jaster220 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 That GOM Low bears watching. I suspect surprises by mid to late week. Yep, ICON has it and it snows just east of the Mitt. Talk about getting shafted if that plays out.. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Yep, ICON has it and it snows just east of the Mitt. Talk about getting shafted if that plays out.. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 At that time-stamp it sure does. Then it lifts north over our heads with RAIN! (betta than nada we've got til now tho)Yep, but tbh, I hate getting rain right after a nice, decent snowfall. If that is the case, then, I prefer its all rain instead. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 00z GFS looks like the 12z Euro next Monday, suppressed and weak, becomes a solid storm for the northeast... nothing at all like the ICON. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just about every model showing 1/2” to 1”+ for Iowa city and Cedar Rapids late tomorrow night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 A model I don't recall hearing mentioned before on here is the HREF (Hi-Res Ensemble Forecast). Basically like a high-res SREF I guess. It only goes out 48 hours. https://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/href/?model=href&product=snowfall_024h_max§or=mw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianJK Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Already down to 2F with a wind chill of -16. Heading down to -2F tonight and a high tomorrow of only 3F. We may flirt with 32 on Friday, otherwise we are safely below freezing for at least the next 7 days.What’s average this time of year up there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 The Canadian blasts Kansas next Sunday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Oh Canada! Everyone should love tonight CMC! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Oh Canada! Everyone should love tonight CMC!Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Edit: Canadian blasts a lot of people Canadian and ICON are in reasonable agreement. I wish they had a 48 hour snow map on Pivotal. Here's total snow, but some of this is from other systems. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 a view further east. Too bad the Canadian is never right. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 The GFS is dreamy around Xmas... two snowstorms. Of course they'll be gone next run, but it's fun to look at. 2 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Winds are gusting at 30mph under overcast skies. Arctic air just around the corner about to slam my area. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Down to 19 here...skim ice on the rink already! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 It's currently 20F with a gusty west wind and had some light snow falling. Nice reminder that we are in met Winter. Stepped outside and its a wee bit chilly! Can't imagine what you guys up north are feeling right now....yikes! I just got the chillzzz thinking of subzero air...stay warm! Looks like the Upper MW has Wind Chill Advisories hoisted. MY FORECASTMinneapolis MNFair-3°F 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Last nights Euro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 EPS mean through the 18th 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Euro ensembles through the 18th 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 What’s average this time of year up there?For DEC 10th for MSP-AVG H is 29AVG L is 14 mean of 21F 2 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Here in eastern Iowa we'll have to keep an eye on the Saturday system. It could be a sneaky snow event if everything comes together just right. The 06z GFS just shifted the entire system north by 150+ miles, so who knows. A stronger push of cold behind the Saturday system helps to suppress the Monday system. Then, here is the Euro at day 10. Yuck. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Doesn't say a whole lot but this is the snowiest GFS mean we have had in awhile. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Currently -4F on the backyard station. Forecasted high today lowered to 2F, and only 1F tomorrow. Wind chills to -30F. Hard to believe it’s only Dec 10. Looks and feels like the middle of February. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 After the S.PLAINS event early./mid next week the pattern appears to go pretty quiet and above normal temps for many. The +NAO is not helping matters, perhaps the week of Christmas it will go neutral to negative so until then get what you can get in the next several days. After a very wet FALL- only 1.71" of precip here since NOV 1st- and only .18" in DEC. The timing of cold and moisture here has not been great for appreciable snowfall though DSM is slightly above normal at 7.2" for the year. (5.4") is normal. I guess it could be worse (last DEC) but I bet Jan and Feb don't put down nearly 45" like last year. 3 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Yup DMX says early next week system appears to stay south and weak. No mention of the Icon solution which isnt surprising. They say however fri nite-sat system needs to be watched as it appears to be our best shot of accumulating snow around here for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Currently -4F on the backyard station. Forecasted high today lowered to 2F, and only 1F tomorrow. Wind chills to -30F. Hard to believe it’s only Dec 11. Looks and feels like the middle of February.That should freeze up your lakes and others for the season. Did your lake open back up after that initial freeze in early NOV? The lake I grew up on in New Brighton did- but froze over for good (likely) about 10 days ago. Probably good that many did open back up and refreeze because the initial ice came and than that heavy snow which was bad for good ice. 2 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlgamer Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Oh Canada! Everyone should love tonight CMC! I must admit that I always fall in love with the first model that smiles at me...even though I know they'll dump me for a more northern or southern track in the end. 2 Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 That should freeze up your lakes and others for the season. Did your lake open back up after that initial freeze in early NOV? The lake I grew up on in New Brighton did- but froze over for good (likely) about 10 days ago. Probably good that many did open back up and refreeze because the initial ice came and than that heavy snow which was bad for good ice.I’d say about 80% of the lake opened back up after that early Nov freeze. My entire shoreline opened back up so I should have good ice for the hockey rink. The entire lake refroze a few days after Thanksgiving. The 3+ inches of snow yesterday is bad timing as this brutal cold would have been good for the ice, but the snow has insulated it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 I haven't even had a snow shovel out yet this year cuz any snowfall has been light and melted pretty quickly. I haven't seen any snowplows out in town yet neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormhunter87 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Wpc is buying into Sunday into Monday. Hopefully the icon and the cmc are true. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 NWS Hastings still mentioning snow Sunday. Local mets not too impressed. They say some minor accumulations in Northern Kansas and Southern Nebraska south of I-80 where I live. Their idea is a more progressive, open wave that doesn't stick around long which would limit any more significant accumulations. I guess we'll wait and see. Even if we do get snow, looks above average temps next week so what falls would probably melt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Cloudy w snowshowers around and temps are holding in the low 30s. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 As for the weekend storm, the Euro and GFS are showing this storm system for the OV and the EC 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 NWS Hastings still mentioning snow Sunday. Local mets not too impressed. They say some minor accumulations in Northern Kansas and Southern Nebraska south of I-80 where I live. Their idea is a more progressive, open wave that doesn't stick around long which would limit any more significant accumulations. I guess we'll wait and see. Even if we do get snow, looks above average temps next week so what falls would probably melt.AO and NAO look to get back to neutral by the 16th, hope it's in time to help this system out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just took a snow fall reading and here at my house it is just over a half inch. With snow falling the current temperature is 25 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Icon looking weaker and weaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Doesn't say a whole lot but this is the snowiest GFS mean we have had in awhile. I'll accept it! 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 With yesterdays 0.42” of rain fall Grand Rapids total for the year 2019 is now at 48.60” and that is just 0.20” below the record of 48.80” set in 2008. At this time 2019 is the 2nd wettest year of record here at Grand Rapids. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Saturday system is now vanishing. zzzzz It won't be long before we start punting to January. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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