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[SnarkyGoblin]

4 minutes ago, Iceresistance said:

Being a homeschooler myself, I loved it! Helped me with the years that I could not be at school, that was back in 2014-2017.

that explains things.

are you living on campus at college?

[SnarkyGoblin]

14 minutes ago, Sparky said:

Home school your children and they'll probably be smarter and better off in the long run. Especially if they have a teachers with rainbow hair making videos on TikTok! Homeschooling is actually becoming pretty popular. 

Based on my wife's experience with kids who are homeschooled (she's a public grade school teacher), some of the of the students who initially get homeschooled end up in public schools and they are in bad shape with their education relative to the general student population.

I'm sure there are capable parents able to teach their kids properly, but I would say it's an exception not the rule.

[Stormy]

20 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Based on my wife's experience with kids who are homeschooled (she's a public grade school teacher), some of the of the students who initially get homeschooled end up in public schools and they are in bad shape with their education relative to the general student population.

I'm sure there are capable parents able to teach their kids properly, but I would say it's an exception not the rule.

Maybe part of the reason those are in worse shape is because parents didn't have time to teach them properly or those students had learning difficulties to start with so they decided differently, or who knows. 

[Andie]

Switching dominant hand forces a child to retrain their dominant hand and Lefties are Right brain dominant.  Switching forced me to retrain against my wiring and in my humble opinion, it messed things up.  
As I’ve grown older I find it interfering  with my left/right brain working smoothly. So there are glitches as they say.  As an artist I’m sure it affected my creativity.  
As an engineer it helped. 
Maddening!.  

[Andie]

On another subject France is rioting over raising their retirement age from 62.  Everyone else in Europe and USA are higher.   
Mon Dieu !!!

[SnarkyGoblin]

5 hours ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Hmm.

So am I making assumptions about people on the left that are a little too extreme? Yes, maybe a little more than I should. 

But his post that parents are torturing their children by teaching traditional values and spanking them sometimes is a bit extreme. I survived lots of spankings as a child without any emotional damage. Whatever happened to "Spare the rod, spoil the child"?

And CRT, the religion of the radical left, is full of strawman arguments like "All conservatives are racist" or "All white people are racist"

Maybe schools should stop teaching any philosophical values, conservative or liberal, and go back to simple reading, writing and arithmetic. That way no one is forcing their beliefs on anyone else. 

You are always creating arguments that literally no one is saying except in the bowels of your internet history. 

Even this response is full of strawman.  What person actually teaching CRT properly has ever said that "all conservatives are racist"? And even if you can find one, the VAST MAJORITY of people who support the concepts of critical race theory don't think that every conservative is racist. You make stuff up, with zero sources, to present the other side as insane.

it's becoming unbearable.

[SnarkyGoblin]

28 minutes ago, Andie said:

On another subject France is rioting over raising their retirement age from 62.  Everyone else in Europe and USA are higher.   
Mon Dieu !!!

The French love to not work 

Pretty reasonable what Macron is trying to do. 

[roadtonowhere08]

2 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

The French love to not work 

Pretty reasonable what Macron is trying to do. 

Sounds like you never been there.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

10 hours ago, Iceresistance said:

Yeah, I saw a poll that over 60% of Republicans what Trump to run 2024.

That is consistent with what most polls show.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

39 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

The French love to not work 

Pretty reasonable what Macron is trying to do. 

All deviations from any norm are incorrect.

[roadtonowhere08]

Time to rile up the yokels:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/03/21/trump-rally-waco-texas-history-raid-on-branch-davidian-compound/11510179002/

"Former President Donald Trump – launching his bid to return to the White House even as he rallies supporters to protest against an arrest he claims is impending –  chose an auspicious location for one of his earliest rallies for the 2024 election: the city of Waco, Texas. 

The rally, planned for Saturday, will fall during the 30th anniversary of the siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco. Federal agents, aiming to arrest cult leader David Koresh, surrounded his walled compound in an armed standoff that lasted more than a month. It ended in a botched raid that left 76 people, including 25 children, dead."

[SnarkyGoblin]

39 minutes ago, roadtonowhere08 said:

Sounds like you never been there.

I have most of my family over there.  Probably been there a dozen times in my life 

One random thing that struck me when I was younger was how the cashiers in supermarkets all sit while working.

