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[Iceresistance]

This is EXACTLY what I afraid of when he first invaded Ukraine, it's only the first step!

 

“Putin’s Bigger Plans” – Russia’s New General Allegedly Hints at Invading Eastern Europe, Promising That the War ‘Will Not Stop Here’ (msn.com)

[Andie]

Yup.  

[Rubus Leucodermis]

7 hours ago, Iceresistance said:

This is EXACTLY what I afraid of when he first invaded Ukraine, it's only the first step!

“Putin’s Bigger Plans” – Russia’s New General Allegedly Hints at Invading Eastern Europe, Promising That the War ‘Will Not Stop Here’ (msn.com)

Blowing smoke.

Putin already bit off waaaaaay more than he could chew with his Ukraine fiasco.

Odds are he will be slinking out of Ukraine in defeat by about 2027.

 

[roadtonowhere08]

Let's play "Spot the Death Announcement of Dianne Feinstein" on CNN:

 

 

Regardless of what one thinks of her, that's a hell of a slight.

[Andie]

CNN is run by a bunch of noobs that have no sense of history, contribution or courage.   
I did not agree with her a lot but her service was performed with real grace.  Any person that devotes their entire life to service deserves dignity deserves respect.  

This only serves to prove the point that this coming generation in news and politics have a serious deficit when it comes to the dignity of long life, courage through illness, and real service.  
They’re little better than undeserving spoiled children. Pearls before swine.  

[SnarkyGoblin]

I think I figured out where MML is going to live next!

The MAGAmerican dream lives in Sarasota

https://wapo.st/3LIP4nY

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“Physically, there’s not a whole lot to the Hollow,” Mellor says. “It’s more about what it represents.”

What it represents is distrust of mainstream institutions — and the initiative some skeptics are taking to create institutions of their own.

Besides the Hollow, Mellor has built a health-care facility called We the People Health & Wellness Center, to serve people who, like Mellor, distrust the medical establishment. It employs a small team of medical professionals who offer pretty much the same services as any other primary-care facility, with one key distinction: “We’re not gonna push the vaccine — ain’t gonna happen,” Mellor says. In lieu of accepting insurance, the clinic operates on a membership model that “allows people the dignity of freely making their own health care decisions without 3rd party interference,” according to the clinic’s brochure. Clients can receive “nutraceuticals,” intravenous concoctions like the “Immunity Blend” (zinc chloride, vitamin C, and a B-complex blend). They can also get ivermectin, the anti-parasite medication that some vaccine skeptics embraced as a treatment for covid-19. (The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has not approved it for that use.)

 

[SnarkyGoblin]

This is pathetic.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

38 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

This is pathetic.

This is why both-sides-ism is just plain stupid.

The Democrats are far from perfect, but to portray both sides as equally flawed is patently dishonest.

[Anti Marine Layer]

1 hour ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

This is pathetic.

Ok, it is embarrassing, but if Democrats favored equal justice under the law:

1. They would not prefer equity over equality
2. They would not be in favor of keeping affirmative action, when most of the country is against it
3. They would not make it big news when a white person shoots a black person, but hardly make it known when a black person shoots a white person
4. They would be against CRT as much as the Republicans, which according to its own authors: "questions the very foundations of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism, and neutral principles of constitutional law."

[Rubus Leucodermis]

10 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

Ok, it is embarrassing, but if Democrats favored equal justice under the law:

1. They would not prefer equity over equality
2. They would not be in favor of keeping affirmative action, when most of the country is against it
3. They would not make it big news when a white person shoots a black person, but hardly make it known when a black person shoots a white person
4. They would be against CRT as much as the Republicans, which according to its own authors: "questions the very foundations of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism, and neutral principles of constitutional law."

If Republicans really wanted equality, they would oppose the electoral college and be big activists against legacy admissions in the Ivies.

They have zero problem with preferential treatment so long as their team is receiving the preference.

(Now watch MML move the goal posts… again.)

[Anti Marine Layer]

If Blacks want to keep themselves in minority status, they can keep performing the highest percentage of abortions out of any ethnic group.

