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Measure where it's sticking.

Obviously. What I meant to saw is its sticking more on top of the thicker snowcover and only a lil on the patio table and somewhat on the driveway. I measured on the part of driveway that had a thin layer of crust from last storm. Tried to measure just the fresh snow on top of it. Bare cement was really not sticking yet.

 

After the sun went down it started sticking on patio table. Had a good burst around suppertime. All that being said I measured 1.4" a while ago.

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As the 18z Euro back-pedaled hard, this looks to be a snoozer loser for SCMI. My office earlier was giving me a glimmer of hope indicating that there was at least one snowy option on the table. I'm sure that's now been yanked off the table. Oh well, temps under-performed today so winter was 5 days this year. 

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Rain/snow line that far South? Are they high?

Thats a little too far south.....I think R/SN line will be border of OH/MI, if not slightly more north

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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:lol:  :lol:  :lol: Pretty much sums up our winter

 

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Look like maybe a few inches. Lol. Not exactly a great storm. Hopefully i get some work out of it. We in the snow industry are not having a great year so far.

 

Trade you in a heartbeat for 3-5" 

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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With the way all the past storms have gone. Im gonna say that 3-5 ends up being 2 or 3. Over the coarse of three days. And with snow falling during the daytime hours. Im not optimistic it amounts to very much.

 

This is the official map.

 

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Short range models actually look lame for tomorrow and not the usual outrageous totals. I figured the RAP would show like 7" for Lincoln but it only has a dusting, which is the likely outcome. 

Snowfall in Lincoln, NE:

2017-18: 21.4"   2018-19: 55.5"   2019-20: 17.6"   2020-21: 49.4"   2021-22: 5.1" 🤮

Average: 26"

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My total is at 2.2".  The HRRR and NAM suggested light snow may continue to redevelop over us for much of the night, but it seems the snow has largely pushed north and east of CR.

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season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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00z EPS/Control...seems like the trend is for the models taking the defo band right through MO/IL/WI...like I said before, 4-6" with local 8" is what I'm going with as a grand total for N IL.  Hopefully some of those higher end totals transpire since most of the heavier snows will fall Friday night into Sat am.

 

 

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LOT just posted their AFD and targeting the Friday night period for the best snows....

 

 

 

Models continue to
indicate the potential for deformation band to develop late
Friday/Friday night, which looks to enhance precipitation rates
especially across northern IL.
Thermal profiles start to cool late
in the afternoon as low level flow backs north and northwesterly
into Friday evening. Precipitation, which mixes or changes to rain
during the day Friday will then trend back toward snow Friday
night as the column cools from the west. Some evidence is noted in
guidance of vort energy wrapping cyclonically around upper low
across the cwa overnight, which may further aid precipitation
rates
. While surface temps are still progged to be near freezing,
the cooling column should allow for a trend back to more snow
overnight, with the potential for several inches of accumulation.
 
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06z GEFS...literally the "Perfect Pivot" for N IL....might be an all-nighter for this "guy" if the models continue to show a slow & strong defo band across IL Friday night.

 

 

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I hope you get it man, the models actually look better this morning than they did yesterday evening.

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6z NAM may be a bit over done but feel that it's a good thing that it trending snowier compared to the last couple of runs.

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Gone much snowier for SWMI too. Keep going east lol

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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The second wave of these 2-wave events sure aren't panning out too well for Iowa.  They keep whiffing southeast after days with us in the bulls-eye.  I should still get something, though.

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season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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NOAA:
 

The best shot for snow comes late Friday night into Saturday as the
thermal profile becomes slightly modified and cools.
Saturation will
be favorable as the column should be moist through the lowest 500mb.The broad
cyclonic low will be very slow to shift east Saturday night as the
longwave feature pivots significantly more than it translates. This
lends at least chance PoPs for most localities through Sunday
morning with assorted p-types.

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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