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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Can't access forum on my computer now... only on phone.   Anyone else have same issue?

Fine for me.

Home Weather Station Stats for 2023

High - Satans Bunghole

Lowest High - Not sure

Low - I don't have the data

Sub 40 highs - Not quite

Sub-freezing highs - Try again

Lows below 25 - You're joking

Lows below 20 - No

2023 Snowfall - LOL

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Does anyone have @Chris contact info? Or maybe tagging him will summon him to the forum so he can read my DM to him :)

Home Weather Station Stats for 2023

High - Satans Bunghole

Lowest High - Not sure

Low - I don't have the data

Sub 40 highs - Not quite

Sub-freezing highs - Try again

Lows below 25 - You're joking

Lows below 20 - No

2023 Snowfall - LOL

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ECMWF is even better than the GFS later next week.    Would be a nice reward after all this troughing but still way too far out to trust.  

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1 minute ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Long range Euro not looking warm and wet :(

Yeah, that 2008 progression is going to be a real buzz kill for some. That's what immediately popped into my head when I saw that map posted above. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Yeah, that 2008 progression is going to be a real buzz kill for some. That's what immediately popped into my head when I saw that map posted above. 

Maybe.   Although 2008 was not a Nino transition year.    Still would be a nice break. 

Looks like a couple people on here have to default to mocking people for looking forward to a possible pattern change but take great offense if anyone mocks them for looking forward to troughing.  😀

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4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Maybe.   Although 2008 was not a Nino transition year.    Still would be a nice break. 

Looks like a couple people on here have to default to mocking people for looking forward to a possible pattern change but take great offense if anyone mocks them for looking forward to troughing.  😀

I'm not super sold on ENSO's impact. If we look at climo the last 10 years then yeah, any week now we will flip to summer until late October. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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10 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Yeah, that 2008 progression is going to be a real buzz kill for some. That's what immediately popped into my head when I saw that map posted above. 

Haha Andrew it’s all like “paging Buzz Killington” lol.

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Honestly... the models are probably being way too aggressive with the ridging next week.  But the odds of something other than deep troughing diving into the west are increasing. 

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3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Honestly... the models are probably being way too aggressive with the ridging next week.  But the odds of something other than deep troughing diving into the west are increasing. 

What’s the average first 70 degree day for Seattle? I know it’s sometime in April.

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1 minute ago, Slushy Inch said:

What’s the average first 70 degree day for Seattle? I know it’s sometime in April.

Looked it up... April 13th.

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At face value the 12z Euro shows every day in the 40s and 50s, then finally a high of 63 for Portland at hour 216. That’s only a couple degrees warmer than their average high for the second week of April. Nothing crazy. I don’t think anyone thought we would see unbroken troughing through the end of June.

Honestly some 70s would be kind of nice as long as we see some variability going forward and don’t just flip from one extreme to another again.

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Sounds like everyone sort of has realistic expectations.    But I guess its more fun to pretend we are all extreme and completely unreasonable.   😄

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22 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

At face value the 12z Euro shows every day in the 40s and 50s, then finally a high of 63 for Portland at hour 216. That’s only a couple degrees warmer than their average high for the second week of April. Nothing crazy. I don’t think anyone thought we would see unbroken troughing through the end of June.

Honestly some 70s would be kind of nice as long as we see some variability going forward and don’t just flip from one extreme to another again.

I'm just worried though that we let in one once of ridging now, and then come September we'll be looking back at four and a half months of uninterrupted torching in retrospect.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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46 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

ECMWF is even better than the GFS later next week.    Would be a nice reward after all this troughing but still way too far out to trust.  

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Doing one more Whistler trip April 5-9. Some Spring ski conditions like this would be nice. Just hope to avoid the rain fest the GFS has been toying with. 

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Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation)

Snow since February 2019: 91"

2023-24: 6"

2022-23: 17.5"

2021-22: 17.75"

2020-21: 14.5”

2019-20: 10.5"

2018-19: 24.75"

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

I'm just worried though that we let in one once of ridging now, and then come September we'll be looking back at four and a half months of uninterrupted torching in retrospect.

Yeah, that’s always the worry these days. 

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5 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

I'm just worried though that we let in one once of ridging now, and then come September we'll be looking back at four and a half months of uninterrupted torching in retrospect.

Based on what Phil is saying about this summer... that probably won't be an issue.

