bud2380 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Seeing my first flakes of snow finally! Very light, but it's something, LOL. Was hoping to take the kids sledding, but not in the cards. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Very heavy snow falling right now, near white out conditions. I have just under 2 in of snow but an inch of it has fallin in the last 20min. Not much more left to come through but it's going out with a bang. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Very heavy snow falling right now, near white out conditions. I have just under 2 in of snow but an inch of it has fallin in the last 20min. Not much more left to come through but it's going out with a bang.There ya go bud. Enjoy it! 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Mostly sleet and frz drizzle here. Roads are fine Grand Rapids has dodged a bullet in terms of ice. No flakes yet.I hope my area gets no ice. I hate ice!!!! 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 I don’t know if I should use the word “hype” but that sure comes to mind with today’s forecast. And I am not talking about the posters on this or any other blogs I am talking about the NWS. I know that they must error in the name of safety and all but still? I think we ALL pay too much attention to the computer models. Too much is put into trying to have the models do much of the forecasting. I was concerned yesterday when there was talk of a 15 to 30-mile window of where the heaviest ice would be. Now that happens many times but to forecast that is kind of tricky. So bottom line it looks like we have been 2020 1st Winter Storm Warming for a night in the upper 40’s with heavy rain and now what looks to be maybe 2 to 3” of snow and sleet. Like I say this is not finger pointing at any one but I think the NWS takes most of the blame along with the weather models that many of us follow. At this time it is 32 with a light mist falling.There is always hype by those weather offices. I think is just to make people take extra precaution. EDIT: I still cant stop laughing thinking about "Mike Seidal" from TWC when he was reporting during a "Supposed Hurricane" at that moment and he couldn't stand still because of hurricane force winds at the time, meanwhile, in his upper right hand corner, 2 people walked right by him with no problem (as if no wind at all was occurring). What a fool. 3 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FV-Mike Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 LOT's update at noon The primary mid/upper level impulse over eastern KS and western MOwill be our primary feature of interest as we head into thisevening. This feature is expected to track across our area earlythis evening. Meanwhile, at the surface, an area of low pressureover IN will consolidate and strengthen along a surface frontalboundary into the evening as it tracks towards western LakeOntario later in the evening. Enhanced low and mid-level leveldeformation associated with the mid level impulse is alreadydriving a band of moderate to heavy snow across eastern KS andinto western MO. This is likely similar to what much of what ourarea will experience this evening.Overall, it looks like the area will experience a band ofmoderate, to briefly heavy snow, possibly centered right acrossnortheastern IL this evening. We should have a period early thisevening when the combination of strong large scale forced ascentwill coincide with some enhanced lower-mid level frontogenesisalong the track of the 850 to 700 mb low. This in combination withthe presence of some steep mid-level lapse rates, and negative EPVshould support some banding of heavier snow across the area earlythis evening. This will likely result in some snow rates up to, orjust above 1" per hour for a couple hours this evening. While theoverall strongly forced ascent will remain rather progressive(only lasting for a 2 to 3 hour period) total snow amounts of 2 to5 inches will be likely across much of northeastern IL. Thecombination of the heavy snow, and some gusty winds near the lakemay also result in a brief period of near blizzard conditions, butthis should remain brief as wind speeds should be graduallyabating this evening. Expect the snow to come to an end shortlyafter midnight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 LOT's update at noon The primary mid/upper level impulse over eastern KS and western MOwill be our primary feature of interest as we head into thisevening. This feature is expected to track across our area earlythis evening. Meanwhile, at the surface, an area of low pressureover IN will consolidate and strengthen along a surface frontalboundary into the evening as it tracks towards western LakeOntario later in the evening. Enhanced low and mid-level leveldeformation associated with the mid level impulse is alreadydriving a band of moderate to heavy snow across eastern KS andinto western MO. This is likely similar to what much of what ourarea will experience this evening. Overall, it looks like the area will experience a band ofmoderate, to briefly heavy snow, possibly centered right acrossnortheastern IL this evening. We should have a period early thisevening when the combination of strong large scale forced ascentwill coincide with some enhanced lower-mid level frontogenesisalong the track of the 850 to 700 mb low. This in combination withthe presence of some steep mid-level lapse rates, and negative EPVshould support some banding of heavier snow across the area earlythis evening. This will likely result in some snow rates up to, orjust above 1" per hour for a couple hours this evening. While theoverall strongly forced ascent will remain rather progressive(only lasting for a 2 to 3 hour period) total snow amounts of 2 to5 inches will be likely across much of northeastern IL. Thecombination of the heavy snow, and some gusty winds near the lakemay also result in a brief period of near blizzard conditions, butthis should remain brief as wind speeds should be graduallyabating this evening. Expect the snow to come to an end shortlyafter midnight.Sweet! Enjoy it. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Clinton---how are ya coping w this storm. Did ya get any measurable snow or ice? Flooding? 