St Paul Storm Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just got back from downtown Minneapolis. Roads are a slushy icy mess. Temp still sitting at 32F. Precip has been all snow since about 5pm. Way underperformed on snow totals so far. The warm layer was too strong during the day. We should see snow overnight but ratios are so low and with immediate compaction it’ll be impossible to measure in the morning. I would definitely say this thing underperformed. I would also say what the GFS showed a few days ago was the most accurate. Unfortunately it caved to the other models and ended up busting. Funny how weather works. This storm is a reminder that you win some, but you lose most when it comes to weather. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 snow showers tonight but 35 degrees so melting on contact. Returns headed to Omaha look nice so may be a different story there. Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNTonka Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just got back from downtown Minneapolis. Roads are a slushy icy mess. Temp still sitting at 32F. Precip has been all snow since about 5pm. Way underperformed on snow totals so far. The warm layer was too strong during the day. We should see snow overnight but ratios are so low and with immediate compaction it’ll be impossible to measure in the morning. I would definitely say this thing underperformed. I would also say what the GFS showed a few days ago was the most accurate. Unfortunately it caved to the other models and ended up busting. Funny how weather works.This storm is a reminder that you win some, but you lose most when it comes to weather.Might get another 1/2” by morning by the looks of the radar if we are lucky. I can’t complain. It’s nice to have snow on the ground this early in the season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Last four hours - 8" of new snow at DLH - 4 consecutive hours of 2" hour rates.26" on the ground. Remarkable. Will be interesting how much a buddy of mine will report 7NW of Two Harbors.METAR: KDLH 010755Z 08023G38KT 1/2SM R09/4000V4500FT SN BLSN VV006 M02/M03 A2963 RMK AO2 PK WND 07038/0755 SLP052 SNINCR 2/26 P0008 T10171028 $14.5" officially for DLH for 11/30. Probably easily make 20" for total storm. Hills N and E of town may flirt with 30" 3 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Last 5 hours- 10" of new snow. 28" on the ground. METAR: KDLH [Duluth Intl Arpt]METAR: KDLH 010855Z 07018G30KT 1/2SM R09/4000V5500FT SN BLSN VV006 M02/M03 A2962 RMK AO2 PK WND 07037/0759 SLP052 SNINCR 2/28 P0007 60021 T10171028 56007 $ 3 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Nice band rotating through C.IA at the moment. It's not like Duluth - but it's 1-2" of snow that was not forecasted. Already 1/2" to 3/4" and even roads getting greasy. 32.5. 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Last 5 hours- 10" of new snow. 28" on the ground. METAR: KDLH [Duluth Intl Arpt]METAR: KDLH 010855Z 07018G30KT 1/2SM R09/4000V5500FT SN BLSN VV006 M02/M03 A2962 RMK AO2 PK WND 07037/0759 SLP052 SNINCR 2/28 P0007 60021 T10171028 56007 $I wasn't lying when I said what I would do to be in Duluth for this storm. It's producing each and every way it can for that part of MN. It's really extraordinary to see such heavy snowfall rates continuing for so many hours. Incredible storm for them folks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Jaster should see some good SN later this morning... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 There was a very rare occurrence on Nov 29th in the AZ valley as 3 tornado's hit the area...it's not often you get a tornado in the valley, let alone this late in the year...and not just 1, but 3! https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix-weather/2019/11/29/nws-confirms-3-tornadoes-touched-down-phoenix-area-friday-morning/4336637002/ The ski resort in Flagstaff, AZ reported 54" of snow from this storm... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Was not supposed to snow here 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Was not supposed to snow hereYou wrote off Winter till late December...well, that didn't last long...welcome back~! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 You wrote off Winter till late December...well, that didn't last long...welcome back~!I think P-rates here fooled all the models. We got basically all snow. I measured 5.5” of hard compacted snow. we had to be close to 2” per hour. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 What a surprise I woke up to 3" of snow on the ground. And this is a Christmas card setting snow with snow on the ground, roofs, road, sidewalk and trees. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 I think P-rates here fooled all the models. We got basically all snow. I measured 5.5” of hard compacted snow. we had to be close to 2” per hour.Here at my house I measured just over 3" but hey I just got up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 What a surprise I woke up to 3" of snow on the ground. And this is a Christmas card setting snow with snow on the ground, roofs, road, sidewalk and trees. Always good to get some bonus snow congrats! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Might get another 1/2” by morning by the looks of the radar if we are lucky. I can’t complain. It’s nice to have snow on the ground this early in the season.Looking out the window I would say we got that 1/2” and a bit more. Snowing now and another 1-3” in the point today. This storm didn’t exactly pan out, but like you said.... we have quite a bit of snow on the ground and it looks and feels like winter. Can’t complain at all. We finished November above normal on snowfall too. Good start to winter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 What a surprise I woke up to 3" of snow on the ground. And this is a Christmas card setting snow with snow on the ground, roofs, road, sidewalk and trees. Congrats! Always nice to score a surprise. Take them whenever you can get them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Looks like my west side Peeps got the snow surprise I thought SEMI was in line for. You know you're in a favored place when things break your way. Overnight timing ftw! Can't remember when I've seen a surface map quite like this morning's?? At SPS - Sorry you got hosed by models and daytime heating to your south. Just got up at 8 am. The bedroom has an east facing window and I could hear pingers overnight. Looking at hourly obs -SN began at 4, and +SN as of 8 am. Looks like 1.5 or 2" by eyeball. Kudos to APX for upgrading this tier of counties to a Warning!! Down in town here it looks like a postcard with snow on every branch! 