[Anti Marine Layer]

37 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

If Republicans really wanted equality, they would oppose the electoral college and be big activists against legacy admissions in the Ivies.

They have zero problem with preferential treatment so long as their team is receiving the preference.

(Now watch MML move the goal posts… again.)

The Founding Fathers foresaw the future that people living in the big cities would be educated or brainwashed into voting Democrat, despite homeless people pooping in the streets and dropping drug needles all over the place (paid for by government handouts), and they didn't want the big cities to dominate the country, since big city people are pressured to vote Democrat by other big city people in order to fit in with the mob.

That's why they made the Electoral College. 

Also the Democrats would like the Electoral College if their side won the electoral vote, but not the popular vote.

[Anti Marine Layer]

Electoral College opponents should also oppose the World Series where a team than gets more runs overall can still lose the series.

Also the Electoral College is not a real college, much like PragerU is not a real university. 

[SnarkyGoblin]

1 hour ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

If Blacks want to keep themselves in minority status, they can keep performing the highest percentage of abortions out of any ethnic group.

WTF?  You are more insane than usual with your posts today.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

2 hours ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

The Founding Fathers foresaw the future that people living in the big cities would be educated or brainwashed into voting Democrat, despite homeless people pooping in the streets and dropping drug needles all over the place (paid for by government handouts), and they didn't want the big cities to dominate the country, since big city people are pressured to vote Democrat by other big city people in order to fit in with the mob.

That's why they made the Electoral College. 

Also the Democrats would like the Electoral College if their side won the electoral vote, but not the popular vote.

Thanks for proving my point.

[Iceresistance]

Who was saying that the Government will shut down??
 

Congress averts government shutdown in stunning twist, passing deal with bipartisan support (msn.com)

[Anti Marine Layer]

7 hours ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

WTF?  You are more insane than usual with your posts today.

Franks: High abortion rate strikes blow at Black community

Had I learned of Sanger’s own words when I was an elected official, I would have never allowed myself to be associated with any group she led. She wrote: “Birth control itself, often denounced as a violation of natural law, is nothing more or less that the facilitation of the process of weeding out the unfit of preventing the birth of defectives or of those who will become defectives.”

In 1932 she wrote about the “Nëgro problem” in America in a letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble: “We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Nëgro population.” She feared the perception that her efforts could be interpreted as being harmful to a certain part of the Black community. She referenced working through Black leaders to accomplish her birth control mission, especially Black ministers.

[Anti Marine Layer]

5 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Thanks for proving my point.

Did you move to Canada because of Trump?

[Andie]

9 hours ago, Iceresistance said:

Who was saying that the Government will shut down??
 

Congress averts government shutdown in stunning twist, passing deal with bipartisan support (msn.com)

Remedies Kids, there's always enough of your money to give to the Ukraine and their military but not enough to avoid a government shutdown to be able to pay our military. 

[Anti Marine Layer]

19 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Thanks for proving my point.

It's called peer pressure, mob mentality, tyranny of the majority, social engineering or vote manipulation. That's what the Founding Fathers wanted to avoid. 

 

[Iceresistance]

30 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

It's called peer pressure, mob mentality, tyranny of the majority, social engineering or vote manipulation. That's what the Founding Fathers wanted to avoid. 

 

Also factor bullying

[SnarkyGoblin]

3 hours ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

It's called peer pressure, mob mentality, tyranny of the majority, social engineering or vote manipulation. That's what the Founding Fathers wanted to avoid. 

 

1. Who the f*ck cares what a bunch of white racists wanted 250 years ago? 

2. Amendments were created with the acknowledgement that what they thought then might not be true later.

3.) If you're going to constantly claim you have the founding fathers on your side to back up your bigotry, do the decency of quoting who you're talking about.

[roadtonowhere08]

9 hours ago, Andie said:

Remedies Kids, there's always enough of your money to give to the Ukraine and their military but not enough to avoid a government shutdown to be able to pay our military. 