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMB443 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 I don’t know if I should use the word “hype” but that sure comes to mind with today’s forecast. And I am not talking about the posters on this or any other blogs I am talking about the NWS. I know that they must error in the name of safety and all but still? I think we ALL pay too much attention to the computer models. Too much is put into trying to have the models do much of the forecasting. I was concerned yesterday when there was talk of a 15 to 30-mile window of where the heaviest ice would be. Now that happens many times but to forecast that is kind of tricky. So bottom line it looks like we have been 2020 1st Winter Storm Warming for a night in the upper 40’s with heavy rain and now what looks to be maybe 2 to 3” of snow and sleet. Like I say this is not finger pointing at any one but I think the NWS takes most of the blame along with the weather models that many of us follow. At this time it is 32 with a light mist falling.As I watch this storm dissolve into next to nothing I was thinking similar thoughts - it seems as if most forecast discussions are “this model says x, this model says y - we’ve blended them together and will update as the new runs come in.” One of things I appreciate about this forum is people using modes as a tool, rather than a crutch - I suspect too little actual forecasting goes into the forecasts and more reporting models goes on without applying them as tools combined with knowledge and experience to produce a real forecast. I often feel better informed by following you all here then I do listening the NWS forecasts. I’m not trying to simply criticize but like many things today we’ve handed over our thought process to what computers say, this is just an example of it - there is a real place for experience and knowledge that no computer can imitate. It has a piece of this puzzle but not the whole puzzle and too often forecast discussions become lazy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSmokey Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Clinton---how are ya coping w this storm. Did ya get any measurable snow or ice? Flooding?I’m in Overland Park, KS near I-35 corridor and got 3-4 inches of nice powder on top of our ice/sleet mix from yesterday. I’ll take it! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmesnow Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 As I watch this storm dissolve into next to nothing I was thinking similar thoughts - it seems as if most forecast discussions are “this model says x, this model says y - we’ve blended them together and will update as the new runs come in.” One of things I appreciate about this forum is people using modes as a tool, rather than a crutch - I suspect too little actual forecasting goes into the forecasts and more reporting models goes on without applying them as tools combined with knowledge and experience to produce a real forecast. I often feel better informed by following you all here then I do listening the NWS forecasts. I’m not trying to simply criticize but like many things today we’ve handed over our thought process to what computers say, this is just an example of it - there is a real place for experience and knowledge that no computer can imitate. It has a piece of this puzzle but not the whole puzzle and too often forecast discussions become lazy.I think a lot of meteorologists suffer from what journalists do. They make more money and advance their careers by being dramatic actors that bend the truth to make a better story than doing their jobs properly. You see it with Weather Channel, I where, but I remember seeing a clip of a Weather Channel guy in a storm leaning over and acting like all hell was breaking loose, only to have some people walk casually behind them. Or another where they were focused on a "huge flood" that was the lowest point in the whole area. It's almost guaranteed the first potential snow event of a year (or in a few weeks) will be completely over-hyped by those types. It gets them views and clicks, it's almost like clickbait for the weather. The people here are doing it because they like to discuss these things. They want to learn, they don't get anything. All I get out of posting here is knowledge and some arbitrary numbers increasing like my post count, and maybe people will like my post. It's not like I'm getting money or building a brand/blog/etc. Just an off-topic vent, but it's something I've noticed. Whenever we haven't had a winter storm in a while, I basically 100% assume that when they say big snow, it's going to be a massive disappointment. Because they just wanted to get people worked up. And they can get away with being 100% wrong with meteorology, unlike other fields. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 I think a lot of meteorologists suffer from what journalists do. They make more money and advance their careers by being dramatic actors that bend the truth to make a better story than doing their jobs properly. You see it with Weather Channel, I where, but I remember seeing a clip of a Weather Channel guy in a storm leaning over and acting like all hell was breaking loose, only to have some people walk casually behind them. Or another where they were focused on a "huge flood" that was the lowest point in the whole area. It's almost guaranteed the first potential snow event of a year (or in a few weeks) will be completely over-hyped by those types. It gets them views and clicks, it's almost like clickbait for the weather. The people here are doing it because they like to discuss these things. They want to learn, they don't get anything. All I get out of posting here is knowledge and some arbitrary numbers increasing like my post count, and maybe people will like my post. It's not like I'm getting money or building a brand/blog/etc. Just an off-topic vent, but it's something I've noticed. Whenever we haven't had a winter storm in a while, I basically 100% assume that when they say big snow, it's going to be a massive disappointment. Because they just wanted to get people worked up. And they can get away with being 100% wrong with meteorology, unlike other fields.I don't think NWS mets have much to gain from hyping Winter Storm events like TV mets do. They have more to lose than anything, as they are the top weather authority and they need to keep the public's trust. 