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1 minute ago, Phil said:

The +ENSO correlation to warmth in NW North America, in isolation, is largely limited to winter/spring, so if that would be the statistically favored time of year for “worm-turnage”.

Though in reality each event is different, and numerous factors play into intradecadal variability. The persistence of the +NPMM/-SPMM dipole over the last decade, for example, has favored a wide+northward Pacific ITSZ/z-cell structure, which has augmented western warmth during boreal summer and autumn, all else being equal (which it hasn’t been, of course).

Though interestingly (an unexpectedly to me) we’ve seen that PMM dipole dramatically reverse phase in 2023, which appears related to the implosion of the La Niña base state. Will have to wait and see what the consequences of this are, but it could be the “worm turning” is merely what portion of the seasonal cycle the warmest/coolest anomalies occur.

One thing I’ve noticed even with the Niño strengthening is that our offshore waters remain colder than average, and there is a pretty robust -PDO signature in the Pacific.

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2 minutes ago, Phil said:

The +ENSO correlation to warmth in NW North America, in isolation, is largely limited to winter/spring, so if that would be the statistically favored time of year for worm-turnage.

Though in reality each event is different, and numerous factors play into intradecadal variability. The persistence of the +NPMM/-SPMM dipole over the last decade, for example, has favored a wide+northward Pacific ITSZ/z-cell structure, which has augmented western warmth during boreal summer and autumn, all else being equal (which it hasn’t been, of course).

Though interestingly (an unexpectedly to me) we’ve seen that PMM dipole dramatically reverse phase in 2023, which appears related to the implosion of the La Niña base state. Will have to wait and see what the consequences of this are, but it could be the “worm turning” is merely what portion of the seasonal cycle the warmest/coolest anomalies occur.

Just looking at 2013-2022 and the run of ridiculous summers we had, I have a hard time pinpointing ENSO as one of the major factors. The warmth was pretty consistent regardless of ENSO, even 2019 which people act like was a cool summer, was pretty warm overall. At this point its hard to say what will happen with summer. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Yeah... I was just using Andrew's favorite phrase to say the warm season is approaching.   I am sure it will be pretty nice overall and has to be better than last summer.  

I'll be real here, Tim. The fact we are going to be sitting at 2 months of mega troughing by the time we hit mid-April lends some credence to the idea of worm turnage. Just like by the time we were torching like a wildfire into mid-October it seemed pretty obvious the pattern would flip big time when it did. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I'll be real here, Tim. The fact we are going to be sitting at 2 months of mega troughing by the time we hit mid-April lends some credence to the idea of worm turnage. Just like by the time we were torching like a wildfire into mid-October it seemed pretty obvious the pattern would flip big time when it did. 

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Tuesday still looks like a split region per the 12Z ECMWF with sunshine and low 60s from Olympia northward while its cold and wet to the south.   

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46 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I'm feeling a 2009-10 type enso event. Moderate to strong/one and done. 

1972-73 seems like a solid analog. 

 

I would take what Phil says with a grain of salt, and that's putting it mildly. I still remember his call for a late June 2021 mega trough. 

I’d love a 2009/10 type (modoki) El Niño, but that’s not at all what it looks like to me. Though there’s still time for that to change if the dominoes fall the right way.

The 2nd part of your post is bulls**t, but you already knew that. I’m not great with finicky regional details, but I’ll put my record in predicting ENSO and large scale/seasonal  patterns up against yours any day. ;) 

 

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12 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Closer to home, it is almost a foregone conclusion now that March will end up with a lower mean temp here than January, and very possible we end up colder than December, which is notable as December was slightly below average. 

We will be very close, but very likely end up slightly below March 1951 in terms of mean temp. I also noticed at the Park the coldest average maximum in March was 43.2 from 2009, we will likely end up slightly below that as well. 

We are about to crush the March record for coldest max temp by over 1F. The current record holder is March 1958. 

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Tuesday still looks like a split region per the 12Z ECMWF with sunshine and low 60s from Olympia northward while its cold and wet to the south.   

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Nice rain band right over me there. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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2 minutes ago, Phil said:

I’d love a 2009/10 type (modoki) El Niño, but that’s not at all what it looks like to me. Though there’s still time for that to change if the dominoes fall the right way.

The 2nd part of your post is bulls**t, but you already knew that. I’m not great with finicky regional details, but I’ll put my record in predicting ENSO and large scale/seasonal  patterns up against yours any day. ;) 

 

What are your early analogs? I've seen you mention 1997-98, if I recall that one had a pretty wet spring at least. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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9 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

One thing I’ve noticed even with the Niño strengthening is that our offshore waters remain colder than average, and there is a pretty robust -PDO signature in the Pacific.