The military budget is bloated enough.  We'd rather build another batch of useless F-35s or maintain our never going to be used nuclear arsenal than pay our service members what they deserve.

[Anti Marine Layer]

8 hours ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

1. Who the f*ck cares what a bunch of white racists wanted 250 years ago? 

2. Amendments were created with the acknowledgement that what they thought then might not be true later.

3.) If you're going to constantly claim you have the founding fathers on your side to back up your bigotry, do the decency of quoting who you're talking about.

You must be in especially a bad mood today. 

1. They were imperfect human beings, but their goal was to eventually abolish slavery. That's why they wrote "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Slavery started to be abolished with the northern states by 1808. It was practiced by pretty much every culture in history. Christian ideas led to its abolition, although it took a lot longer than it should have.

Some of the Founding Fathers were slaveowners, but it does not necessarily mean they mistreated them as badly as the cruelest masters did. 

2. The U.S. Constitution does allow for amendments, of course. However the U.S. Constitution is also one of the longest surviving constitutions in world history. Many countries have had to totally rewrite their constitutions. Yet, today passing out the U.S. Constitution is discouraged or even prohibited on college campuses because they are taught to believe America is the most racist nation on Earth and that the Constitution was a simply manual for slavery. Some people even call it "trash".

20 years ago, most people respected the Founding Fathers and were proud to live in America. People risked their lives to come here through many decades in the name of freedom. Even Obama made positive comments about the Founding Fathers at one point, but today that's no longer politically correct as it will cause depression for some college educated snowflakes who have been brainwashed by the radical left to think America is evil.

3. I have quoted them enough times, but here's another one from James Madison: 

"[In a direct democracy], [a] common passion or interest will, in almost every case, be felt by a majority of the whole; a communication and concert results from the form of government itself; and there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party or an obnoxious individual. Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths"

They did not want a direct democracy, but a constitutional republic.

You're still free to hate the Founding Fathers if you'd like though. They were imperfect people like all of us and they realized that humans were not generally good. Today the radical left believes humans are generally good, despite all the racism that still exists, and blame these things not primarily on human nature, but on other external factors, such as capitalism. They believe that if we transform the economy in just the right way, racism and evil will disappear, everyone will get along, all problems will go away and we will have a utopia.

So people can knock down statues of George Washington and even Abraham Lincoln, burn down cities and cause billions of dollars of damage to businesses all in the name of "equity" and ending systemic racism. At the same time they can preserve the statues of Joseph Stalin.

Systems are run by people. People are sinful. One of these sins includes racism. Therefore any system run by humans will continue to have some amount of racism, as long as imperfect people are in control of it. 

Today it seems many people think it's crueler to make women or "birthing persons" suffer through an unwanted pregnancy than for people to be thrown in prison for hate speech or their religious beliefs. That's why LeBron James thinks China is a better place than America, and college students post "Are you a communist?" posters on campus.

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

Best one I could find so far.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

On 9/30/2023 at 11:40 AM, SnarkyGoblin said:

WTF?  You are more insane than usual with your posts today.

Many Black folks believe abortion is pushed in their community in order to limit their numbers. The number Anti Marine Layer quoted is accurate, whether or not you agree with his interpretation. Margaret Sanger was a racist and eugenicist who wanted to "control" the Black population, though there has been an attempt in recent years to white wash these facts. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

There is a reason the Democrats LOVE Ukraine so much.

[roadtonowhere08]

On 9/30/2023 at 7:20 AM, Andie said:

CNN is run by a bunch of noobs that have no sense of history, contribution or courage.   
I did not agree with her a lot but her service was performed with real grace.  Any person that devotes their entire life to service deserves dignity deserves respect.  

This only serves to prove the point that this coming generation in news and politics have a serious deficit when it comes to the dignity of long life, courage through illness, and real service.  
They’re little better than undeserving spoiled children. Pearls before swine.  

Completely agree.  Well said.