5 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowawx Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Snow is starting to fill in to the southwest of Cedar Rapids and moving northeast. It looks like wave #2 will bring some snow to our area. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE Wisconsin Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 I'm watching the radar trends and it seems as though the best moisture and snow is going to be riding just south and east of where the WSWs have been posted. I'm still hoping I at least get enough snow to cover the grass. But I'm beginning to lose hope for even that much. I kissed the 8-10 goodbye several hours ago! The way this winter is progressing, I'll be thrilled with 1-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMB443 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 You see it on this board! Human nature, I guess. Everything has to historic, epic and the most-destructive possible for the blood thirsty crowd that need the most people possible suffering for their hobby.What was your user name last year when you came on to troll the board? I can’t remember now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzman289 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 It was a female name i believe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE Wisconsin Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Snow is starting to fill in to the southwest of Cedar Rapids and moving northeast. It looks like wave #2 will bring some snow to our area.That's good to hear. Maybe there is still hope for some decent snow in my neck of the woods. Please, at least enough to cover up that ugly, brown, dead grass! Please!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Notjoebastardi. Remember his 3 posts last winter? Very similar... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FV-Mike Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Radar filling in nicely to the west. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmesnow Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 WSW downgraded to 2 to 4 for me. Looks like the apocalypse the 10 inches of snow I was hoping for will never come, I'm so sad now! Maybe the next horrific 8+ snow event will take out more people 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerwx Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 You see it on this board! Human nature, I guess. Everything has to historic, epic and the most-destructive possible for the blood thirsty crowd that need the most people possible suffering for their hobby.How appropriate you have Beetlejuice as your avatar, as you clearly have the same IQ as him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Clinton---how are ya coping w this storm. Did ya get any measurable snow or ice? Flooding?All of the above. Storm is over here picked up 1.80 inches of rain, 1/4 of ice and sleet and 2.8 inches of snow. All and all a very nice storm. Good luck to you tonight. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 It was a female name i believeNah, you're thinking of a different one. That was Tabitha. 5 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Defo band is intensifying nicely...it continues to snow here lightly from the lake effect snow showers coming off the lake...I've notice they are getting a bit better developed as the column of air cools aloft. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 All of the above. Storm is over here picked up 1.80 inches of rain, 1/4 of ice and sleet and 2.8 inches of snow. All and all a very nice storm. Good luck to you tonight.Wow... A little bit of everything! Congrats amigo! Thnx..I really do hope I don't get any ice w that second batch coming tanite. They are saying a switch to snow later on this evening as well. A rapid freeze is on tap also. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 You see it on this board! Human nature, I guess. Everything has to historic, epic and the most-destructive possible for the blood thirsty crowd that need the most people possible suffering for their hobby.Know how I quit getting offended?Quit going places, doing things, reading things or talking to people about topics I know will offend me. You know where the search bar is on your browser don't you? #problemsolved 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 There are literally ZERO people I talk to on here or consider friends on here who want a single person to suffer or die. I know it. Take that crap out of here. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 I’m in Overland Park, KS near I-35 corridor and got 3-4 inches of nice powder on top of our ice/sleet mix from yesterday. I’ll take it!I'm happy with this storm. Now we can set are sights on the 21st and 22nd for a potential major storm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Defo band is intensifying nicely...it continues to snow here lightly from the lake effect snow showers coming off the lake...I've notice they are getting a bit better developed as the column of air cools aloft.Good luck to you Tom w this snow tanite. Hope ya score. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 I’m in Overland Park, KS near I-35 corridor and got 3-4 inches of nice powder on top of our ice/sleet mix from yesterday. I’ll take it!Sweet. Congrats! 