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3 hours ago, ShawniganLake said:

Tell us how you really feel, grandpa!  😂 

I mean C’MON at least play good music like Metallica or Pearl Jam or Soundgarden or Led Zeppelin or The Doors or even some Rush…Something I can stomach as it echos across the lake and into my eardrums. Not some dumb country song like “I’m in my lifted Dodge and I’m driving down a dirt road and going to shoot me some tin cans in the woods and drink some Coors Light”  By some dude with a fake southern drawl that grew up in Oregon. 
 

NOW GET OFF MY LAWN YOU YOUNG WIPPER SNAPPERS…I just mowed it. 

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13 minutes ago, MossMan said:

I mean C’MON at least play good music like Metallica or Pearl Jam or Soundgarden or Led Zeppelin or The Doors or even some Rush…Something I can stomach as it echos across the lake and into my eardrums. Not some dumb country song like “I’m in my lifted Dodge and I’m driving down a dirt road and going to shoot me some tin cans in the woods and drink some Coors Light”  By some dude with a fake southern drawl that grew up in Oregon. 
 

NOW GET OFF MY LAWN YOU YOUNG WIPPER SNAPPERS…I just mowed it. 

Fun Fact. Australians call weed whacking "Whipper Snipping" 

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2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events)

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5 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Fun Fact. Australians call weed whacking "Whipper Snipping" 

Oh I am using that from now on!!! 

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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2 hours ago, Skagit Weather said:

Yeah, it's definitely been an up and down cycle. My understanding is that glacier size generally peaked before or around 1900 and then trended downwards until the late 1940s/early '50s. Some of the smaller glaciers in the 1950s looked comparable to what they did in the last decade. With the slightly cooler and wetter weather of the late 50s to early 70s most glaciers grew. The average glacier on Mt. Baker advanced by 500+ meters. Since then it's been all downhill and as far as I know every glacier in the Cascades (save the new ones on Mt. St. Helens) is at it's smallest size in recorded history.

Unless another cooling period was on its way, many of our current glaciers were always destined to disappear (especially those below 8-9,000'), but having warmer and dryer than normal summers is significantly speeding up the process. What was probably going to happen in 100-200 years now may happen in 50.

I think they peaked earlier than that closer to the mid 19th century. Blue glacier which was once combined with White Glacier (on Mount Olympus) peaked around 1815 and Nisqually glacier peaked around 1850. 

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Eric was all over the warming water off the west coast in the Ag Weather update today.    He thinks its going to be warm in the west this summer and cooler in the middle part of the country.

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9 minutes ago, T-Town said:

Sunny and breezy and 64 here. Breezier in Ellensburg. 

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Typical Ellensburg... seems like every time we stop there its windy. 

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Currently 53 and drizzle here at my place. Oh and my Pandora must have heard me talk about Rush on the forum earlier. I’m going to take out a loan and put a $20k sound system in my $7k boat and blast all of those young punks at the lake with real music all summer long!! 

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27 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Typical Ellensburg... seems like every time we stop there its windy. 

Passed through (and stopped in) Ellensburg last October. Was dead calm both on the way there and back.

My brother told me this was highly unusual.

The 82F car temp on top of Snoqualmie Pass was also highly unusual given it was at about noon on October 2nd.

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8 hours ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I’ve kind of made peace with the fact that most of the Cascade glaciers are toast. 

I was thinking about this today... you have comes to terms with the reality of a process (melting glaciers) that started long before your arrival on this planet and will likely continue long after your departure.   Part of a cycle that has repeated for eons.  

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2 hours ago, lowlandsnow said:

I think they peaked earlier than that closer to the mid 19th century. Blue glacier which was once combined with White Glacier (on Mount Olympus) peaked around 1815 and Nisqually glacier peaked around 1850. 

That may be true, but it looks like there really wasn't much change in length for most of them until 1900 (barring a couple exceptions). Here are estimated relative glacier lengths from a number of glaciers throughout the Washington Cascades based on the growth rates of lichen in the associated moraines (associated paper). Pretty consistent lengths throughout the 19th century although the Nisqually on Rainier and Easton on Baker show more retreat by 1900.

It's kind of remarkable how differently each glacier responds to its environmental conditions (even in the same range, some will grow for a decade while others will shrink), but my understanding is most specialists use 1900 as a rough date for when retreat began in earnest.

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Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.0"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 

2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16)

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3 hours ago, MossMan said:

I mean C’MON at least play good music like Metallica or Pearl Jam or Soundgarden or Led Zeppelin or The Doors or even some Rush…Something I can stomach as it echos across the lake and into my eardrums. Not some dumb country song like “I’m in my lifted Dodge and I’m driving down a dirt road and going to shoot me some tin cans in the woods and drink some Coors Light”  By some dude with a fake southern drawl that grew up in Oregon. 
 