[Andie]

7 hours ago, roadtonowhere08 said:

The military budget is bloated enough.  We'd rather build another batch of useless F-35s or maintain our never going to be used nuclear arsenal than pay our service members what they deserve.

I’d be thrilled if they’d just guard our sovereignty the way they defend Ukraines.  

[SilverFallsAndrew]

16 minutes ago, Andie said:

I’d be thrilled if they’d just guard our sovereignty the way they defend Ukraines.  

Great point! Imagine if we spent the 110B we've given to Ukraine on defending our own border and addressing income inequality in our own country. What's going on with Ukraine is absolutely SICK.

[roadtonowhere08]

21 minutes ago, Andie said:

I’d be thrilled if they’d just guard our sovereignty the way they defend Ukraines.  

Both sides benefit from the status quo.

The left are naturally softer on border protections due to their ideology and are banking on more votes due to historical demographic voting tendencies.

The right gets cheap labor and something to rile up their base up with.

[Iceresistance]

We should spend equal amounts to defend the border and Ukraine

 

May increase inflation, but what do you expect? Spending is survival for war in terms of logistics.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

[Andie]

9 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Great point! Imagine if we spent the 110B we've given to Ukraine on defending our own border and addressing income inequality in our own country. What's going on with Ukraine is absolutely SICK.

Can you imagine the security measures with that money?! Both N & S borders, and ports  

We could have both physical and electronic that would be second to none.
This is about more than cheap labor. This is about changing the electorate.  They believe all these people will vote Democrat.  But many Hispanics I know down here are Conservative as it aligns with their faith.   

[Andie]

8 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

What we now call the “Good ol Days”!

[SnarkyGoblin]

10 hours ago, Andie said:

I’d be thrilled if they’d just guard our sovereignty the way they defend Ukraines.  

I'm all for spending more federal money to help those border states deal with the situation.  Maybe our many billionaires who made all that money off the backs of immigrants can fund it.

[Andie]

All other nations, friendly and not friendly, have enforced borders.    
I want to know who the f*** made the decision to leave our entire border, N,S, E, &W, wide freakin’ open?  Clearly we have a delusional administration when they say “the border is secure.”   
“Secure”. Right. Come the hell down here and watch the work of the coyotes, the cartel, and waves of humanity and fentanyl crossing the Rio.  

Every nation deserves a sovereign border.  WTF happened here?  
Who made the decision and why does the federal government turn a blind, and very foolish, eye.  
Dare I mention there are plenty of enemies and spies in this bunch?  
They aren’t all innocent freedom seekers.  
What will be the fallout?  

[Rubus Leucodermis]

3 hours ago, Andie said:

All other nations, friendly and not friendly, have enforced borders.    
I want to know who the f*** made the decision to leave our entire border, N,S, E, &W, wide freakin’ open?  Clearly we have a delusional administration when they say “the border is secure.”   
“Secure”. Right. Come the hell down here and watch the work of the coyotes, the cartel, and waves of humanity and fentanyl crossing the Rio.  

Every nation deserves a sovereign border.  WTF happened here?  
Who made the decision and why does the federal government turn a blind, and very foolish, eye.  
Dare I mention there are plenty of enemies and spies in this bunch?  
They aren’t all innocent freedom seekers.  
What will be the fallout?  

(1) The borders are not “wide open.” It is illegal to cross except at approved checkpoints. People are routinely apprehended for disregarding them. Perhaps the enforcement is not so draconian as you might wish, but that does not make them wide open.

(2) Not all nations have “enforced borders;” some of them actually are wide-open. Feed “Schengen area” into your search engine of choice some time.

[Iceresistance]

1 hour ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

(1) The borders are not “wide open.” It is illegal to cross except at approved checkpoints. People are routinely apprehended for disregarding them. Perhaps the enforcement is not so draconian as you might wish, but that does not make them wide open.

(2) Not all nations have “enforced borders;” some of them actually are wide-open. Feed “Schengen area” into your search engine of choice some time.

