31. 
Currently 35 and partly cloudy. 

 

Pna is coming up. Perhaps the worm is turning. 

[ShawniganLake]

1 hour ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Been very cold here, freezing every night and some days have only been around 40. 

You at your cabin?  When do the lakes typically thaw out up there?  

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Is that snow at Randy's house?!

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Willamette Basin snow pack is now 140% of average. Snow pack typically peaks April 1st, so if we keep building pack the numbers gonna get really crooked!

[TT-SEA]

3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Is that snow at Randy's house?!

Assuming the GFS has corrected its phantom snow and terrain bleed issues since yesterday... then definitely snow for Randy.  

 

[MossMan]

1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Assuming the GFS has corrected its phantom snow and terrain bleed issues since yesterday... then definitely snow for Randy.  

 

Well I did have just over an inch yesterday so I’m not ruling anything out. 

[TT-SEA]

Just now, MossMan said:

Well I did have just over an inch yesterday so I’m not ruling anything out. 

Definitely could happen!

[ShawniganLake]

9 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Willamette Basin snow pack is now 140% of average. Snow pack typically peaks April 1st, so if we keep building pack the numbers gonna get really crooked!

Does the spring freshet become an issue down there often.