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A friend that lives on Camano Island is reporting hail. 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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The false ridging period was really a pattern change to wet... took the models awhile to figure it out.   Probably going to see a decent run of rainy days which is not too unusual for April.   

Today's high in Seattle was the normal high for January 11th.    

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Side note... what is likely driving this is the MJO going back to into phase 7 which clearly favors troughing in the PNW in April.   This was mentioned last week in Ag Weather update and again today.   When the models are not in sync with the MJO they tend to correct as it gets closer.   This can go both ways of course.    

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Forgot to post this picture I took at 8:30 tonight. 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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Incredible to see how consistent the precip has been over the mountains. Amazing storm for the higher elevations. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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16 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

Wicked!

The way this trough hung west a little bit  as it dropped south I knew there be shower and convergence zone potential for several days. Little stronger and it would have been very impressive. 

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1 minute ago, Slushy Inch said:

On the bright side, more potential for instability!

If we're going to remain in this repetitive troughing pattern as long as we can score some good convection, hail, t-storms, nice cloud structure, okay. Otherwise I'm not not a fan of rain and below average temperatures.

Think Spring Convective Showers/T-Storms, or Sunshine/Warmer Weather.
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4 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

If we're going to remain in this repetitive troughing pattern as long as we can score some good convection, hail, t-storms, nice cloud structure, okay. Otherwise I'm not not a fan of rain and below average temperatures.

Think Spring Convective Showers/T-Storms, or Sunshine/Warmer Weather.
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Agreed!

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As a survivor of the 2013-2016 permaridge, I can assure you I am fine with this troughing period going on for a whiiiiiiile longer... ;)

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50" 🥳

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 1”; February 26th, 2023

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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23 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

As a survivor of the 2013-2016 permaridge, I can assure you I am fine with this troughing period going on for a whiiiiiiile longer... ;)

feels like an east coast permaridge now. 🫤 It’s as persistent as anything I can remember in my lifetime.

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1 minute ago, Phil said:

feels like an east coast permaridge now. 🫤It’s as persistent as anything I can remember.

It's been a while since the PNW has seen troughing like this with a dying La Niña. March 2009 maybe?

Would be nice to have this troughing branch into the summer. Any indications on what we might see here yet? Do the tea leaves spell out any favorable acronyms?

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50" 🥳

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 1”; February 26th, 2023

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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ICON and GEM go zonal in the mid-long range. Opens the door to unseasonable windstorms and stout frontal precipitation. And potentially a more pronounced N/S temp and precip gradient.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50" 🥳

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 1”; February 26th, 2023

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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2 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

It's been a while since the PNW has seen troughing like this with a dying La Niña. March 2009 maybe?

Would be nice to have this troughing branch into the summer. Any indications on what we might see here yet? Do the tea leaves spell out any favorable acronyms?

I’ve just heard that Summer looks warmer and drier at this point.

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2 minutes ago, Slushy Inch said:

I’ve just heard that Summer looks warmer and drier at this point.

A constant to rely on these days.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50" 🥳

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 1”; February 26th, 2023

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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Looks like a convergence zone is forming!

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2023 Warm Season Stats

Number of 80+ days - 37

Number of 85+ days - 17

Number of 90+ days - 5 

Number of 95+ days - 1 (warmest so far - 95)

Number of 60+ lows - 5 (warmest so far - 61)

 

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10 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

It's been a while since the PNW has seen troughing like this with a dying La Niña. March 2009 maybe?

Would be nice to have this troughing branch into the summer. Any indications on what we might see here yet? Do the tea leaves spell out any favorable acronyms?

Maybe 2012? Thing about 2009 is that it was evolving into a modoki niño, which this event won’t be (assuming it happens). If you don’t count 2012, you have to look all the way back to the previous cold phase, I believe.

I do have a hunch about something, but I’d rather not say anything right now. ;) Need to test the theory first, lest I jinx it.

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14 minutes ago, Slushy Inch said:

Has been going on for some time now. Still seeing snow?

Yes but it’s not really sticking much even to grassy surfaces. Up at redmond ridge which is about just over 100 feet higher in elevation than me is a whole different story.

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2023 Warm Season Stats

Number of 80+ days - 37

Number of 85+ days - 17

Number of 90+ days - 5 

Number of 95+ days - 1 (warmest so far - 95)

Number of 60+ lows - 5 (warmest so far - 61)

 

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And in 10 minutes the roads are now completely covered.

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2023 Warm Season Stats

Number of 80+ days - 37

Number of 85+ days - 17

Number of 90+ days - 5 

Number of 95+ days - 1 (warmest so far - 95)

Number of 60+ lows - 5 (warmest so far - 61)

 

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5 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

What's the best analog up to this point from Jan 1st to April 1st. 2012? or....

I honestly would say that a pretty good one except Puget sound had a significant snow and ice event that Jan. And I’m pretty sure MBY got more snow that march and in multiple events while this past march all of mine was from one event. Solid dusting on everything now though it’s a pretty slushy dusting as everything isn’t turning that white but there’s a layer of slush over it.

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2023 Warm Season Stats

Number of 80+ days - 37

Number of 85+ days - 17

Number of 90+ days - 5 

Number of 95+ days - 1 (warmest so far - 95)

Number of 60+ lows - 5 (warmest so far - 61)

 

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Redmond ridge is nuts right now. That place can do so much better than me sometimes especially in elevation dependent setups.

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2023 Warm Season Stats

Number of 80+ days - 37

Number of 85+ days - 17

Number of 90+ days - 5 

Number of 95+ days - 1 (warmest so far - 95)

Number of 60+ lows - 5 (warmest so far - 61)

 

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Picked up a very slushy 0.25” so far. Redmond ridge probably has around 2 inches based on the cams.

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2023 Warm Season Stats

Number of 80+ days - 37

Number of 85+ days - 17

Number of 90+ days - 5 

Number of 95+ days - 1 (warmest so far - 95)

Number of 60+ lows - 5 (warmest so far - 61)

 

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Wtf is going in lol, if this pattern had set up in December like we've had the last 6 weeks it would of been a winter to remember! It's been a great winter for a few places though but the has been a crazy long stretch of below temps.

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We come from the land of the ice and snow.

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