jaster220 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Glad to see that the snow band held together for you guys out in Iowa. The sun is out and shining here, however it is still windy with snow still blowing around some, and temps are in the upper teens, brrrr! I am really surprised that the local NWS offices in Omaha and Des Moines didn't use the new "Snow Squall Warning" option for a headline... this event surely fits that category, am I right? As I understand it, yes, this is exactly the type of event. Were any of your offices mentioning this potential in their AFD's? Nobody posted such if they were. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Meanwhile, remember "the sky is falling! the sky is falling!" hype for this huge arctic outbreak and crazy LES slam?? GRR .DISCUSSION...(Today through next Sunday)Issued at 321 AM EST Mon Dec 9 2019The primary fcst challenge is the extent of any travel impactsrelated to the incoming cold snap. The lake effect potential withthis system has been looking less impressive with each model runand snow amounts for most areas may very well be under one inch.The problem is the dry air and subsidence associated with thelarge 1040 mb sfc high which builds in from the west. Inversionheights are only around 4K ft in the cold air on Tuesday andWednesday which should really hold down amounts. So despite deltaT`s of 20C or more, this does not look like a big lake effectevent for sw Lwr MI. Total clown office! Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 WWA issued north and west of an IOW-DBQ line for a quick round of heavy snow and a flash freeze. Little/no accum expected. In other news. Massive car pileup in Des Moines. Yikes... https://twitter.com/NStewCBS2/status/1204091492253552641 2 Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 There is a thin band of yellow on radar approaching Cedar Rapids. I hope it holds together. It'd be nice to see a heavy burst. 2 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan1117 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 As I understand it, yes, this is exactly the type of event. Were any of your offices mentioning this potential in their AFD's? Nobody posted such if they were. No mention of it at all... which really surprises me due to the intensity of the brief snow burst and the strong winds, which combined for very low visibility for about 60-90 minutes. The only thing I saw issued from the NWS-Omaha Valley were "Special Weather Statements." Why create a headline and then never use it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan1117 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 There is a thin band of yellow on radar approaching Cedar Rapids. I hope it holds together. It'd be nice to see a heavy burst.It looks like the snow band is thinning out a little bit from what it was earlier this morning, however you should still get a nice burst of moderate to heavy snow and a lot of wind from this thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowawx Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 There is a thin band of yellow on radar approaching Cedar Rapids. I hope it holds together. It'd be nice to see a heavy burst.A snow squall warning was just issued for the CR/IC area. The snow is getting really close to the CR area. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowawx Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Current radar with the snow squall warning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Snow is coming down hard already on the west side. 3 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 This line is moving very quickly. The yellow is already past me. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Here's the University of Iowa webcam to watch the heavy snow move through. http://webcam.iowa.uiowa.edu/live/view.htm 2 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan1117 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 A snow squall warning was just issued for the CR/IC area. The snow is getting really close to the CR area. At least one weather service office in this region knows how to use the snow squall warning headline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 That was one heck of a snow squall. Can’t say I’ve ever heard of a snow squall warning in Iowa. Visibility was down to maybe 200 feet here on the SW side of CR. A light coating of snow fell and temps dropped into the mid 20s. That was a fun few minutes 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 At least one weather service office in this region knows how to use the snow squall warning headline. I believe we had one of those last year in Omaha or somewhere in eastern Nebraska. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Intense wording from NWS: IMPACT...Dangerous life-threatening travel due to visibilitiesbelow a quarter of a mile and icy roads. Severalaccidents have been reported across central Iowa on majorroads and interstates. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Wow down to 19 already. Front means business 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 I believe we had one of those last year in Omaha or somewhere in eastern Nebraska. Perhaps, but it's the first time I've personally seen it on the hazards map for any state! 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 NAM's not to impressive with the LES across SWMI, but the other SR models look pretty decent. Might look a little more like Dec for a couple of days. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 I picked up 0.3" of snow. