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We're at 46*   Low the next few nights 40* 

 

Rain will be coming in this evening and continue through 2-3 days with 2" expected.

Some local flooding. 

 

Winter isn't done yet!

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2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4*

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I have noticed that the sun angle is now much more noticeable! Sign of Spring!

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024:

Season So Far: 26.7"

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I never give up on winter- no matter the "winter" - until late March / early April. Too many big storms can happen even in a quiet year here in IA.  But after that; you won't see me here until next Fall as SVR weather  is both WAY overdone in forecasted by NWS and SPC. Esp compared to winter SVR weather.   I will only chase a MOD/HIGH in summer and then only if I'am near the center of the cone. It's a waste  unless you can make $$ on it. Driving 100's of miles to see a wall cloud that by chance I can see without driving and staying home  (and same chance of seeing a tornado) is not worth it. Summer time forecasted SVR weather is overrated much like big time forecasted  snow storms in the Plains.. I need to move -- to -- where? Probably stay here and roll the dice.

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 A lot of my snow otg is taking a beating today as temps creep up into the mid to upper 30s and w that higher sun angle this time of the year, its really doing the damage. :blink:

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024:

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Hope you can score as much as you can Andie!

Rain coming in with ice and snow in the Oanhandle. It's looking like, at least through the forecasts, that we'll get rain into Wednesday morning.

It's already quite dark as it's moving into the DFw area right now. Temps still at 46. Won't move much.

 

It's long overdue that we got some winter weather.

 

Question: will we see a very dry spring down here ?

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2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4*

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EC with a major snow with the storm due in the 21st, 22nd time frame.  LRC would support a cutter so hopefully those on the western side of the sub can get a big one.

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Haha, they always get the "big ones". We'd like in on those too ya know?  ;)

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Forecast was for a high temp of 33F...not happening!  Right now my temp is 38F with intermittent clouds.  The snow from yesterday is long gone and snow piles are dwindling a slow death.

 

The warmth is unstoppable this winter. That's quite surprising tho tbh. Did a bit better here wrt losing snow. The above freezing was 7 hrs overnight Sun/early Monday thus minimizing daytime effects. I do see signs of continued loss from underneath (open puddles, grass starting to show, etc.) due to the barely cold enough soil temps. Plenty of piles still and they grew with the dense 1+ inch added on to them. Monday actually stayed AOB freezing during daylight hours in Marshall surprisingly!

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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The warmth is unstoppable this winter. That's quite surprising tho tbh. Did a bit better here wrt losing snow. The above freezing was 7 hrs overnight Sun/early Monday thus minimizing daytime effects. I do see signs of continued loss from underneath (open puddles, grass starting to show, etc.) due to the barely cold enough soil temps. Plenty of piles still and they grew with the dense 1+ inch added on to them. Monday actually stayed AOB freezing during daylight hours in Marshall. 

 

Five F-1's here. You can't make it up...

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The warmth is unstoppable this winter. That's quite surprising tho tbh. Did a bit better here wrt losing snow. The above freezing was 7 hrs overnight Sun/early Monday thus minimizing daytime effects. I do see signs of continued loss from underneath (open puddles, grass starting to show, etc.) due to the barely cold enough soil temps. Plenty of piles still and they grew with the dense 1+ inch added on to them. Monday actually stayed AOB freezing during daylight hours in Marshall surprisingly!

I would gladly trade last years pattern to the one we are in now...at least we had some real winter for more than a couple of days in late Jan and throughout Feb even though we missed out on the big storms.

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The warmth is unstoppable this winter. That's quite surprising tho tbh. Did a bit better here wrt losing snow. The above freezing was 7 hrs overnight Sun/early Monday thus minimizing daytime effects. I do see signs of continued loss from underneath (open puddles, grass starting to show, etc.) due to the barely cold enough soil temps. Plenty of piles still and they grew with the dense 1+ inch added on to them. Monday actually stayed AOB freezing during daylight hours in Marshall surprisingly!

There is still a solid 4" on the ground here. While not a lot by local standards and if you look at it from a different perspective Grand Rapids seasonal total of 42.7" while well below average for here is for many locations a full season of snow fall. Of course GR is on track for around 50 to 55" for this winter season and that is more the 20" below average.

