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You're using a station that NCDC has determined to be malfunctioning...and currently is reading a 4 degree dewpoint..lol. I can tell you that station is worthless.

 

Link the stations you're using. Let's go through all the data. I have a feeling that you're looking at the two malfunctioning stations I showed you.

 

Follow the weather here this summer..you'll see that I'm not BSing you.

 

The first station I used shows a dewpoint of 23 right now.

 

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=McHenry%2C+MD

 

Right in line with all the other stations in the area... which are in the 18-24 degree range.

 

None of the stations in your area had a high temp even close to 90 last July... let alone 97.   Your sensor is in the sun.

 

Your original claim of 11 straight days of 80-degree dewpoints is comically wrong and has never happened there.   Much like your reports 150mph winds and 12 feet of snow.    :lol:

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The first station I used shows a dewpoint of 23 right now.

 

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=McHenry%2C+MD

 

Right in line with all the other stations in the area... which are in the 18-24 degree range.

My station is reading a dewpoint of 34 degrees.

 

Similar to these nearby stations:

http://m.weatherbug.com/MD/McHenry-weather/local-weather/current-conditions/FRNDV

 

http://m.weatherbug.com/MD/McHenry-weather/local-weather/current-conditions/KNGWD

 

Hard to believe it could be that far off. I think I'm going to buy another unit and see what it reads, because it is almost 10yrs old now.

 

Your original claim of 11 straight days of 80-degree dewpoints is comically wrong and has never happened there. Much like your reports 150mph winds and 12 feet of snow.

I've never reported anything close to that. You're nothing but a troll. I always post pictures when I make "notable" claims.

 

Did you see the pics I posted from 2012? The trees sheared off behind my house? The 5 missing shutters ? The PIT NWS confirmed the microburst and estimated it was over 100mph.

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My station is reading a dewpoint of 34 degrees. Similar to this one: http://m.weatherbug.com/MD/McHenry-weather/local-weather/current-conditions/FRNDV Hard to believe it could be that far off. I think I'm going to buy another unit and see what it reads.

 

I've never reported anything close to that. You're nothing but a troll. I always post pictures when I make "big" claims.

 

Did you see the pics I posted from 2012? The PIT NWS confirmed the microburst and estimated it was over 100mph.

 

 

You need to buy new equipment and put it in a correct spot with no exposed solar radiation.

 

You are basing your wild claims on equipment that is misleading you in a big way.

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You need to buy new equipment and put it in a correct spot with no exposed solar radiation.

 

You are basing your wild claims on equipment that is misleading you in a big way.

 

In reality... your location did not even touch 90 degrees last July by the way. I can't find one 90-degree reading in the entire month at any station.

My station was damaged during the 2012 storm, I had to replace the radiation shield, but was told it would be fine. Everything else is was fine, including the anemometer.

 

The "12 feet of snow " comment was uncalled for, and I'd like an apology. I do my best to provide accurate data and posted pics of the damage we dealt with in 2012z. It hurts a bit when you trash me despite the effort I put in here.

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You are basing your wild claims on equipment that is misleading you in a big way.

 

Did my equipment cause this back in 2012? Wild claims, eh? My station recorded a 127mph gust during this storm...I'll let you be the judge.

 

Photos were taken with one of those older cameras that prints out the pictures. I had like 10% battery on my phone & no power, so needed to save it.

 

Before

 

http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww243/phillywillie/Beforepic2_zps5d21b6ef.png

 

After

 

http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww243/phillywillie/Derechopic2_zpsb5f12c42.png

 

 

Before

 

http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww243/phillywillie/Beforepic5_zps2e8fc183.png

 

After

 

http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww243/phillywillie/Derechopic1_zps0e739097.png

 

 

Before

 

http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww243/phillywillie/Beforepic4_zps7e5ae4cb.png

 

 

After

 

http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww243/phillywillie/Derecho4_zpsa020a19b.png

 

http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww243/phillywillie/Derechopic3_zps812518db.png

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06Z GFS looks good for next week... GFS has come into agreement.    And it appears that the original solution by the ECMWF was basically correct.