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMT Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 well, that was fun! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan1117 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 I believe we had one of those last year in Omaha or somewhere in eastern Nebraska.I don't remember the Valley NWS issuing a Snow Squall Warning for the Omaha metro proper, however I might have missed it or maybe it was for another county in the area. I do know that there were ones issued last year in Central and Western Nebraska. Quite the pileup on Westbound I-80 near Altoona, IA (Des Moines metro), 50 cars in total with one serious injury being reported. I can believe it as I was out and about in the snow squall during the morning rush here in Omaha and driving conditions were quite awful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 That was one heck of a snow squall. Can’t say I’ve ever heard of a snow squall warning in Iowa. Visibility was down to maybe 200 feet here on the SW side of CR. A light coating of snow fell and temps dropped into the mid 20s. That was a fun few minutesIt got down to less than that in IC. I couldn't see Jessup hall from Macbride on the pentacrest at times when the wind was really blowing. Picked up a very quick 3/4". 7 Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Both GRR & APX are late with their PM updates. Prolly coordination calls wrt any possible headlines they've been putting off for the LES portion of this event. They just did so as I was posting.. .DISCUSSION...(This evening through next Monday)Issued at 330 PM EST Mon Dec 9 2019First and main order of business in the 7 day forecast is whetheror not we need headlines for the winter weather expected over thecourse of the next couple of days. The short answer is we will notbe issuing any winter headlines with this forecast update.Confidence in seeing winter impacts is low and we therefore haveheld off on Winter Weather headlines. Prolly good news knowing how things work with them.. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Both GRR & APX are late with their PM updates. Prolly coordination calls wrt any possible headlines they've been putting off for the LES portion of this event. They just did so as I was posting.. Prolly good news knowing how things work with them.. Disappointing for sure. Was hoping for some decent LES a few days ago. It will probably be non-event. What a huge "arctic blast". Nothing very cold in the long term. (obviously can change because all the models suck). In fact, just as much chance at rain as snow in the next 7 days. All these long-range forecasts are a joke. Why even bother? Any amateur can guess with the same amount of accuracy as the "experts". AND....rant over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Disappointing for sure. Was hoping for some decent LES a few days ago. It will probably be non-event. What a huge "arctic blast". Nothing very cold in the long term. (obviously can change because all the models suck). In fact, just as much chance at rain as snow in the next 7 days. All these long-range forecasts are a joke. Why even bother? Any amateur can guess with the same amount of accuracy as the "experts". AND....rant over. 100% true! 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Both GRR & APX are late with their PM updates. Prolly coordination calls wrt any possible headlines they've been putting off for the LES portion of this event. They just did so as I was posting.. Prolly good news knowing how things work with them.. ...... 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Pesky snow at MSP has me stuck in Atlanta for a few hours. My in-laws are saying about 3.5” at their place. Temp already down to 12F. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Kinda hard to measure cuz of the wind but I'm going with 0.3" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 This thread says it's thru the 11th so I'm guessing they meant to post the follow-on LES results in here as well. I brushed a solid 1/2" off my car a little after 7 am. Was nice to see legit snow again (at my place ofc) and it was really coming down between Marshall and Jackson for a while. Per the airport Obs it has kept up all morning to varying intensities so I may add to my total for this event. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 LIke I said, positive surprises happen when my office down-plays an event.. .UPDATE...Issued at 1147 AM EST Tue Dec 10 2019Lake effect snow this morning got a boost from a 500mb shortwaveand deeper moisture than was expected going into the event.Snowfall totals range from a dusting to 3 inches across portionsof Western Lower Michigan. The upper shortwave and deeper moisturewill pull off to the east this afternoon, so we expect theintensity in the snow bands to decrease. There may be an expansionin area of snow showers, due to typical diurnal affects, butadditional snowfall this afternoon should be limited, inch or lessin most areas.Going into tonight and Wednesday morning we are expectingcontinued lake effect snow showers, especially in the lakeshorecounties with a westerly winds in the cloud layer of 20-25 knots.There could be a flare up once again late tonight with anothershortwave working through the area. We will take a look at thepotential for any headlines with the afternoon forecast update. Atthis point though we are not expecting significant accumulations.Any headline would be based on travel disruption expectations forthe Wednesday morning commute. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Looks like Marshall getting in on another nice streamer 3 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Looks like Marshall getting in on another nice streamer 20191210 1 pm Radar.pngI was gonna say, earlier I saw the radar and was going to post regarding this as some decent bands were coming off the lake. Nice little surprise. Throughout the morning I’ve been seeing mood flakes but now it’s completely sunny. Enjoy the snow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 I was gonna say, earlier I saw the radar and was going to post regarding this as some decent bands were coming off the lake. Nice little surprise. Throughout the morning I’ve been seeing mood flakes but now it’s completely sunny. Enjoy the snow! Thanks bud, can't wait to see what's happened back at the ranch. We've even had occasional nice rates here in Jackson, tho short duration stuff. Solidly below freezing so it has the winter feel for sure. 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 I don’t think yesterday’s snow was quite as intense, here unless I missed seeing the brunt since it was so brief. Had some huge flakes mixing in which I’ve noticed usually don’t cut down visibility as much as small flakes. I’ve seen higher rates numerous times. Only got a quarter inch of snow out of it. Some mets tweeted it was the first time they issued a snow squall warning for the area. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Much more than just a ground whitening here in Marshall. 2" measured for the day. Everything is nicely white. Due to the warm ground, fluffier snow, and day time event, much of it melted on paved surf's. Almost perfect with grass tips covered w/o the extra work to clean the driveway and walks. My decorations weren't lit when I came home tho. Apparently all that rain yesterday caused the GFI to get triggered. We're safely lit up again now! As mentioned, good things happen when my office poo-poo's an event 4 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mi_Matthew Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Much more than just a ground whitening here in Marshall. 2" measured for the day. Everything is nicely white. Due to the warm ground, fluffier snow, and day time event, much of it melted on paved surf's. Almost perfect with grass tips covered w/o the extra work to clean the driveway and walks. My decorations weren't lit when I came home tho. Apparently all that rain yesterday caused the GFI to get triggered. We're safely lit up again now! As mentioned, good things happen when my office poo-poo's an event Congrats! I awoke this morning (6:45am) to what I can best describe as heavy snow pellets that changed over to some fat dendrites as I drove west into Oakland County for work. Looks like half inch at best but no measurement yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Congrats! I awoke this morning (6:45am) to what I can best describe as heavy snow pellets that changed over to some fat dendrites as I drove west into Oakland County for work. Looks like half inch at best but no measurement yet. Thanks! I was stoked driving to work in the heavier bursts. Dendrites were pouring down under the street lamps. Just what I needed to help this Dec get outta the gutter. I've beaten last Dec as of today plus my office is bullish on another (non-headline worthy) re-invigorating CAA trough to sweep thru via a clipper to our north. It's illustrated pretty well here on the NAM12. Duration looks to be close to 18 hr window. Ofc, it won't snow that entire time, and this air is even drier than today's, but even another 1/2" refresher would be cool. 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 I will say one thing about this season, there's been ample surprises to go around. Apparently the under-forecast LES that started last night even caught the very savvy APX under-playing with a WWA while some in that region got easy Warning amounts. APX on tonight's LES potential: Of course, the issue is, can we get warning amounts (8"+)? It ispossible, and based on this morning`s performance, where it lookslike we got about a foot in NE Kalkaska county, It is notinconceivable. I remember some of those better busts! Best one was a call for 2-4" that turned into 18". And it was NOT a LES event. That was amazing! Iirc, it was 1992 or 93 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 I will say one thing about this season, there's been ample surprises to go around. Apparently the under-forecast LES that started last night even caught the very savvy APX under-playing with a WWA while some in that region got easy Warning amounts. I remember some of those better busts! Best one was a call for 2-4" that turned into 18". And it was NOT a LES event. That was amazing! Iirc, it was 1992 or 93WOW....major bust. Bet someone got fired there 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Much more than just a ground whitening here in Marshall. 2" measured for the day. Everything is nicely white. Due to the warm ground, fluffier snow, and day time event, much of it melted on paved surf's. Almost perfect with grass tips covered w/o the extra work to clean the driveway and walks. My decorations weren't lit when I came home tho. Apparently all that rain yesterday caused the GFI to get triggered. We're safely lit up again now! As mentioned, good things happen when my office poo-poo's an event Congrats buddy! Enjoy it. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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