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Lots of angst over what will probably be a 2 day warmer than normal event with rain close offshore and then back to troughing.  

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28 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Lots of angst over what will probably be a 2 day warmer than normal event with rain close offshore and then back to troughing.  

No angst actually. Especially with additional blessings showing up in the long range, we will just know it is a short period of discomfort we will have to face together. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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Northern Oregon Cascades-Cascades in Lane County-
Including the cities of Government Camp, Santiam Pass,
McKenzie Pass, and Willamette Pass
356 AM PDT Fri Mar 31 2023

...WINTER STORM WARNING NOW IN EFFECT FROM 8 PM THIS EVENING TO
11 PM PDT SUNDAY ABOVE 1500 FEET...

* WHAT...Heavy snow expected above 1500 feet. Total snow
  accumulations of 1 to 2 feet, except 2 to 4 feet above 3000 feet
  in elevation. Winds gusting as high as 40 mph.

* WHERE...Northern Oregon Cascades and Cascades in Lane County.

* WHEN...From 8 PM this evening to 11 PM PDT Sunday.

* IMPACTS...Travel could be very difficult. Patchy blowing snow
  could significantly reduce visibility. Those with recreation
  plans in the Cascades this weekend should prepare for peak
  winter conditions.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Snow levels will lower from around 3000
  feet to 1000 feet behind a cold front this evening, then snow
  levels will remain unseasonably low through Monday.
  Accumulating snow will be possible for elevations as low as 500
  feet, but the heaviest and most impactful accumulations will
  remain above 1500 feet.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Closer to home. 

Northern Oregon Cascade Foothills-
South Washington Cascade Foothills-
Including the cities of Silver Falls State Park and Ariel
356 AM PDT Fri Mar 31 2023

...WINTER STORM WARNING NOW IN EFFECT FROM 9 PM THIS EVENING TO
11 PM PDT SUNDAY ABOVE 1500 FEET...

* WHAT...Heavy snow expected above 1500 feet. Total snow
  accumulations of 4 to 12 inches, heaviest above 2000 feet.
  Winds gusting as high as 40 mph.

* WHERE...In Oregon, Northern Oregon Cascade Foothills. In
  Washington, South Washington Cascade Foothills.

* WHEN...From 9 PM this evening to 11 PM PDT Sunday.

* IMPACTS...Travel could be very difficult. Patchy blowing snow
  could significantly reduce visibility. Those with recreation
  plans in the Cascades this weekend should prepare for peak
  winter conditions.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Snow levels will lower from around 3000
  feet to 1000 feet behind a cold front this evening, then snow
  levels will remain unseasonably low through Monday.
  Accumulating snow will be possible for elevations as low as 500
  feet, but the heaviest and most impactful accumulations will
  remain above 1500 feet.
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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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14 hours ago, T-Town said:

The view is a relatively new thing for us. This is 2017 in Maple Valley. Six years and two dogs ago. We still enjoyed a frosty beverage in the yard though. 

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We almost got a place over by Chambers Bay golf course….about 3-5 miles north of it (could have been near you from your pictures) with and view of the Sound.  Even put a down payment in but by the next day we both felt like something was off so we pulled out of the deal.  

up early to get another day in the yard before the rains show up later.  Been a fantastic week of getting stuff done outside!!!

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Closing out a HISTORIC March today. Out 2nd warmest low of the month, right at average for the date, 36. Depending on the timing of the cold front we could see a cooler low prior to midnight. As of now we will end the month with an average low of 30.3. If we hit 35 or lower by midnight, it would round us down to 30.2, which would tie for 9th all-time coldest average March low and be the first top 10 month since 1985. As for highs, we will easily be #1 on that list. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Once again the complete Puget Sound centric nature of this forum is showing through with the astonishing apathy towards one of the most anomalously cold west coast months we have seen. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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56 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

Pretty much sums up what the astros did to us last year 

As a yanks fan I hate the Astros more the Redsox. They’re cheating bums, nothing more.

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37 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Once again the complete Puget Sound centric nature of this forum is showing through with the astonishing apathy towards one of the most anomalously cold west coast months we have seen. 

