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the left gone wild!

 

It is really sad. I know there are several UW parents on here, and if I were one of them this would give me pause. Unfortunately we have seen a dramatic transformation on the left and in academia over the past decade. I fear this will only continue to get worse and act to divide us. Dr. Mass is a true scientist who is interested in the truth. Unfortunately he is being told the truth does not matter. 

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2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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It is really sad. I know there are several UW parents on here, and if I were one of them this would give me pause. Unfortunately we have seen a dramatic transformation on the left and in academia over the past decade. I fear this will only continue to get worse and act to divide us. Dr. Mass is a true scientist who is interested in the truth. Unfortunately he is being told the truth does not matter.

It is a societal shift of entitlement that is unwarranted in our country, but yet here we are.

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What is really frightening when you read accounts like those of Dr. Mass and Jordan Petersen, is the seemingly depraved indifference and lack of humanity of the university administration. At best they throw up their hands and admit they are powerless to stop the baying hounds running wild on the moors. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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It is really sad. I know there are several UW parents on here, and if I were one of them this would give me pause. Unfortunately we have seen a dramatic transformation on the left and in academia over the past decade. I fear this will only continue to get worse and act to divide us. Dr. Mass is a true scientist who is interested in the truth. Unfortunately he is being told the truth does not matter.

 

Its rampant across all colleges.

 

And I know my son LOVES to challenge established lines. Being fed BS will not convert him. He will be more adamant the other way

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It is a societal shift of entitlement that is unwarranted in our country, but yet here we are.

 

I think it is deeper than that however. I think a lot of it starts in the public education system. We now have several generations of parents who have ceded child rearing to the state. Not only with the basics of how to read and write, but how to view sex, race, gender, social situations, inequity, or perceived inequity, history, etc... That is only the tip of the iceberg, but definitely a part of it 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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I think it is deeper than that however. I think a lot of it starts in the public education system. We now have several generations of parents who have ceded child rearing to the state. Not only with the basics of how to read and write, but how to view sex, race, gender, social situations, inequity, or perceived inequity, history, etc... That is only the tip of the iceberg, but definitely a part of it

It starts at home or lack thereof sadly, I am rooted in how I was raised and it saddens me to see the exact opposite now. None of us should be forced to agree with something we don't but our society today says that anything goes, that is not right.

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Reading Cliff Mass latest blog. Scary stuff at UW. The new puritans.

 

Real Oregonians are not Seahawk fans. 

I just read the blog posting. Uhhh. Yeah. Really scary. This is what happens when people turn the weather/climate science into a cult religion and that's exactly what it is. Insanity.

 

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If only we could get rid of the left in this country, then all of our problem would be solved. I guess at very least we’ve identified the issue. It’s a start.

I know people on both sides of the political spectrum who are just whacked out. Definitely not just one side causing all the issues.
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I know people on both sides of the political spectrum who are just whacked out. Definitely not just one side causing all the issues.

It is not political or scientific, it is a social issue, it is a god forbid someone's feelings are hurt issue, it is a patty cake view on life issue.

 

Cloudy and 53 here.

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It starts at home or lack thereof sadly, I am rooted in how I was raised and it saddens me to see the exact opposite now. None of us should be forced to agree with something we don't but our society today says that anything goes, that is not right.

 

But you were raised with a certain ethos. The majority of people are not even raised with a concept of right vs wrong. My wife for example was not raised with the concept of right and wrong, right is doing something that turns out well for you, wrong is doing something which turns out wrong for you. Pretty sad that through no fault of her own she did not even recognize there was inherent morality until she was in her late 20s. Before she believed it was some kind of shifting personal abstract we get to decide. 

 

Our current President is someone who does not seem to grasp this either (Just for you Jesse.).

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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It is not political or scientific, it is a social issue, it is a god forbid someone's feelings are hurt issue, it is a patty cake view on life issue.

 

Cloudy and 53 here.

 

Yeah, I almost and should have taken "the left" reference out of my original post. The left is on the warpath now, it could just as easily be the other way around. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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But you were raised with a certain ethos. The majority of people are not even raised with a concept of right vs wrong. My wife for example was not raised with the concept of right and wrong, right is doing something that turns out well for you, wrong is doing something which turns out wrong for you. Pretty sad that through no fault of her own she did not even recognize there was inherent morality until she was in her late 20s. Before she believed it was some kind of shifting personal abstract we get to decide.

 

Our current President is someone who does not seem to grasp this either (Just for you Jesse.).

So it starts from home, sounds like she figured it out quick enough to realize it.

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Dr. Mass's "Cultural Revolution" reference though is especially poignant. What we are seeing, the puritanical zeal, the elder shaming, the generational hatred towards those who came before us, the tearing down of our history and institutions, the projection of current norms and mores onto the past, all these are hallmarks of a Mao style "cultural revolution."

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Fuckk politics and divisive shitt.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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Yeah, I almost and should have taken "the left" reference out of my original post. The left is on the warpath now, it could just as easily be the other way around. 

When we were growing up the 'left' or whatever we call them the sane Democrat party weren't anything like now. Now they are regressive leftists radicalized by socialism and communism. They are intentionally ignoring everyone's constitutional and individual rights as if we didn't have a constitution at all, which is what they want. God forbid they ever gain total power in our country we are beyond doomed. We need a complete overhaul of our universities and education system. Any professor, dean, board member, faculty or teacher who teaches wrong-think thought police tactics not allowing free speech or the exchange of ideas must be abolished removed immediately. Once we can accomplish that(and maybe I'm crazy, but I know we can), only then can we begin to reverse this new destructive ideology. We must remove this new era of activism in our society too. Through harassment, threats, and intimidation they have been allowed to throw their weight around influencing everything from politics to sports now.