3 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutzowgl14 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 It looks like a blizzard up here in Egg Harbor, WI. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 I think P-rates here fooled all the models. We got basically all snow. I measured 5.5” of hard compacted snow. we had to be close to 2” per hour.Congrats! (Fooled all the models, and some highly skilled Mets apparently. What snow amts were they calling for?) Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Congrats! (Fooled all the models, and some highly skilled Mets apparently. What snow amts were they calling for?)1/2” of slop. Was supposed to be mostly rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlp Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 It looks like a blizzard up here in Egg Harbor, WI.Awesome! Looks like a wet snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 My rainfall total so far from this storm was only 0.45” bringing November monthly liquid precipitation total to 1.85”. November average temperature wasn’t as cold as November of last year. I’ve seen many wetter Novembers, especially in 1992 with a record of 8.65”! Also 6”> in a few other Novembers. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 1/2” of slop. Was supposed to be mostly rain.What I thought. You know my opinion of our NWS office. I find it lazy & lame of them when they "final answer" every event 2-3 days out. Not even allowing for further trends inside that window. Nice to see you and others get a nice gift via their bust! Perhaps my expectations are just too high, lol. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Really hoping those bands in NW WI keep their intensity as they rotate in. We might rake this afternoon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Really hoping those bands in NW WI keep their intensity as they rotate in. We might rake this afternoon.Hoping it happens for ya buddy! Just heard a blower fired up here! 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Hoping it happens for ya buddy! Just heard a blower fired up here!Thanks. I’m about to fire up the blower myself. No way I’m attempting to shovel this cement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Was not supposed to snow hereWow! 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Advisory extended until 3pm. I’ll take it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post St Paul Storm Posted December 1, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 As the storm wraps up here, the sun emerges. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 As the storm wraps up here, the sun emerges.Postcard pic! Beautiful. Is that a lake or the Mississippi River? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Getting our first flakes of the system. A pretty decent wrap around snow shower coming through. A dusting of snow is accumulating on parked cars. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 I picked up 0.45" of rain from this system. Update: 0.46" after the evening snow band. I recorded 0.1" of snow as well. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FV-Mike Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Nice to see the white stuff flying again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Acquaintance of mine took following pic before his wife tackled the driveway- (in Duluth). Location: 3 NE HERMANTOWN, MN ( official Duluth total)Amount: 21.7 InchesReport Time: 12:00 pm CST - 12/1/2019Remarks: THIS IS THE 9TH HIGHEST 2 DAY SNOW TOTAL FOR DULUTH. my buddy 7 NW of Two Harbors 20.8" 8 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 LOL! GRR maintains their moniker "home of the 8-10" WWA" PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORTNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI449 PM EST SUN DEC 1 2019..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON.....DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE......REMARKS..0100 PM SNOW WALHALLA 43.95N 86.11W12/01/2019 E10.0 INCH MASON MI PUBLICTWO REPORTS FROM SOUTHEAST MASON COUNTY OF 8TO 10 INCHES OF SNOW. POWER OUTAGESREPORTED. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Postcard pic! Beautiful. Is that a lake or the Mississippi River?Thanks! I live on a lake north of downtown St Paul. It’s fed by the Mississippi though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzman289 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 my brother lives on the north shore of Mille Lacs and he has 12-14 on the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Looks like portions of the Straights region have gotten clocked (aka Duluth'd) with this system! PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORTNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GAYLORD MI938 PM EST SUN DEC 1 2019..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON.....DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE......REMARKS..0800 PM HEAVY SNOW GOULD CITY 46.10N 85.70W12/01/2019 M28.0 INCH MACKINAC MI PUBLIC24 HR TOTAL. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Thanks! I live on a lake north of downtown St Paul. It’s fed by the Mississippi though.How much did you get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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