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I just really hope we get measurable snowfall this weekend! Don’t think it has happened in my lifetime where I had measurable snow events for 6 straight months! 

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Looks like April 2008 started cool and then spiked around the 11-12th, and then crashed hard after that. There was some warmer weather late in the month though, a few 60s at Silver Falls. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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4 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Yeah, that’s always the worry these days. 

The good news is we are used to it at this point. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Looks like April 2008 started cool and then spiked around the 11-12th, and then crashed hard after that. There was some warmer weather late in the month though, a few 60s at Silver Falls. 

I have fond memories of that month Andrew. My Dad and brother and I had a great camping trip on the Rogue River near Agness during that warm spell. Hit low to mid 80s down there at the peak. The pattern crashed on the last day of our trip and we were hitting mixed rain and snow snow showers crossing the forest road over to Coquille Falls on the way home. Low 40s and snow on the foothills as we drove I-5 back up the Willamette Valley. Then by the 20th we were in just about the closest thing you’ll see to an arctic airmass in late April.

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52F and partly cloudy. Nice cool day.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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24 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I have fond memories of that month Andrew. My Dad and brother and I had a great camping trip on the Rogue River near Agness during that warm spell. Hit low to mid 80s down there at the peak. The pattern crashed on the last day of our trip and we were hitting mixed rain and snow snow showers crossing the forest road over to Coquille Falls on the way home. Low 40s and snow on the foothills as we drove I-5 back up the Willamette Valley. Then by the 20th we were in just about the closest thing you’ll see to an arctic airmass in late April.

I remember getting ready for a baseball game against COLLEGE OF THE OZARKS, in Bartlesville, Oklahoma and getting a text from my Dad saying he had gotten a solid dusting of snow. It was in the low 80s out there that day and I remember thinking how absurd it was they had just gotten snow in Oregon. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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I am doing some digging around to get ready to make a cold March rankings post at the end of the month. Lots of impressive numbers popping up here and there. Even here in the Portland metro, HIO (one of the least UHI infested stations) is looking to put up a top 10 cold March.

Looking at the Pendleton forecast area, one thing that really stands out to me is how incredibly anomalous and historic March 2019 was over there. Not sure if it’s been talked about much here, but some long running stations beat their coldest March on record by 2-3 degrees that year. This March will end up in the top 5 or 10 at many of those same stations.

 

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52 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

True, we have not grown fat, happy and VULNERABLE from the weather always going our way the last ten years.

None of this true of course.   And there are so many other factors.   This is your typical villianizing.    You do the same thing to Mark Nelsen.   Pretty sad and pathetic.   

Ironically you are the one who appears VULNERABLE based on your lashing out at people over climate change.  😀

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4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I remember getting ready for a baseball game against COLLEGE OF THE OZARKS, in Bartlesville, Oklahoma and getting a text from my Dad saying he had gotten a solid dusting of snow. It was in the low 80s out there that day and I remember thinking how absurd it was they had just gotten snow in Oregon. 

It was absurd Andrew, absurdly BEAUTIFUL.

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1 hour ago, jakerepp said:

Does anyone have @Chris contact info? Or maybe tagging him will summon him to the forum so he can read my DM to him :)

I guess that's a no then :(

I guess his sons HS team is down here playing a double header today pretty close to me. He asked a month ago if I wanted to come watch and I spaced and forgot it was this week. I haven't heard from him to confirm they are still a go for today.

Oh well!

Home Weather Station Stats for 2023

High - Satans Bunghole

Lowest High - Not sure

Low - I don't have the data

Sub 40 highs - Not quite

Sub-freezing highs - Try again

Lows below 25 - You're joking

Lows below 20 - No

2023 Snowfall - LOL

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55 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

True, we have not grown fat, happy and VULNERABLE from the weather always going our way the last ten years.

 

On 3/26/2023 at 2:41 PM, Cascadia_Wx said:

I appreciate you as a member here. You have genuine enthusiasm and interest in the weather and stay away from all the preferences wars, complaining about current or past conditions, and personal stuff between members. Everyone could take a page from your book, myself included.

Take your own advice. 

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1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

None of this true of course.   And there are so many other factors.   This is your typical villianizing.    You do the same thing to Mark Nelsen.   Pretty sad and pathetic.   

Ironically you are the one who appears VULNERABLE based on your lashing out at people over climate change.  😀

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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