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3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Am I being selfish in hoping that just one of these chances delivers something to MBY?  Just ridiculous how nothing seems to work out here with this cold snap.

No your just being a normal person.  We all get jealous and selfish with snow.  

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Even after day 10 the jet is still suppressed on this GFS run.  This pattern we're in is almost a taste of the 1950s.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Just now, RentonHill said:

Looks like a foot a new snow in twisp. Lost all meltage progress. Still coming down too. That upslope packs a real punch. 

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Wow! My cabin hasn't had much new over the last few weeks. I haven't been up in 6 weeks because of my fukinn business. 

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1 minute ago, RentonHill said:

Looks like a foot a new snow in twisp. Lost all meltage progress. Still coming down too. That upslope packs a real punch. 

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Pretty nice scene for March over there.  Normally late season stuff doesn't do too well in Central WA.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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8 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Am I being selfish in hoping that just one of these chances delivers something to MBY?  Just ridiculous how nothing seems to work out here with this cold snap.

Patterns that favor the Hood Canal are rarely good for the other side of the Sound.  And even less so at this time of year without a supply of cold air coming through the passes.

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Just now, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

It would of been nice if this pattern came in January. 

Seemingly an impossible task in this current period.  Just can't wrap my head around why that's the case.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Patterns that favor the Hood Canal are rarely good for the other side of the Sound.  And even less so at this time of year without a supply of cold air coming through the passes.

Yeah...the problem has been all of the surface lows have remained off the coast.  There is a chance with that deformation band tonight, but it's iffy.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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12 hours ago, VancouverIslandSouth said:

I've been here since 2004 and I still haven't got used to it. The Olympic rain/snow shadow is the bane of my existence and Victoria is only on the peripheral. I can't imagine how it would be living in the epicenter.

No. 2006: Rain Shadow

Not fully sure what I am looking at here, but I am right on the 30 line.

PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220

2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events)

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8 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Beautiful morning here too.

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Meanwhile…

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1 minute ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

TONGA

Might have had some effect on this winter, but obviously not the answer to the ongoing January problem.

The amount of cold weather this season has been pretty exceptional for this century.  3 notable cold periods up here late Nov to present and a lot more fairly chilly weather on top of that.

In Whatcom County, Clearbrook has had 4 months average below 40 this season for the first time since 1978-79.  At SEA the current run of cold ranks number 5 for the Feb 20 to Mar 4 period.  Impressive stuff!

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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6 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Not fully sure what I am looking at here, but I am right on the 30 line.

Inches of precip per year.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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18 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Did the guy ever report back with a total up at lake cushman? Last he did there was 8.5 new and it's snowed a bunch since then.

How much did you get?

PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220

2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events)

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3 minutes ago, RentonHill said:

I was going to say I think this is the first March snowstorm in at least a few years up there

Yup...once we get into the part of the year where onshore flow becomes more dominant it's a lot harder to get notable snow over there.  The East Slopes rely so much on the upsloping caused by offshore flow.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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16 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Am I being selfish in hoping that just one of these chances delivers something to MBY?  Just ridiculous how nothing seems to work out here with this cold snap.

It’s a fair request. You love snow. 
 

Despite multiple dustings and getting 2-3 inches one night several weeks ago this entire pattern has been frustrating. Felt like this could have been historic. Perhaps next time. 

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10 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

TONGA

Can't wait to see what the research studies show about Tonga and its effects on this winter. Every long range forecast showed below normal rain and snowfall for California. Now we're smashing records but the odd part is we have had no melt periods from early Nov through now which is extraordinary. 

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5 minutes ago, AlTahoe said:

coldest and snowiest winter till this point since 1951-1952 here. 

That was a cold and rather dry winter up here.  1952 was also a bad drought year here.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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2 minutes ago, SnowWillarrive said:

It’s a fair request. You love snow. 
 

Despite multiple dustings and getting 2-3 inches one night several weeks ago this entire pattern has been frustrating. Felt like this could have been historic. Perhaps next time. 

My only problem with this winter is the lack of snow with the current cold snap.  The stuff earlier in the winter was decent with snow on the ground on a number of days.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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3 minutes ago, AlTahoe said:

Can't wait to see what the research studies show about Tonga and its effects on this winter. Every long range forecast showed below normal rain and snowfall for California. Now we're smashing records but the odd part is we have had no melt periods from early Nov through now which is extraordinary. 

Still no signs of it exacerbating global warming like some had feared.  The current season has been cooler globally than the previous one.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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GEFS is trending colder in the Mar 11 to 13 period now.  It doesn't want to end.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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35 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Am I being selfish in hoping that just one of these chances delivers something to MBY?  Just ridiculous how nothing seems to work out here with this cold snap.

I have at this point resigned myself to the fact that this March, like every March in the lowlands IMBY (wherever that backyard has happened to be), will have a fleeting dusting of snow at very best (and probably not even that). At least the rest of the winter makes up for it.

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Trees shedding snow as the sun breaks out. Still flurrying though. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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3 minutes ago, MossMan said:

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It starts to fall again later in the month.  The EPS agrees with this.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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16 minutes ago, SnowWillarrive said:

It’s a fair request. You love snow. 
 

Despite multiple dustings and getting 2-3 inches one night several weeks ago this entire pattern has been frustrating. Felt like this could have been historic. Perhaps next time. 

Could have been a true Alpine Experience.

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3 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

I have at this point resigned myself to the fact that this March, like every March in the lowlands IMBY (wherever that backyard has happened to be), will have a fleeting dusting of snow at very best (and probably not even that). At least the rest of the winter makes up for it.

You had a truly great winter though.  Down here it was decent, but could have been better on snowfall.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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12 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Still no signs of it exacerbating global warming like some had feared.  The current season has been cooler globally than the previous one.

Not sure if “feared” is the right word, at least for the main person here pushing that narrative.

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3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

You had a truly great winter though.  Down here it was decent, but could have been better on snowfall.

As I said, the rest of the winter makes up for it. Would have been a cherry on top to add March to every month since November as having measurable snow, but odds are strongly against it.

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