Andie Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Thanks for the update Jaster! Wouldn't that be something?! It's been a long time. I recall deep snow in 2008-2009 winter here. Then it dried up. I'm hoping we don't start seeing it only every 10 yrs as I may have to travel to see snow. 1 Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 I'm starting to get pretty excited. I'm pretty sure there will be snow on the ground by late November here. I don't see much of a way to avoid it, which is highly unusual given the last 4 years. With 1917 playing out around CO, what does your historical data tell you for that year wrt early snows in your area? Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 With 1917 playing out around CO, what does your historical data tell you for that year wrt early snows in your area?It was really limited to north of here until later into December. The temps actually looked pretty nonchalant all the way through November. Historic is a pretty good word. Never anything like this so early. Not even 1917 or 1911. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Next week features high in the 30s and lows in the low 20s for mby. Brrrrrrrr. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 12Z Euro with very cold weather and storminess in the center of the nation next Thursday-Saturday, Nov. 7-9. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 12Z Euro with very cold weather and storminess in the center of the nation next Thursday-Saturday, Nov. 7-9. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Well lets do it all over again next week and start some storm tracking. It can be frustrating, but it pulls me in every time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Well lets do it all over again next week and start some storm tracking. It can be frustrating, but it pulls me in every time.I think it's my favorite hobby lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Well lets do it all over again next week and start some storm tracking. It can be frustrating, but it pulls me in every time.No kidding. I remember just 3-4 days ago when both the major models for multiple runs were showing eastern Nebraska getting 10-15" of snow and instead, I don't think I crossed 1/2" total between both events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 No kidding. I remember just 3-4 days ago when both the major models for multiple runs were showing eastern Nebraska getting 10-15" of snow and instead, I don't think I crossed 1/2" total between both events. That’s the frustrating part when it shows a big one. Hopefully the pattern stays active for us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 LES this weekend will be kicking in...... 4 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Have to watch for a storm next week (Th-Sat timeframe). I think enough cold air will be in place for some snow accumulations. Who gets what, where, how much is all up in the air.More white than wet?! 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Have to watch for a storm next week (Th-Sat timeframe). I think enough cold air will be in place for some snow accumulations. Who gets what, where, how much is all up in the air. I believe that cold air will be available this time. More white than wet?!Thje models look very cold, should be a fun month. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Thje models look very cold, should be a fun month.Indeed friend. Its looking active and much BN tempwise. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 LES this weekend will be kicking in...... Just like 13-14, there should be above to way above normal LES with the lakes so full and coming off a warm summer, then plunging into a cold winter. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted October 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 It's going to feel like mid-winter later next week across the heartland and our northern members. An active pattern is going to set up as we will likely track a couple systems moving through the northern half of our Sub. A rather decent clipper is poised to track across the Upper MW Mon/Tue ushering a push of cold air out ahead of the next wave mid/late next week. A sharp thermal boundary sets up shop over the Plains/MW/GL's. Last nights 00z GFS is painting another snowfall for a lot of us. As this pattern continues to evolve, one of the real exciting things I'm noticing is that we are not lacking tracking systems/storms. In years past, a week would go by before the next storm started showing up on the models. On the other hand, this year it seems like every other day there is a system traversing our Sub one way or another. It's certainly not a boring pattern. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 The flip to winter has been fast and furious. I dont really see any letting up. We're constantly 15-20 degrees below normal and most of the sub have already had snow. Pretty remarkable 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted October 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 The flip to winter has been fast and furious. I dont really see any letting up. We're constantly 15-20 degrees below normal and most of the sub have already had snow. Pretty remarkableIndeed it is! A lot of us will see daytime highs in the 20's next week with snow OTG during the 1st week of November. That's something I haven't seen in a while. I can't remember exactly when the Nov '14 cold came but I do remember going fishing in Wisconsin that month and there was already ice forming on the lake where I was fishing near the shoreline and launch area. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Indeed it is! A lot of us will see daytime highs in the 20's next week with snow OTG during the 1st week of November. That's something I haven't seen in a while. I can't remember exactly when the Nov '14 cold came but I do remember going fishing in Wisconsin that month and there was already ice forming on the lake where I was fishing near the shoreline and launch area.2014 here at DSM-- from NOV 11 to NOV 21st had eleven consecutive days 10F or more below avg. Coldest day relative to avg was NOV 19th with a high of 19 - low of 11 . 23F below normal for that day. 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted October 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 2014 here at DSM-- from NOV 11 to NOV 21st had eleven consecutive days 10F or more below avg. Coldest day relative to avg was NOV 19th with a high of 19 - low of 11 . 23F below normal for that day.That sounds about right. Thanks Grizz. This year we are starting way earlier and maybe much harder and longer than '14. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 I love reading this: Highs may be stuck in the upperteens to mid 20s. The first half of November is going to be cold,no doubt about that. Lakes should be icing up pretty quick in thenext couple of weeks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 coldest Halloween on recordhttps://twitter.com/NWSKansasCity/status/1189917864842522624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3ANWSKansasCity%7Ctwcon%5Etimelinechrome&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weather.gov%2Feax%2Fdss 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 It's going to feel like mid-winter later next week across the heartland and our northern members. An active pattern is going to set up as we will likely track a couple systems moving through the northern half of our Sub. A rather decent clipper is poised to track across the Upper MW Mon/Tue ushering a push of cold air out ahead of the next wave mid/late next week. A sharp thermal boundary sets up shop over the Plains/MW/GL's. Last nights 00z GFS is painting another snowfall for a lot of us. As this pattern continues to evolve, one of the real exciting things I'm noticing is that we are not lacking tracking systems/storms. In years past, a week would go by before the next storm started showing up on the models. On the other hand, this year it seems like every other day there is a system traversing our Sub one way or another. It's certainly not a boring pattern. In the great winters it seems to snow all the time. What I call the crisscross effect where the primary storm tracks overlap. This may be another magnitude above those! I envision some places (SWMI??) still digging out from one of these major S Stream systems when WHAM! a strong clipper is fast on the heels as we've been seeing several times so far. That "spoof" map I posted with 16 snow days around here? might not be so far-fetched the way things are starting off. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 coldest Halloween on recordhttps://twitter.com/NWSKansasCity/status/1189917864842522624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3ANWSKansasCity%7Ctwcon%5Etimelinechrome&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weather.gov%2Feax%2FdssWhat was your winter like in 1993-1994? If I recall that was a pretty bad winter for the KC area?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 What was your winter like in 1993-1994? If I recall that was a pretty bad winter for the KC area??It was and a very wet year as well, esp the summer of '93. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Not sure what accumulations look like but GFS is trying to put together a system next Wed-Thu. And also a little clipper like system right ahead of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Modeling now starting to show some of the break in the cold I'm anticipating post November 10th for we southerners in the group. Our friends up north get to enjoy what looks like a "clipper-zipper" pattern throughout the run. Looks pretty exciting and fun for you all. After that, sometime after the 20th, I expect to see the first real onslaught of deep southern lows, cold and snow to show their face for us down here in TX and eastern Oklahoma.This is more in line with what I truly did anticipate and I do think it will come to fruition. You folks got white Halloween. Can I get my white Thanksgiving after all? We shall see. The suspense builds.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Modeling now starting to show some of the break in the cold I'm anticipating post November 10th for we southerners in the group. Our friends up north get to enjoy what looks like a "clipper-zipper" pattern throughout the run. Looks pretty exciting and fun for you all. After that, sometime after the 20th, I expect to see the first real onslaught of deep southern lows, cold and snow to show their face for us down here in TX and eastern Oklahoma.This is more in line with what I truly did anticipate and I do think it will come to fruition. You folks got white Halloween. Can I get my white Thanksgiving after all? We shall see. The suspense builds.... Pulling for you OKWx! This glancing blow wrt the snow/winds/temps has me wishing for this to revisit after it's cold. 95% of this qpf will have run down the storm drain when said and done Friday. Be great if we could repeat this around Thanksgiving. Last year T-day was very cold but dry. We had some scattered left-over snow patches. The big storm hit the following Monday 11-26 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Next week should be interesting in terms of precip. By midweek, it starts getting quite cold (cold enough for snow). Lows have a shot of being in the teens. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 PER NOAA: After the system passage Wednesday, the polar jet drops south tonear the MI-OH allowing for a very cold Canadian airmass to move inacross the northern Plains and Great Lakes region. With the lakesstill running in the 50`s, they will help to moderate this airmassas it reaches SE MI keeping the coldest temperatures well west ofthe region. That said, high temperatures are going to be very belowaverage struggling to even reach 40 Thursday and Friday. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 coldest Halloween on recordhttps://twitter.com/NWSKansasCity/status/1189917864842522624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3ANWSKansasCity%7Ctwcon%5Etimelinechrome&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weather.gov%2Feax%2FdssWOW bud.....awesome stuff!!!!! 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Next week, especially, midweek on, will feature a very drastic change...... 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Might as well pin that as the winter temps map 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Might as well pin that as the winter temps mapIt might be colder than that....who knows. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Dont forget to set your clocks back 1 hr this weekend..... Daylight saving time ends on the first Sunday in November, when clocks are moved back an hour at 2 a.m. local daylight time (so they will then read 1 a.m. local standard time) 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder98 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Winter has definitely arrived early this year for the Upper Midwest. Forecast highs in the 20's next week in Wausau and International Falls. It's only early November too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Winter has definitely arrived early this year for the Upper Midwest. Forecast highs in the 20's next week in Wausau and International Falls. It's only early November too. wausauwiwxforecast13.PNG InternationalFallsMNwxforecast13.PNGStarted w a bang....that's for sure! Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 This is what we better get used to now....its here to stay....... 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltrami Island Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Is it just me or does everyone on here think this cold pattern setting in is going to lock in like 2013-14 and last until march?I just keep thinking of Nov-Dec 2014. Nov was well below average but December flipped on a coin to well above average. Why is a 2014 repeat not just as likely? Honest question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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