With all the mandatory vacation time they get, they should be fine to add anothe 2 years.  My uncle told me before be retired from Air France that by end of his career, he was off more days than on if you included weekends.

[Anti Marine Layer]

1 hour ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

You are always creating arguments that literally no one is saying except in the bowels of your internet history. 

Even this response is full of strawman.  What person actually teaching CRT properly has ever said that "all conservatives are racist"? And even if you can find one, the VAST MAJORITY of people who support the concepts of critical race theory don't think that every conservative is racist. You make stuff up, with zero sources, to present the other side as insane.

it's becoming unbearable.

I've shown my sources before. One is Robin DiAngelo

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I would define racism as, “Feelings / attitudes of dislike or hatred towards a particular group of people based on their ethnicity / skin color.” I think most people mean something similar to that when they use the terms “racism” or “racist.” I have noticed, though, that another definition of racism is increasingly being used in the Black Lives Matter, and similar, movements. In her 2018 book White Fragility, Robin DiAngelo defines racism as, “a deeply embedded historical system of institutional power.” (page 24)

According to DiAngelo, a racist is someone who participates, even unknowingly, in the deeply embedded historical system of institutional power.

https://www.gotquestions.blog/definition-of-racism.html

But that's one of those unreliable right-wing sites, so maybe something like All Sides is more reliable

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Liberals hold the perspective that many fundamental societal structures are built on systemic racism, meaning some groups have more power than others.

From this perspective, liberals define racism as linked to power and often hold the view that disadvantaged groups cannot be racist toward groups that have power. Conservatives generally disagree with that. For example, they would argue that views about another race's inferiority coming from one racial group toward another can be labeled as "racist" whether or not the targeted race is the majority or the minority in that country.

 

https://www.allsides.com/translator/racism-racist

So they basically believe that if you don't do everything you can to fight against the current system, you are a racist.

Thomas Sowell  - "The word racism is like ketchup. It can be put on practically anything and demanding evidence makes you a 'racist.'"

And today some schools are separating white and black students into groups and telling the white people that they are oppressors and the black students that they are victims of a system that is rigged against them and does not want them to succeed, or basing their curriculum on things such as the 1619 Project, which even many liberal scholars have refuted.

But maybe it's just time I keep silent about it and resist the temptation to post things here, as no one's minds will be changed anyway, and I'm just probably doing the opposite of that.

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

One last annoyance

Eight Big Reasons Critical Race Theory Is Terrible for Dealing with Racism

Seriously, I don't know any reason why anyone would go through the trouble to make all this stuff up if it's not really true.

[SnarkyGoblin]

23 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

One last annoyance

Eight Big Reasons Critical Race Theory Is Terrible for Dealing with Racism

Seriously, I don't know any reason why anyone would go through the trouble to make all this stuff up if it's not really true.

Lol! Seriously?  Ignoring the basic facts of eyeballs =$$ and an article like that plays right into the same narrative that haif the country wants to immerse itself in, you can't think of any other reason of someone making sh*t whose wikipedia article starts with this paragraph?

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James Stephen Lindsay (born June 8, 1979[1]), known professionally as James A. Lindsay,[2] is an American author, cultural critic, mathematician and conspiracy theorist.[3][4] He is known for the grievance studies affair, in which he, Peter Boghossian and Helen Pluckrose submitted hoax articles to academic journals in 2017 and 2018. Lindsay has written several books including Cynical Theories (2020), which he co-authored with Pluckrose.

 

[roadtonowhere08]

2 hours ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

I have most of my family over there.  Probably been there a dozen times in my life 

One random thing that struck me when I was younger was how the cashiers in supermarkets all sit while working.

With all the mandatory vacation time they get, they should be fine to add anothe 2 years.  My uncle told me before be retired from Air France that by end of his career, he was off more days than on if you included weekends.

So you've been there enough to know that prioritizing quality of life over being worked to death is something they value.  For some reason that is viewed by many as lazy.  I view that as evolved.  Nobody ever said on their death bed, "I really wish I worked more hours."

The first time I went to a grocery store in France, I had the same reaction.  My next thought was, "why aren't ours?"  Why stand when it doesn't make a better cashier?  No use getting tired feet for nothing.