 

Jesse indicated on Monday that the ECMWF was sending too much energy offshore (which it does at times) and that the ECMWF ensembles showed much lower heights (which they did at that time).

 

But it seems that the operational run earlier this week was ultimately correct despite its known biases and ensembles disagreement.   Just pointing that out for future reference... it does happen sometimes.

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The back and forth is ridiculous. It could have obviously be taken to PM, but since it never was, clearly both of you assume that those of us following this thread care about your little spat, which is quite an insult to us all. 

 

Maybe Tim's daily post count can be limited to a certain number for a normal personal who isn't home all day? That seems to be the common denominator in all the "off the rails" discussions.

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The back and forth is ridiculous. It could have obviously be taken to PM, but since it never was, clearly both of you assume that those of us following this thread care about your little spat, which is quite an insult to us all. 

 

Maybe Tim's daily post count can be limited to a certain number for a normal personal who isn't home all day? That seems to be the common denominator in all the "off the rails" discussions.

 

Just had to call out Phil for his claim of 11 straight days with 80-degree dewpoints.   :)    It went on after that of course since he has to try and defend something that is not possible at his location.     Its more on him.      We can go days on here with very few posts anyways.    This is a very slow time of year in the weather world.  

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Ended up with 1/4" of snow this morning. Already mostly melted though. 36 degrees and partly sunny. The low was 32, just cold enough for it to stick.

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First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 11
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
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12Z Canadian looks great at 144 hours:

 

http://weather.gc.ca/data/model_forecast/colour_images/12_054_G1_north@america@zoomout_I_4PAN_CLASSIC@012_144.jpg

 

 

12Z GFS going back to is previous scenario of crashing the ridge sooner...

 

http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/data/gfs/12/gfs_namer_144_500_vort_ht.gif

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Just had to call out Phil for his claim of 11 straight days with 80-degree dewpoints. :) It went on after that of course since he has to try and defend something that is not possible at his location. Its more on him. We can go days on here with very few posts anyways. This is a very slow time of year in the weather world.

Yes, I was wrong..they peaked in the upper 70s. Huge difference.

 

I took offense to you because you're making up data. You haven't provided a single link except to a station which is constantly 20 degrees off and ruled unreliable by NCDC.

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Yes, I was wrong..they peaked in the upper 70s. Huge difference.

 

I took offense to you because you're making up data. You haven't provided a single link except to a station which is constantly 20 degrees off and ruled unreliable by NCDC.

 

All the stations show the same temperatures.   Its 15 other stations all showing a peak temp in the low to mid 80s last July and your station showing 97.     Which is correct?   :)

 

Also a single peak dewpoint of 78 or 11 days in a row of 80-degree dewpoints?    Big difference.    

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All the stations show the same temperatures. Its 15 other stations all showing a peak temp in the low to mid 80s last July and your station showing 97. Which is correct? :)

 

Also a single peak dewpoint of 78 or 11 days in a row of 80-degree dewpoints? Big difference.

Link me to these 15 stations! That's all I've been asking. How can you make a claim and not source your data?

 

But please don't send me to the same 2 GCA stations that were dropped from the NCDC database.

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This :)

 

You had more posts than me last night.

 

Link to me one other station that had 90+ degree weather around there last July above 1,500 feet.    Just one.

 

I went out into WV and PA for stations relatively close to you at elevations above 1,500 feet and found nothing above 85 last July.    You are at 3,000 feet.   You did not have 97 degrees and with dewpoints in the upper 70s (or whatever) for 11 straight days!    

 

Real bottom line... your area is relatively cool in the summer.    Its a cool haven for people who live in the big cities.    Your complaining is silly and your readings are not accurate.