 

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Down to 49F with steady rain in Springfield.

Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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If only we could get rid of the left in this country, then all of our problem would be solved. I guess at very least we’ve identified the issue. It’s a start.

It's not just the left to blame. But as far as academic intolerance, yes, they're leading the way. And that's what Cliff Mass' blog post was about.

 

Can we talk about things that really happened?

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If only we could get rid of the left in this country, then all of our problem would be solved. I guess at very least we’ve identified the issue. It’s a start.

The orwellian utopia stuff isn’t left wing at all. It’s just authoritarian, and it’s the antithesis of what higher education should strive to be (since banning speech and uncomfortable truths demonstrates closed-mindedness and/or a general lack of intellectual curiosity).

 

So yeah, hopefully this s**t is exterminated sooner rather than later.

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new generation of kids coming up makes me really scared for what the future holds to be honest. People are a lot different now than back when my parents were kids. I was raised with strict parents and was taught values and right and wrong. I am glad for that now that I’m out of high school and living on my own. Lot of kids my age are still living with their parents jobless wanting everything to be handed to them. I’m glad I was raised the way I was, these kids with no role models for parents are too sensitive, have no moral values and expect everything that everything should be free and handed to them.

 

I was raised in a pretty strict, but loving environment. My parents poured a lot into their children and all in all we turned into modestly productive adults. And we all learned how to think independently. I am definitely the most conservative of the kids, my brother closest to me is slightly right of center, my youngest brother is apathetic, and my sister is a bit to the left of center. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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In my experiences the past roughly 4-5 years I've found that there are good and reasonable liberals, conservatives, independents, centrists, libertarians, whom you can discuss a myriad of topics with and even if you do not see eye-to-eye on everything, you leave the discussion or debate with civility often on mutual ground, or you respectfully agree to disagree. However, there are absolutely no good or reasonable regressive leftists and progressives. Not a single one. If there is disagreement they are terribly uncivil resorting to insults, name calling, lies, slander, and have no sense of sanity, rationality, common sense, nor morals or values while subjugating their own twisted version of morality upon everyone. Leftists are a plague.

 

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Look like the cold Canadian trough is a touch further west as it slides southward before quickly scooting southeastward.

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Dr. Mass's "Cultural Revolution" reference though is especially poignant. What we are seeing, the puritanical zeal, the elder shaming, the generational hatred towards those who came before us, the tearing down of our history and institutions, the projection of current norms and mores onto the past, all these are hallmarks of a Mao style "cultural revolution."

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My wife has told me until she met me and her former boss (Who she met around the same time as me.), she had never actually known someone who was openly conservative, and had no idea what conservative or libertarian ideas were. It was not that she had rejected them, she had never been exposed to them. I think that is one of the big differences for many people who grow up in a conservative home, I was bombarded with liberal messages every time I turned on the television, watched a movie, worked for some of my mom's colleagues (She was an educator.). 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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It’s really difficult to read all of this without thinking that there are a lot of people terrified of change. Yet our very own foundation was built on just that.

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Cold Season 2023/24:

Total snowfall: 26"

Highest daily snowfall: 5"

Deepest snow depth: 12"

Coldest daily high: -20ºF

Coldest daily low: -42ºF

Number of subzero days: 5

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I think you're reading too much into the term "progressive". That technically means change...but it has nothing to do with the intolerant BS that Cliff Mass and others have witnessed first hand.

 

I would also note the demographic of this forum is disproportionately seeing the negative effects of our present "change."

 

I'm probably a little far off in the weeds on this one though...

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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I think there is going to be some widespread frost late next week

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Had some sun today, some rain and a little wind. High of 61 today and so far a low of 50. Little warmer than recent nights. Noticing a lot of tree color now. 

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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Great thoughts being shared about our political woes right now.  Pretty interesting to hear that Cliff Mass is even getting into the fray.  

 

At any rate....next week's trough is looking like a classic to bring some pretty chilly low temps and probably one or two pretty crisp max temps as well.  I'm not one bit surprised to see yet another nice looking trough trying to set up in the 8 to 10 day period now.  At least the first half of this month is going to be very much to my liking I think.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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I was more alluding to what others have said not just tonight but in the past as well where I usually keep tight lipped. I agree on the Cliff Mass BS.

 

Change is definitely something people view differently. But I think sometimes we can err when we assume the reasons for this. Some people view all social change as bad, some view it almost entirely as good, some view it as more of a mixed bag. 

 

That is probably where I fall in. I think we've made tremendous strides in many areas of social inequality, but in a counter intuitive way we have given up a lot of those gains culturally since about 2012. That's probably a much longer topic for another day. 

 

But I think many of us on the right see what appears to be an organized effort by academia and certain "WOKE" circles to completely undermine and defame the history and the path which we believe made us the greatest nation which has ever existed and brought unparalleled opportunity not only to our citizens, but immigrants, and even people across the world. 

 

Very few people would say we have been blameless or there were not bumps in the road, but throwing the baby out with the bathwater is very concerning. As well as the underlying unease that when a group assumes social and political hegemony through force, trickery, or shaming, they tend to turn very quickly and vengefully on their enemies. That holds true right or left. Dr. Mass is feeling that right now.  

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