jaster220 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Uh, yeah! 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Uh, yeah! 20191231 0z ICON h114.pngVery close for a major snowstorm for mby....dang! You look golden. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Uh, yeah! 20191231 0z ICON h114.pngIt really gets cranking up your way! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Very close for a major snowstorm for mby....dang! You look golden. Starts as a lot of rain, but I'd take a rain-to-snow system over pure rainer any day. Also, could trend a tad chillier in the coming days? 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 00z GFS There are a few pieces of energy involved, so the details should continue to change for a couple days. 2 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andie Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Get your lawn chairs out. Looking like there’s gonna be a complete lack of blocking in January too. https://twitter.com/jhomenuk/status/1211753851436580864?s=20We're already seeing shorts and poolside parties. This is simply ridiculous. 1 Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 GFS and ICON have a piece of energy that dives in from the north on the backside of the storm and enhances the snowfall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 00z GFS for the 3rd 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Starts as a lot of rain, but I'd take a rain-to-snow system over pure rainer any day. Also, could trend a tad chillier in the coming days?Exactly, plenty of time for this to change, but hopefully on a snowier note. I mean, getting rain in January is just pure crazy. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Exactly, plenty of time for this to change, but hopefully on a snowier note. I mean, getting rain in January is just pure crazy. NAM only goes to h84, but it clearly shoots 2 waves, the first is a goodly slug-o-rain for the entire Mitt, then it appears to be developing another healthy wave that looks more snowy. I think it was APX mentioning a Clipper coming across ONT that will drape a CF thru the Lakes for the system to work with. Might be just enough colder air if all goes favorably. 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder98 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 It's so weird to see both Alaska and the Upper Midwest + East Coast colored in Blue at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 NAM only goes to h84, but it clearly shoots 2 waves, the first is a goodly slug-o-rain for the entire Mitt, then it appears to be developing another healthy wave that looks more snowy. I think it was APX mentioning a Clipper coming across ONT that will drape a CF thru the Lakes for the system to work with. Might be just enough colder air if all goes favorably. It will turn colder, but I am thinking it might not be cold enough for snow. Perhaps a mix bag of precip. Slopfest could be in the cards, but we will see. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 The Canadian tonight is a bit closer to the other models late this week. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 00z UK is pretty similar. The energy diving in from the nw is weaker and farther west and south, so it never really gets involved and the main system remains weaker. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Tonight's 00z Euro is crap for Friday.... very weak with only scattered light precip. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 00z GEFS for the Jan 3rd-5th storm...I'll prob start a thread later today if trends continue... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 One can dream...prob the best weenie run of the season for the MW/Lower Lakes...00z Euro back with the storm during the 6th-8th period...of note, there has been an uptick in ensembles showing a wrapped up storm and increasing odds, however, we are still 6-7 days away so much can change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 00z Euro going big with the Jan 8th storm 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 00z Euro going big with the Jan 8th stormGlad to see it coming back on the Euro and also the EPS is picking up on it....just checked the 06z GEFS and it's also showing more members with a similar idea. This could be on of those classic KC/ORD/DTX cutters.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Glad to see it coming back on the Euro and also the EPS is picking up on it....just checked the 06z GEFS and it's also showing more members with a similar idea. This could be on of those classic KC/ORD/DTX cutters....That is what I am expecting with this one. I think it will look similar to the Nov 21st version. Did you see the GFS trying to pick up on the cutters toward the end of the run this morning? We have to get the AO and NAO to go negative! How does the MJO look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 That is what I am expecting with this one. I think it will look similar to the Nov 21st version. Did you see the GFS trying to pick up on the cutters toward the end of the run this morning? We have to get the AO and NAO to go negative! How does the MJO look?Yup, there are some big storms on the horizon, esp mid month but I'm worried of hard cutters during the mid month period unless things begin to change in terms of blocking. The MJO is killing us from having a phenomenal pattern I'm afraid. The only glimpse of hope is if the models trend better with the EPO/NAO/AO. Last night, there were some better signals that the EPO relaxes but the SER may be to robust and overcome any cold that wants to press mid month. Those members farther N & W may end up doing very well yet again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Mid January shows temps in the mid to upper 40s w rain. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 00z Euro going big with the Jan 8th stormWow...that is a doozy of a snowstorm. 10+ for many.......... 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 The Friday system is crapping out on some models as the pieces are interacting less. Last night's Euro, the NAM, and now the ICON. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Wow...that is a doozy of a snowstorm. 10+ for many.......... I just hope it's not rain. Teleconnections look terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 I just hope it's not rain. Teleconnections look terrible.Ic.....bummer. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 GFS looks a bit too east for mby Friday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 The Friday system is crapping out on some models as the pieces are interacting less. Last night's Euro, the NAM, and now the ICON.And now the GFS as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Can this pls verify........... Not sure where Tom is exactly on this map, but this crushes his area I would imagine. Also, many others get appreciable snows as well. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowawx Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 The current forecast for Friday here is 40 degrees with rain/snow. This looks to be more of a rain event than snow. Temps appear to be way too warm for snow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Well looks like the 12 ZGFS tured out! Onto the next 10 days… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 40's in the forecast here for the 9th through the 15th.... I normally dont pay attention to accuweather, but there long range has been pretty darn good since mid December 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 40's in the forecast here for the 9th through the 15th.... I normally dont pay attention to accuweather, but there long range has been pretty darn good since mid DecemberYes, I think Accu-weather has gotten a lot better in their forecast, especially long range and short. I kinda trust them more than TWC tbh. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Torchy January after a blazing end to December. At least there is some snow sandwiched in between. Got lucky last night with it, maybe it will happen a day or 2 again this next month. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 12Z GFS with 2-3 FEET of snow for eastern Nebraska/western Iowa.......on the 13-14th of January. Only 348 hours away!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hawkeye Posted December 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 12z UK has lost the Friday system... now just has some rain over the Ohio Valley. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 12z GEFS are advertising the BIG potential for someone across the Plains/MW/Upper MW....possibly the Lower Lakes...during the 10th-15th. In fact, the 12z GFS op flashed my call for a #heartlandblizzard during the 13th-15th. Lots of potential my friends. Just need to be patient with this pattern as it has so much going for to unleash something truly spectacular. I have my concerns for those members across our eastern Sub and of course our southern members who will prob miss out during this period. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 GFS It is the way. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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