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You had more posts than me last night.

 

Link to me one other station that had 90+ degree weather around there last July above 1,500 feet.    Just one.

 

I went out into WV and PA for stations relatively close to you at elevations above 1,500 feet and found nothing above 85 last July.    You are at 3,000 feet.   You did not have 97 degrees and with dewpoints in the upper 70s (or whatever) for 11 straight days!    

 

Real bottom line... your area is relatively cool in the summer.    Its a cool haven for people who live in the big cities.    Your complaining is silly and your readings are not accurate.

 

 

Dude look right in front of you.  Garrett College, 2600ft, 94.4 dgerees.  THE END.

 

Much of the data is still crap though, look at some of the dewpoint readings: http://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMDMCHEN1#history/data/s20130425/e20140425/myear

 

Go play with your kids now: http://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMDMCHEN1#history/data/s20130701/e20130731/mtoday

 

High temps last July:

 

15th 92

16th 92

17th 92

18th 94

19th 92

 

 

Are you happy now?

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Dude look right in front of you.  Garrett College, 2600ft, 94.4 dgerees.  THE END.

 

Much of the data is still crap though, look at some of the dewpoint readings: http://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMDMCHEN1#history/data/s20130425/e20140425/myear

 

Go play with your kids now: http://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMDMCHEN1#history/data/s20130701/e20130731/mtoday

 

High temps last July:

 

15th 92

16th 92

17th 92

18th 94

19th 92

 

 

Are you happy now?

 

That is the station I was using last night.   

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That is the station I was using last night.   

 

 

Then why did you lie and claim that temps never rose above 80, when they were clearly in the low-mid 90s over several consecutive days?  The data confirms that. http://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMDMCHEN1#history/data/s20130701/e20130730/mtoday

 

Just admit you're wrong.  I'm not going to lie about my temperatures...that's so stupid.

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No precip sensor at this location:

 

 

If the station doesn't even have a precip sensor, then it's probably not top-of-the-line.  Probably a $50 pesonal weather station.  I have no way of knowing what station that is.  Please link your sources.

 

I've already shown you a functioning station, very close to me, recording several consecutive highs above 92 degrees last summer, peaking at 95. http://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMDMCHEN1#history/data/s20130701/e20130730/mtoday

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If the station doesn't even have a precip sensor, then it's probably not top-of-the-line.  Probably a $50 pesonal weather station.  I have no way of knowing what station that is.  Please link your sources.

 

I've already shown you a functioning station, very close to me, recording several consecutive highs above 92 degrees last summer, peaking at 95. http://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMDMCHEN1#history/data/s20130701/e20130730/mtoday

 

You did not have 11 straight days with dewpoints in the 80s.    Or in the upper 70s even.

 

Its not possible at 3,000 feet.    Its never even happened in DC.

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You did not have 11 straight days with dewpoints in the 80s. Or in the upper 70s even.

 

Its not possible at 3,000 feet. Its never even happened in DC.

I already conceded that I was a bit off. But as the data I posted shows, there were 13 days with dewpoints in the 70s, several in the mid-upper 70s.

 

Peak was 78, which exactly matches my station's max reading.

 

In other words, not a huge difference.

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12Z ECMWF still on board with a full ridge... even the break down looks weak and summer-like next weekend.

 

Nice pattern.

 

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts/d/getchart/catalog/products/forecasts/medium/deterministic/msl_uv850_z500!Geopotential%20500%20hPa%20and%20Temperature%20at%20850%20hPa!144!North%20America!pop!od!oper!public_plots!2014042512!!chart.gif

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Take it to PM.

 

NO ONE HERE CARES, you two.

 

Why is that so difficult to understand? Are both your egos so large that you think we all give a whoopee about this?

Tim is making a mountain out of a molehill, and using fuzzy reasoning to do so.

 

He started this whole shebang. I'm just responding to his accusations, with data.

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I thought you guys were going to continue this via PM?