(1) It IS wide open compared to the previous POTUS

(2) Some nations don't need one because they have very peaceful neighbors

[Andie]

I’m sorry but they are crossing anywhere they can.  Approved checkpoints are for people with papers and news outlets.  
On the Arizona border where I have family (in US & Mx) they cross where ever they can. 
My family in Tucson sees this problem every day.  Tucson used to be very safe but southern Tucson is seeing some issues in the desert. My family is there.  
Texas is no different. There are approved checkpoints and cartel pathways.  There are few rules there.  

[Rubus Leucodermis]

24 minutes ago, Andie said:

I’m sorry but they are crossing anywhere they can.  Approved checkpoints are for people with papers and news outlets.  
On the Arizona border where I have family (in US & Mx) they cross where ever they can. 
My family in Tucson sees this problem every day.  Tucson used to be very safe but southern Tucson is seeing some issues in the desert. My family is there.  
Texas is no different. There are approved checkpoints and cartel pathways.  There are few rules there.  

Here is the list of US cities and their crime rates. Sort by total violent crimes, and here's the top five safest cities over half a million population (lowest violent crime rates overall):

1. Honolulu
2. San Diego
3. El Paso
4. San Jose
5. Austin

Four of the five are in states that border Mexico, and two of them are RIGHT ON the border!

The border area is NOT anomalously unsafe.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

[Iceresistance]

1 hour ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Here is the list of US cities and their crime rates. Sort by total violent crimes, and here's the top five safest cities over half a million population (lowest violent crime rates overall):

1. Honolulu
2. San Diego
3. El Paso
4. San Jose
5. Austin

Four of the five are in states that border Mexico, and two of them are RIGHT ON the border!

The border area is NOT anomalously unsafe.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

Except this was from 2019! During the Trump POTUS!

Look at the year before you post something like this!

[Iceresistance]

Another massive hypocrisy and double standard

 

White House ignores reporter pointing out there is 'no seat' for a disabled journalist as Biden celebrates ADA (msn.com)

[Andie]

4 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Here is the list of US cities and their crime rates. Sort by total violent crimes, and here's the top five safest cities over half a million population (lowest violent crime rates overall):

1. Honolulu
2. San Diego
3. El Paso
4. San Jose
5. Austin

Four of the five are in states that border Mexico, and two of them are RIGHT ON the border!

The border area is NOT anomalously unsafe.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

The crime, drug mules, migrants cross  through the desert/ranches. Happens away from large metros. Ranchers have a hard time with water pipes/faucets left to run out on ranch land or are broken, homes, barns, and sheds are broken into, occasionally cows/calves slaughtered.  
It’s not the picnic the news folks might portray.  Many seek city/ state shelters but not all as quite a few have criminal records.  It’s a cross section.  

[Rubus Leucodermis]

2 hours ago, Iceresistance said:

Except this was from 2019! During the Trump POTUS!

Look at the year before you post something like this!

Why? Do you have any actual hard evidence crime has skyrocketed in those cities and they are now no longer among the safest?

[Iceresistance]

7 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Why? Do you have any actual hard evidence crime has skyrocketed in those cities and they are now no longer among the safest?

Yes, this list came out last year.

100 Safest Cities in the US | SafeWise

[hawkstwelve]

Latest national poll shows Haley pretty much dead-even with DeSantis. Still a ways behind Trump, obviously. Everyone else barely reached 5%. 

Time to thin the field.

https://insideradvantage.com/new-ia-poll-trump-leads-by-35-following-debate-desantis-and-haley-statistically-tied-for-second-in-gop-presidential-contest/

[Rubus Leucodermis]

2 hours ago, Iceresistance said:

Yes, this list came out last year.

100 Safest Cities in the US | SafeWise

Apples and oranges. I was listing the safest big cities (where I defined big as over half a million in population).

[Iceresistance]

5 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Apples and oranges. I was listing the safest big cities (where I defined big as over half a million in population).

https://www.safewise.com/blog/safest-metro-cities

Also in 2022

[SnarkyGoblin]

On 10/1/2023 at 9:07 PM, SilverFallsAndrew said:

"Low information voter"