NOW GET OFF MY LAWN YOU YOUNG WIPPER SNAPPERS…I just mowed it. 

Some solid choices in there.

You’re not old and grumpy, you’ve simply acquired the wisdom to know that those kids have no damm business being on your lawn. 

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1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

I was thinking about this today... you have comes to terms with the reality of a process (melting glaciers) that started long before your arrival on this planet and will likely continue long after your departure.   Part of a cycle that has repeated for eons.  

Posts like this are why I am convinced you love the drama, even though you'll never admit it... ;)

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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14 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

Posts like this are why I am convinced you love the drama, even though you'll never admit it... ;)

oh yeah lol

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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2 hours ago, T-Town said:

Sunny and breezy and 64 here. Breezier in Ellensburg. 

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When we drove through yesterday on our drive back from Helena it was as windy as I’ve ever driven through and kind of difficult to stay in the lane. the side wind was such that our windows and seals on driver side were buckling and super loud. Annoying when you have two sleeping kiddos in the back seat. 

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2 hours ago, T-Town said:

Some solid choices in there.

You’re not old and grumpy, you’ve simply acquired the wisdom to know that those kids have no damm business being on your lawn. 

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I’m a little put off by the “even some Rush” comment. Like Rush would be acceptable but not preferred. And by put off I mean I’m blinded by anger.

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Another really nice day. 62/51 spread here, although it may go a bit lower by midnight. Mostly cloudy this morning, with some clearing and breezy NW winds this afternoon. Currently partly cloudy and 57 as the sun dips beneath the horizon.

Summer ☀️ grows while Winter ❄️  goes

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1 hour ago, Meatyorologist said:

Posts like this are why I am convinced you love the drama, even though you'll never admit it... ;)

For sure.   Andrew and Jesse make it fun.

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4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

For sure.   Andrew and Jesse make it fun.

It sounds like this is fun for everyone from top to bottom in this situation. It's like a sitcom, honestly

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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6 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

It sounds like this is fun for everyone from top to bottom in this situation. It's like a sitcom, honestly

Nah. Actually I think Tim’s an absolute psycho and I wish he wasn’t here 😃

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16 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Nah. Actually I think Tim’s an absolute psycho and I wish he wasn’t here 😃

*cue laugh track*

Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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9 hours ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Nah. Actually I think Tim’s an absolute psycho and I wish he wasn’t here 😃

Yeah... I am the complete opposite of a psycho.   I am very bland.   People in my real life would laugh at your assessment.   Honestly.   I have just been beaten up by you two on here so much that I don't mind needling you.    And almost everything I post here makes sense and is totally logical.  The fact that you are endlessly offended by what I say is amusing.

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11 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

Batman and the Joker are incomplete without each other.

Yeah... I guess it would be boring otherwise.   

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3 hours ago, Skagit Weather said:

That may be true, but it looks like there really wasn't much change in length for most of them until 1900 (barring a couple exceptions). Here are estimated relative glacier lengths from a number of glaciers throughout the Washington Cascades based on the growth rates of lichen in the associated moraines (associated paper). Pretty consistent lengths throughout the 19th century although the Nisqually on Rainier and Easton on Baker show more retreat by 1900.

It's kind of remarkable how differently each glacier responds to its environmental conditions (even in the same range, some will grow for a decade while others will shrink), but my understanding is most specialists use 1900 as a rough date for when retreat began in earnest.

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I am guessing White/Blue glacier responds to climate change quicker due to its low elevation and was one of the few exceptions. It had retreated 535m by 1890(Recent Variations of Blue Glacier, Olympic Mountains, Washington, U.S.A. (tandfonline.com). Nonetheless its crazy how much some glaciers have retreated. This is a link with photos showing how much larger glaciers were in the North Cascades in the early 20th century The Washington Traveler - Forest History Society.

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3 hours ago, Skagit Weather said:

That may be true, but it looks like there really wasn't much change in length for most of them until 1900 (barring a couple exceptions). Here are estimated relative glacier lengths from a number of glaciers throughout the Washington Cascades based on the growth rates of lichen in the associated moraines (associated paper). Pretty consistent lengths throughout the 19th century although the Nisqually on Rainier and Easton on Baker show more retreat by 1900.

It's kind of remarkable how differently each glacier responds to its environmental conditions (even in the same range, some will grow for a decade while others will shrink), but my understanding is most specialists use 1900 as a rough date for when retreat began in earnest.

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Does that show that there was not really any glacier growth in the 1800s?    

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Suddenly Friday is a point of interest. Some residual moisture being slung around into the area from the east due to a dying cutoff ULL to the south. Temperatures are tame too, mainly below 80F.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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