I made that request twice. Still haven't received a PM from him.

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The 12Z ECMWF does show a quick cool down one week from today... but its basically dry and partly cloudy as the low that crashes the ridge moves north towards AK and not into the PNW.

 

The persistent trough over the PNW the last couple weeks seems to retrograde farther to the NW into the GOA after the ridge breaks down next week.

 

Here is the following Monday:

 

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts/d/getchart/catalog/products/forecasts/medium/deterministic/msl_uv850_z500!Geopotential%20500%20hPa%20and%20Temperature%20at%20850%20hPa!240!North%20America!pop!od!oper!public_plots!2014042512!!chart.gif

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Strange look to the Portlad radar today. Nothing seems to be moving, at least not quickly. Just a bunch of semi-stationary blobs of rain speckled all over the map.

 

 

Same up here.

 

Just diurnally-driven small pop-up showers over the hills.

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I yielded 0.8 of rain from yesterday's morning downpour that was really loud.  We normally don't hear the rain due to the over insulation unless it's a hard downpour.      It actually woke both me and dad up bright and early it was that loud.      It was literally a sheet of rain for an hour.     It was steady rain since 5am according to Dad.        The rain lasted until 9:30ish.  

 

The rest of yesterday was rather dull with only 1.5 hours of sun peeking out but today is much brighter with several outbreaks of sunshine.    Hopefully next week is bright as well with the warm weather and not the cloudy warm which makes the air feel oppressive  and trapped. 

 

It is 55F outside now or 13C if I am correct.      

 

Please keep all arguments between certain people either in a different thread dedicated to the issue or via PM if the other person is able to receive PM's which I have notice people tend to not empty their mail per speak when asking weather questions.

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Also about last Feb's snowstorm *if you can call it that since it wasn't region wide*.    How come those who did get hard didn't have severe power failures?  One would think with that amount of snow many trees would have fallen like the December 2008  snow and ice storm. 

 

Our lights didn't even flicker and in the 08 storm they were out for almost two days.

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I pulled the radar up on my phone and thought something was wrong because nothing was moving.  Perhaps missing frames, but yes, everything seems very stationary.  Very heavy showers in northern Clark County right now.

Strange look to the Portlad radar today. Nothing seems to be moving, at least not quickly. Just a bunch of semi-stationary blobs of rain speckled all over the map.

 

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And the NWS just posted this:

 

KRTX Doppler Radar (our main radar for NW Oregon) is down due to an equipment problem. NWS electronics technicians are en route to make repairs. Radar will likely be down until sometime this evening.

I pulled the radar up on my phone and thought something was wrong because nothing was moving.  Perhaps missing frames, but yes, everything seems very stationary.  Very heavy showers in northern Clark County right now.

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Love it. No sign of major heat building across the Four Corners. Heat building down there early can often be a harbinger of a hot summer for us.

 

 

Not much of anything on those maps... only notable thing is the cold in the same place its been all winter in the first map.

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Also about last Feb's snowstorm *if you can call it that since it wasn't region wide*.    How come those who did get hard didn't have severe power failures?  One would think with that amount of snow many trees would have fallen like the December 2008  snow and ice storm. 

 

Our lights didn't even flicker and in the 08 storm they were out for almost two days.

 

We can't call it a snowstorm because it didn't affect thousands of square miles? It significantly impacted most of SW Washington and the Willamette Valley. It was a major event.

 

Power failure probably wasn't as much of an issue because there wasn't much in the way of ZR, at least in your area.

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Not much of anything on those maps... only notable thing is the cold in the same place its been all winter in the first map.

 

I will take not much of anything over the SW. I always hate to see them fry this early because that means the heat is already anchoring itself out west, and will likely be coming our way in a month or two.

 

I also like the cold anomalies centered over the Northern Rockies. That anomaly placement often results in pretty nice weather for us, ie sunny, seasonable days and cool nights.

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