Correct, and the opposite is true in the Southern Hemisphere.

Previously, and for many years, it was the North Pacific Meridional Mode that was persistently positive, while the South Pacific Meridional Mode was been persistently negative.

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Wednesday also looks beautiful with wall-to-wall sun and temps getting into the low 60s for most of western WA.   Looks about like was advertised this week.   ECMWF has been running 3-4 degrees too cool on sunny days which seems to just be the norm except for maybe in the dead of winter.  

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3 minutes ago, Phil said:

Correct, and the opposite is true in the Southern Hemisphere.

Previously, and for many years, it was the North Pacific Meridional Mode that was persistently positive, while the South Pacific Meridional Mode was been persistently negative.

I’ll have to warn my friend who lives in Christchurch, New Zealand that it isn’t coming :(

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3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Wednesday also looks beautiful with wall-to-wall sun and temps getting into the low 60s for most of western WA.   Looks about like was advertised this week.   ECMWF has been running 3-4 degrees too cool on sunny days which seems to just be the norm except for maybe in the dead of winter.  

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I think I'm going to hike Mt. Pisgah on Wednesday. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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11 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

What are your early analogs? I've seen you mention 1997-98, if I recall that one had a pretty wet spring at least. 

1997 was more in relation to the intraseasinal component(s) of the transition period.

I’m torn between the canonical/east-based +ENSO mode (like 1997/98) and the “cold phase” +ENSO mode (pre-1976). As of now the system state appears to be trending towards the latter (top-left).

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14 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I'll be real here, Tim. The fact we are going to be sitting at 2 months of mega troughing by the time we hit mid-April lends some credence to the idea of worm turnage. Just like by the time we were torching like a wildfire into mid-October it seemed pretty obvious the pattern would flip big time when it did. 

Yeah, I think the writing is on the wall that at very least this default troughing patterns going to fade away in the next month. Where we go from there is the real question. Could just be a more average-ish pattern for awhile. Even that would be a huge blessing. Compared to past years.

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12Z ECMWF also shows Thursday being sunny and mild across western WA... the runs yesterday showed way more clouds for that day.    

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6 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Yeah, I think the writing is on the wall that at very least this default troughing patterns going to fade away in the next month. Where we go from there is the real question. Could just be a more average-ish pattern for awhile. Even that would be a huge blessing. Compared to past years.

That's what I'm hoping for. Part of me wishes we had a wetter winter, but on the other hand we just didn't waste a lot of time on warm rain and 7000' snow levels. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

He does very well with ENSO stuff... he called for a multi-year Nina period in the early 2020s years before it happened. 

Glad someone recognizes this. 😏 Don’t want to sound boastful but I’m proud of that prediction.

Without question I struggle when it comes to spotting smaller scale/emergent components within larger scale patterns. That stuff arises out of the system’s “red noise”, which is already mischaracterized by our teleconnective indices.

The one exception is my own region, which I can predict down to the smallest detail in my sleep. Haha.

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37 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Just looking at 2013-2022 and the run of ridiculous summers we had, I have a hard time pinpointing ENSO as one of the major factors. The warmth was pretty consistent regardless of ENSO, even 2019 which people act like was a cool summer, was pretty warm overall. At this point its hard to say what will happen with summer. 

I’ve always maintained the Enso connection to our weather in summer is weak at best. 

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Same story on Sunday... low spinning offshore.   And per usual this pattern means the sunniest place is from Seattle to Bellingham. 

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6 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Same story on Sunday... low spinning offshore.   And per usual this pattern means the sunniest place is from Seattle to Bellingham. 

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Looks like mid-40s highs in W. Oregon. That's a good 15 degrees below normal. Very NOICE.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Looks like mid-40s highs in W. Oregon. That's a good 15 degrees below normal. Very NOICE.

Probably low 50s for the Puget Sound area... a bit closer to normal.  

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1 hour ago, Omegaraptor said:

I think Phil said at one point that the easiest way to get a cool summer in the PNW now might actually be via a Nino.

Well that is a state-dependent outcome. The large scale boundary conditions through which any ENSO event emerges are what truly matter, not the ENSO sign/amplitude alone.

For example (and skipping over some details) the lines are actually quite blurred with respect to outcomes in east-based +ENSO and west-based -ENSO, sometimes in their respective emergent phases, sometimes in their decay, both of which can be quasi-static or dynamic.