I'm not saying this doesn't agree with your statement, but you may understand why the 36th or 32nd coldest March on record (and one of the driest) may not be super exciting for everyone North of Olympia. The high temperature this past month was actually warmer than average at BLI.

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Bellingham

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Seattle

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Olympia

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Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.0"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 

2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16)

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26 minutes ago, Skagit Weather said:

I'm not saying this doesn't agree with your statement, but you may understand why the 36th or 32nd coldest March on record (and one of the driest) may not be super exciting for everyone North of Olympia. The high temperature this past month was actually warmer than average at BLI.

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Bellingham

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Seattle

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Olympia

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Why I have always advocated for separate threads. I think a lot of Oregonians avoid this forum because they feel it’s a Washington insiders club. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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6 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Why I have always advocated for separate threads. I think a lot of Oregonians avoid this forum because they feel it’s a Washington insiders club. 

I like reading about the weather there and it can vary from location to location. 

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Monday night/Tuesday AM could be the REAL DEAL.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Wow. The ICON is very wet for Thursday/Friday next week. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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49 minutes ago, Skagit Weather said:

I'm not saying this doesn't agree with your statement, but you may understand why the 36th or 32nd coldest March on record (and one of the driest) may not be super exciting for everyone North of Olympia. The high temperature this past month was actually warmer than average at BLI.

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Bellingham

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Seattle

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Olympia

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Funny when Tim's area had like its 30th wettest April/May on record it's all we heard about because of the # of days with rain. LOL

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Friday and Saturday next week are rather MOIST on the GEM. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Prayers up for the mid-west and south today. 

When you see this type of wording...it's going to get real.

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   addition, large to very large hail will be possible with storms
   given cold temps aloft and strong vertical shear. Given the
   significant threat for strong/long-track tornadoes,

 

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5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Funny when Tim's area had like its 30th wettest April/May on record it's all we heard about because of the # of days with rain. LOL

Yes.   And when you have had an incredibly snowy and cold March then that is all you have been talking about.   We all talk about our local weather.   It's a beautiful tapestry Andrew!

Side note... the late March through mid June period last year was the most persistently rainy such period in the 130 year history of the Cedar Falls station.    Justin verified this for me.    It rained almost every day in that period beating out 1984 for most days with rain.

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57 minutes ago, Skagit Weather said:

I'm not saying this doesn't agree with your statement, but you may understand why the 36th or 32nd coldest March on record (and one of the driest) may not be super exciting for everyone North of Olympia. The high temperature this past month was actually warmer than average at BLI.

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Bellingham

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Seattle

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Olympia

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It was a pretty historic month across most of the west, especially in California, Nevada, and the southern half of Oregon.

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Yes.   And when you have had an incredibly snowy and cold March then that is all you have been talking about.   We all talk about our local weather.   It's a beautiful tapestry Andrew!

Side note... the late March through mid June period last year was the most persistently rainy such period in the 130 year history of the Cedar Falls station.    Justin verified this for me.    It rained almost every day in that period beating out 1984 for most days with rain.

Which is great, but in terms of actual rainfall amounts and cold, last April/May was more anomalous down this way. It is what it is. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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33 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Why I have always advocated for separate threads. I think a lot of Oregonians avoid this forum because they feel it’s a Washington insiders club. 

I think it would work if all the Oregonian members lived in the mountains with you.  

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5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Which is great, but in terms of actual rainfall amounts and cold, last April/May was more anomalous down this way. It is what it is. 

Yep.   It is what it is.   In terms of tangible weather the persistence of the rain was pretty notable up here.  I never made any other claims.   And of course it was subsequently offset by an even more extreme extended dry period.   

This spring appears to be taking a much different path.  Hopefully it is a less extreme year overall.   Last year was far from ideal in that regard.  

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16 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Friday and Saturday next week are rather MOIST on the GEM. 

But it did back off quite a bit from it's 00Z run so I am not sure if there will actually be much rain those days.   If I had my way... there would be heavy rain on Friday followed by a warm and sunny weekend.  A vegetation explosion would ensue.   😀

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