Finally, I do not have a totally informed opinion on the retirement age change.  I do share my cynicism with Rubus though about the powers that be taking every D**n benefit they can away for profit.  Your sweeping generalization the sentence before was what caught my attention.  The French are no better or worse at productivity while at work than the U.S.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-productive-countries

[Iceresistance]

14 hours ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

that explains things.

are you living on campus at college?

No, I have severe separation anxiety since I have never experienced living without my grandmother or mother for months on end.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

I was homeschooled, come on let the hate flow through you. I'm used to it. 

Edited March 26 by SilverFallsAndrew

[SilverFallsAndrew]

 

Trump is right about one thing. The Ukraine war would have never happened had he been president. 

[Andie]

Quite likely.  

[SnarkyGoblin]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

 

Trump is right about one thing. The Ukraine war would have never happened had he been president. 

Ukraine no longer existing doesn't really count as "would never happened".

[SnarkyGoblin]

4 hours ago, Iceresistance said:

No, I have severe separation anxiety since I have never experienced living without my grandmother or mother for months on end.

You're going to need to face that reality eventually.

[SnarkyGoblin]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I was homeschooled, come on let the hate flow through you. I'm used to it. 

Not sure if this was directed at me, but why would anyone hate you for that?  I'm guessing that, especially at the beginning, it wasn't your choice.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

1 hour ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Not sure if this was directed at me, but why would anyone hate you for that?  I'm guessing that, especially at the beginning, it wasn't your choice.

You’re right. When I was a junior in high school I asked to go to the local public high school and my parents let me. Though they encouraged me to get my GED and start college instead. I wanted to continue playing high school sports though. The high school I went to was small, rural, and basically a waste of time from an academic standpoint though, socially it may have been worth it. I really didn’t want to go to college never having actually attended a formal class in school. 
 

My parents always made sure I was involved in sports and other community activities, so that they would have social experiences. Which was good, but I was targeted quite a bit by peers, especially in middle school, but I was fairly athletic and lifted weights, so that worked itself out. Probably the biggest area I suffered in socially was that I really struggled in knowing how to have platonic relationships with women. I never really interacted with girls growing up, so once I got older, my only interest in women was from the perspective of whether or not I wanted to date them or not, so I probably missed out on getting to know a lot of really cool people. 
 

Overall, I feel I benefited from being homeschooled. My situation was a bit unique in that I was educated by my father (My mom was a public school teacher.). I’ve always been grateful for the sacrifices they made for us. 

[Reg]

Why can't modern Americans be like the French and revolt against their government?

[Iceresistance]

4 minutes ago, Reg said:

Why can't modern Americans be like the French and revolt against their government?

They would be viewed as Insurrectionists

[Rubus Leucodermis]

1 hour ago, Reg said:

Why can't modern Americans be like the French and revolt against their government?

There is also a revolt brewing in Israel.

If there’s a second Trump term and Trump targets American democracy like Netanyahu is targeting Israeli democracy, I would not be surprised if they do.

[GHweatherChris]

Hell ya, MAGA!!

[Rubus Leucodermis]

1 hour ago, GHweatherChris said:

Hell ya, MAGA!!

Do you have an original idea of your own to share?

[roadtonowhere08]

4 hours ago, Reg said:

Why can't modern Americans be like the French and revolt against their government?

I think we might be in the very early stages of a sea change of many social constructs.

[Andie]

Care to expand on that?

[roadtonowhere08]

44 minutes ago, Andie said:

Care to expand on that?

1. The realignment of priorities regarding hours worked and hours with family/friends.

2. The eventual discussion/acceptance of UBI due to automation.

3. The elimination of the Electoral College

4. Online voting

and hopefully sometime soon

5. A revolt against social media algorithms pitting people against each other for profit.

[roadtonowhere08]

Things are getting fun in Israel:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/26/middleeast/israel-judicial-overhaul-legislation-intl/index.html

Bibi is a warmongering criminal.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

6 minutes ago, roadtonowhere08 said:

1. The realignment of priorities regarding hours worked and hours with family/friends.

2. The eventual discussion/acceptance of UBI due to automation.

3. The elimination of the Electoral College

4. Online voting

and hopefully sometime soon

5. A revolt against social media algorithms pitting people against each other for profit.

Or it will happen in a more reactionary direction:

1. Replacing a professional civil service with one hired exclusively at the direction of the President.

2. Continued expansion of Presidential power.

3. Expanded Federal police power to keep major cities and other left-leaning areas in line.

4. Homosexuality re-criminalized, LGBTQ folks put back into the closet.

5. Election results not in accord with what the ruling party wants retroactively "corrected."

6. Christian fascist values imposed by state mandate. Mandatory prayer and Bible study in public schools.

It really is up to what the people will tolerate. The political class the USA has, regardless of party, is certainly totally incapable of preserving a democratic republic.