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There is still a solid 4" on the ground here. While not a lot by local standards and if you look at it from a different perspective Grand Rapids seasonal total of 42.7" while well below average for here is for many locations a full season of snow fall. Of course GR is on track for around 50 to 55" for this winter season and that is more the 20" below average.

 

I've recorded 38.5" here on the NE side.  (less lake influence, though there hasn't been much this year).  It feels way more below average than that.  I feel bad for those that don't average this much snow in a season.  

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By the end of next week, temps warm up into the mid 40s. Yikes!

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024:

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Two days below freezing Friday/Sat.  Could that be the last Highs below freezing the rest of the winter???? We haven't had many as it is.  

I wouldn't be surprised if its the last of this Winter season.

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024:

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Its 38F currently and going for a high of 40F. It feels so nice outside. Walked outta the gym just now and it felt fantastiko!! :)

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024:

Season So Far: 26.7"

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.87” rain so far today. More coming in this afternoon. Line of showers to our SW

 

42*. Wintry day for Texas.

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2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4*

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Saw a report the AO hit it's highest level ever on Monday.... Beat a record from 1990.

Here's a link (below) discussing this.  A few interesting quotes:

 

"The most recently observed Arctic Oscillation is the highest daily value in our historical record (6.34), breaking the past record from February 26th, 1990 (5.91)."

 

"Projections of the AO show it remaining strongly positive into early March and then trending toward more of a weakly positive phase by late March. If these projections are correct, they would offer little promise for sustained severe winter weather in the mid-latitudes..."

 

"The strongly positive AO this winter fits into a pattern of the past several winters, which have also seen this generally mild pattern prevail. “We haven’t had a truly negative AO winter since 2012-2013,” said Judah Cohen, a meteorologist at Atmospheric and Environmental Research, in an interview."

 

It also seems to me that we haven't had a sustained negative NAO during winter for quite some time either, but I don't have any data handy to confirm that one way or another. Hopefully we get some "real" winters again soon.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2020/02/10/record-arctic-oscillation/

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23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24)

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Two days below freezing Friday/Sat.  Could that be the last Highs below freezing the rest of the winter???? We haven't had many as it is.  

 

I've had 17 for Met winter plus 3 in the historic Nov blast = 20 total to date. Have zero idea what the actual avg or record fewest might be. One stat I was never interested in! 

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Nice read - thanks amigo!  

 

On the former SMI forum, I was one of, if not the oldest regular poster. I was always chided when mentioning that winters in my youth were worse. It was chalked-up to "fish story syndrome" where the fish that got away gets a little bigger with each passing year of telling the tale. Well, a little nugget found in Deedler's stat write-up confirms my memory was indeed accurate and not just hyperbole. 

 

My folk's place was about 10 miles directly downwind from KFNT so storms rolling thru the county meant we got pretty much what was recorded there. 

 

You can see from this stat, winter during my 6th grade (1975-76) was the snowiest start for that region, even beating 2013-14 by a notable margin thru January. That's saying something! Now keep in mind, that was on the heels of 1974-75, the former record snowiest winter at KFNT (with almost 84" until 2013-14 eventually surpassed by season's end). 

 

KFNT Snowiest Starts list.PNG

 

Add to this the fact that the next (3) winters 77/78/79 were the infamous trio of worst winters in history for the GL's region wrt cold &/or snow and you understand that for my locale, it was really more like the "Fab Five" historic winters in a row! 

 

Ofc, the caveat is that as a younger kid just growing up, I thought all of that historic stuff was "normal", lol. It was only much later that I came to know and fully appreciate the extreme uniqueness of that stretch of winter bliss. 

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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One heck of a day tomorrow here. High temps peak around 30F in the morning and then by tomorrow night the wind chill will be approaching -30F. That’s some hardcore February action.

 

Wind chill advisory just issued.

My point nws forecast for Wednesday night...

 

Wednesday Night

Partly cloudy, with a low around -29. North northwest wind 6 to 14 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph.

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I've had 17 for Met winter plus 3 in the historic Nov blast = 20 total to date. Have zero idea what the actual avg or record fewest might be. One stat I was never interested in! 

For Grand Rapids the average number of days with a maximum of 32 or less is 54 the. So far this year GR is at 19 days the record low number is 18 set in the winter of 2011/12. Other years with a low number that I can find are the winters of 1931/32 and 2011/12 with 27. I know you were not interested in this but hey you brought up a good point.

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