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 I don’t know if I should use the word “hype” but that sure comes to mind with today’s forecast. And I am not talking about the posters on this or any other blogs I am talking about the NWS. I know that they must error in the name of safety and all but still? I think we ALL pay too much attention to the computer models. Too much is put into trying to have the models do much of the forecasting. I was concerned yesterday when there was talk of a 15 to 30-mile window of where the heaviest ice would be. Now that happens many times but to forecast that is kind of tricky. So bottom line it looks like we have been 2020 1st Winter Storm Warming for a night in the upper 40’s with heavy rain and now what looks to be maybe 2 to 3” of snow and sleet. Like I say this is not finger pointing at any one but I think the NWS takes most of the blame along with the weather models that many of us follow. At this time it is 32 with a light mist falling. ^^ Closest I've seen you to a legit rant post, but you may end up with more snow than that so stay tuned. I totally agree with you on some points and disagree on others. As said originally, I don't think a Watch down my way was ever warranted. I felt that 2 counties north should've been the southern boundary with a WWA bordering the upgrade to warning if it was needed. They also were very trigger-happy to begin the warning a day before impactful winter weather, another questionable decision. Why not leave the hydro warnings up with a Storm Watch behind it for later. Same thing with rolling winds into a WWA last event at NYE. In GRR's defense with this event tho, they were not the only office botching headlines. They were just one of many. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Good luck to you Tom w this snow tanite. Hope ya score.Thank you sir! I'm getting a bit excited seeing how the radar is blossoming. My goodness, the winds have been non stop roaring all day. Once the snow arrives, it's going to look amazing. Just from the LES, I've picked up 0.5" so far...does anyone else in Cook/DuPage or even Will county have anything to report thus far? @Scascia, seems like Elmwood Park should be getting some decent snowfall rates right now...how's it going out there? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 All of the above. Storm is over here picked up 1.80 inches of rain, 1/4 of ice and sleet and 2.8 inches of snow. All and all a very nice storm. Good luck to you tonight. Congrats on scoring a storm bud. Does it look wintry now? So far, I've beat your rain total and while I was busy snoozing I see some mix coated roofs and grass here (not sure the amount). I'd like to get your amount of snow as well to refresh plow piles around town. They've gotten so small it's easy to miss them. 3 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Congrats on scoring a storm bud. Does it look wintry now? So far, I've beat your rain total and while I was busy snoozing I see some mix coated roofs and grass here (not sure the amount). I'd like to get your amount of snow as well to refresh plow piles around town. They've gotten so small it's easy to miss them. It looks great the ice provided a nice base for the snow to accumulate on. Even though it was a powdery snow it has the appearance of a wet snow, very cool looking. I think you have a good shot at beating my snow total as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Wow... A little bit of everything! Congrats amigo! Thnx..I really do hope I don't get any ice w that second batch coming tanite. They are saying a switch to snow later on this evening as well. A rapid freeze is on tap as also. Hey buddy. I really think this has trended away from the typical ice storm into a 2-part rain, then snow event. That's the good news here as well. The forecast had me a bit nervous tbh. I very narrowly missed the Dec 2013 bad ice storm by half a county. Winter 2006-07 delivered multiple bad ice storms, one that I tried to get killed in by driving my car through a fallen tree. But we've had no bad ones here since so it makes me feel we could be over-due here. But, ice storms seem to more prevalent in colder winters not warm like we have. Anyways, good luck later on. Hope we both can grab some snow later on tonight! 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Nah, you're thinking of a different one. That was Tabitha. Wow..how the heck did ya remember that. Ya have good memory I see. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 It looks great the ice provided a nice base for the snow to accumulate on. Even though it was a powdery snow it has the appearance of a wet snow, very cool looking. I think you have a good shot at beating my snow total as well. Well, my office says "NO" to my hopes: In areas from Kalamazoo to Lansing and southeast, the burst ofprecip this evening into tonight will be predominantly sleet withsome freezing rain, changing over to snow around midnight beforeending prior to daybreak. Those earlier snow maps showing a rather narrow stipe of good snow along the NW periphery might just have been onto something. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Hey buddy. I really think this has trended away from the typical ice storm into a 2-part rain, then snow event. That's the good news here as well. The forecast had me a bit nervous tbh. I very narrowly missed the Dec 2013 bad ice storm by half a county. Winter 2006-07 delivered multiple bad ice storms, one that I tried to get killed in by driving my car through a fallen tree. But we've had no bad ones here since so it makes me feel we could be over-due here. But, ice storms seem to more prevalent in colder winters not warm like we have. Anyways, good luck later on. Hope we both can grab some snow later on tonight! So far, so good, thankfully. Ice is no joking matter. Hopefully, it will skip the ice part and go straight to snow when it switches. Can ya imagine tomorrow morning you look out ya window and you see a "Winter Wonderland"....now, that would be a great finish to this storm. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Been down to 32F here since 4:30 with some mix reported by the unit, and some light snow obs. Per reports, things continue to go more easterly with the main wave, so GFS could still be my "friend-in-the-end" 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 So far, so good, thankfully. Ice is no joking matter. Hopefully, it will skip the ice part and go straight to snow when it switches. Can ya imagine tomorrow morning you look out ya window and you see a "Winter Wonderland"....now, that would be a great finish to this storm. 18z NAM3k to Niko "I read you loud-n-clear, over" Been down to 32F here since 4:30 with some mix reported by the unit, and some light snow obs. Per reports, things continue to go more easterly with the main wave, so GFS could still be my "friend-in-the-end" Go NAM! 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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