[roadtonowhere08]

11 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Or it will happen in a more reactionary direction:

1. Replacing a professional civil service with one hired exclusively at the direction of the President.

2. Continued expansion of Presidential power.

3. Expanded Federal police power to keep major cities and other left-leaning areas in line.

4. Homosexuality re-criminalized, LGBTQ folks put back into the closet.

5. Election results not in accord with what the ruling party wants retroactively "corrected."

6. Christian fascist values imposed by state mandate. Mandatory prayer and Bible study in public schools.

It really is up to what the people will tolerate. The political class the USA has, regardless of party, is certainly totally incapable of preserving a democratic republic.

Pretty much.  The youth seem very politically and ideologically driven compared to the last couple of generations, so we shall see what comes of it.

[Deweydog]

Good lord…

[Rubus Leucodermis]

8 minutes ago, roadtonowhere08 said:

Pretty much.  The youth seem very politically and ideologically driven compared to the last couple of generations, so we shall see what comes of it.

I did some back of the envelope calculations and came up with maybe 10–20% being willing to revolt in the event of a serious attempt by Trumpists to create a fascist USA. That is actually quite significant, because experts on political revolutions say the key number needed to get a revolution going is more like 3.5%.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world

My main fear — pretty much a certainty, actually — is that there will be blood. The USA is just too steeped in a culture that values militarism and the use of violence to solve problems, with so many guns in circulation, that it is hard to imagine the process resolving itself via completely nonviolent means.

[roadtonowhere08]

11 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Good lord…

[Deweydog]

11 minutes ago, roadtonowhere08 said:

[roadtonowhere08]

19 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

[roadtonowhere08]

35 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

I did some back of the envelope calculations and came up with maybe 10–20% being willing to revolt in the event of a serious attempt by Trumpists to create a fascist USA. That is actually quite significant, because experts on political revolutions say the key number needed to get a revolution going is more like 3.5%.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world

My main fear — pretty much a certainty, actually — is that there will be blood. The USA is just too steeped in a culture that values militarism and the use of violence to solve problems, with so many guns in circulation, that it is hard to imagine the process resolving itself via completely nonviolent means.

Only 10-20%?  Another 4 years'll fix that.

[Deweydog]

52 minutes ago, roadtonowhere08 said:

A cowboy rides into town on Friday, stays three days and leaves town on Friday. How’d he do it?

[Andie]

Just want to say we need Pres. Drama like we need another Pres. Cramudgeon.   
I think DeSantis has this if he doesn’t trip up major-wise but we don’t know the Dem contenders (who will face a tidal wave of sour grapes all around).  
It could be an underwhelming Presidential run.  

[SnarkyGoblin]

Israelis sure know how to show dissatisfaction for their government.  Unions protesting alongside everyone else is going to be pretty effective.

[roadtonowhere08]

10 hours ago, Deweydog said:

A cowboy rides into town on Friday, stays three days and leaves town on Friday. How’d he do it?

[GHweatherChris]

16 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Do you have an original idea of your own to share?

Nah, MAGA!!

[Andie]

A female shooter armed with 2 assault rifles and a handgun walked into a private school a killed 3 adults and 3 children in Nashville.
Totally insane.  Why?  Particularly a female which is rare.  

[Andie]

Will the real Mr. Fetterman please stand up.  
 

https://www.newsweek.com/john-fetterman-hospital-photo-last-year-fuels-body-double-conspiracy-1790264

[Rubus Leucodermis]

8 hours ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Israelis sure know how to show dissatisfaction for their government.  Unions protesting alongside everyone else is going to be pretty effective.

Looks like Netanyahu caved. His government will probably fall soon.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

2 hours ago, Andie said:

A female shooter armed with 2 assault rifles and a handgun walked into a private school a killed 3 adults and 3 children in Nashville.
Totally insane.  Why?  Particularly a female which is rare.  

Well, they weren't always a female. 

Edited March 27 by SilverFallsAndrew