If linear/1-to-1 predictions were possible, a majority of the weather/climate industry would be out of business.

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21 minutes ago, Phil said:

Glad someone recognizes this. 😏 Don’t want to sound boastful but I’m proud of that prediction.

Without question I struggle when it comes to spotting smaller scale/emergent components within larger scale patterns. That stuff arises out of the system’s “red noise”, which is already mischaracterized by our teleconnective indices.

The one exception is my own region, which I can predict down to the smallest detail in my sleep. Haha.

I remember you predicted the mid-December period of extreme blocking a few weeks in advance. That was amazing to experience in Denver

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12Z ECMWF ends up right where we have been for so long... deep trough over CA with western WA in the quiet no-mans land.   And overall it was another much drier than normal run for SW BC and western WA.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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2 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Given the past decade I am sure we will have plenty of warm weather, but as for the rest of your statement, there is no way to know. Very possible we have only one year of Nino. You probably are unaware, but Nina are more common then Ninos. An informed person would surmise the potential for ENSO neutral years as well, which tend to be exciting wildcards. We have compiled a massive debt of heat and drought and now the bill is coming due. Might be time to activate that escape hatch.

Multiyear niñas are more common than multiyear niños in the post-WWII era. I wouldn’t take it beyond that.

In the 1990s, niños were more common than niñas. And the vast majority of proxy evidence suggests a niño-like base state dominated during the LIA.

And ironically, the MWP (which featured the last multicentury western megadrought) was almost certainly dominated by a niña-like base state. In fact the SSTA/500mb structure over the last several years is likely the same pattern that took place in the MWP (EPAC Niña/large WPAC warm pool, +NPMM, +NAO, broad/poleward z-cells, large 4CH, warm globe). It’s an eerie match.

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We are living through history folks! Greatest snow pack on record for Utah! I would guess we will see significant rises in the GREAT SALT LAKE this spring! 

https://www.ksl.com/article/50606204/utahs-statewide-snowpack-breaks-record-set-40-years-ago

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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12 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z ECMWF ends up right where we have been for so long... deep trough over CA with western WA in the quiet no-mans land.   And overall it was another much drier than normal run for SW BC and western WA.

ecmwf-deterministic-namer-z500_anom-0696000.png

ecmwf-deterministic-namer-precip_6hr_inch-0696000.png

ecmwf-deterministic-namer-qpf_anom_10day-0696000.png

March is going to end up fairly close to normal here. A little cool and dry.  We are currently only running -1.2F and precip is about 1.5” below average. Snowfall is also basically normal. 

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Another partly sunny day here... with no significant precip coming until late Friday.    I wish March had been wetter but this has been a really pleasant month overall here and unusually sunny.  Particularly nice considering there has been reep troughing for most of the month.    It's the been the complete opposite of the persistently rainy situation last spring and much more enjoyable.  At least so far.

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4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Another partly sunny day here... with no significant precip coming until late Friday.    I wish March had been wetter but this has been a really pleasant month overall here and unusually sunny.  Particularly nice considering there has been reep troughing for most of the month.    It's the been the complete opposite of the persistently rainy situation last spring and much more enjoyable.  At least so far.

March was warm and dry here last year. 

Looking at the stats, it looks like we had a mean temp of 44 for the month, so this year will be about 7F cooler. 7.76" of rain, so just slightly below normal, but it definitely was not a wet month. That really got going in April and went through the first 2/3 of June. 

 

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1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Just looking at 2013-2022 and the run of ridiculous summers we had, I have a hard time pinpointing ENSO as one of the major factors. The warmth was pretty consistent regardless of ENSO, even 2019 which people act like was a cool summer, was pretty warm overall. At this point its hard to say what will happen with summer. 

I call summer 2019 average. Looking back, it didn't have a month as cool as July 2016, but it helped not having major heatwaves in the mix. 

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Just now, Timmy Supercell said:

I call summer 2019 average. Looking back, it didn't have a month as cool as July 2016, but it helped not having major heatwaves in the mix. 

I've been scrolling through the summer 2019 threads the past few days and it was a great year for thunderstorms. It's been pretty bad recently for storms. I saw one distant flash of lightning in August 2022 and heard some thunder in September but that's all I remember in the past few years. I think 2008 was a good year for them?

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2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

March was warm and dry here last year. 

Yes... I was comparing it to persistently rainy pattern from late March through early June last year.  Which is why I said at least so far.    I did not enjoy that very troughy period too much... but this has been quite enjoyable and looks to continue.   Devil is in the details as usual.  

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