snowstorm83 Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 GFS looks good for our Texas member at least. DFW gets blasted on Wednesday. 1 Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 00z ICON big hit esp for Tom and Jaster. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 GDR for the WIN!!! 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 GDR for the WIN!!! The GFS has done gone mad. Smashes Texas throw it out! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mi_Matthew Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 I can't even defend it anymore. You're on your own GFS! Unless you're right... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 The GFS has done gone mad. Smashes Texas throw it out! 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 It seems the GFS and Euro have actually trended towards the CMC. Even DMX a couple days ago basically threw it out. Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 00z ICON looking interesting... Might be the nicest run for Chicago yet! 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 CMC also hammers N.TX Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mi_Matthew Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 CMC also hammers N.TXYep. GFS may have found company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 Other than the ICON at long range (your on your own with that) today's theme has been suppression of the 2nd piece of energy. And basically no first wave. So ya got that going for ya - which is nice. 2 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 00z CMC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 00z UK 3 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Snowman Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 Steep hill to climb when only the ICON's showing a snowy solution White flag's waving 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 With the incredible run to run inconsistency being shown by all models it’s hard to trust anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 Well, the Euro ain't giving up, yet. 3 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 00z Euro...will you be my Hero??? Given the incredible differences among all the models, the Euro has been the most consistent. Actually, both the Euro/Ukie have been on board with a similar scenario except the fact that the Ukie is about a few hundred miles east compared to the Euro. The Ukie is not backing down on an amped up storm dropping down into the low 970's. Ride the Euro/Ukie until things change? 00z GEFS....either this will be a big coupe or bust but the trend is weaker and SE... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wxmidatlantic Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 This whole deal is up in the air. Looks like a lot of us will be pulling our hair out. Good luck my friend.... 1 Quote A Navy Chief said, "Never change your forecast. That way you can only be wrong once." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 06 GFS not buying into the Euro. BIG differences. Neither does mby little of anything but the GFS has sniffed more out than what most think on past systems. I have no clue other than the GFS has been better within 96 hours than I can remember. 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 I took a look at all the 51 members of the EPS ensembles and many of them show a similar signature per the Ukie (plenty of 980's/970's mixed in) and tracking up the OHV. I'm seeing a trend among the members phasing the storm as it tracks up the west side of the App's/OHV. My original thoughts stand and that this storm has more tricks up its sleeves. That ridge to the east of the storm is ideal for a system to go neg tilt. Haven't seen a set up like this all season long and it's intriguing to say the least. Could this finally be the beast?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wxmidatlantic Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 12Z run is going to be big! Things should settle down. As an aside: I too am empessesd with the GFS, aka, the old man. Quote A Navy Chief said, "Never change your forecast. That way you can only be wrong once." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wxmidatlantic Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 Erie still looks like pivot point. Quote A Navy Chief said, "Never change your forecast. That way you can only be wrong once." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintbeed1993 Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 This piece of garbage doesn't even deserve it's own thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wxmidatlantic Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 This piece of garbage doesn't even deserve it's own threadWeather is all about volatility. If you could look at this synopsis and not create a thread, you are ignorant. Everyone is a great weatherman 12 hrs out.... 1 Quote A Navy Chief said, "Never change your forecast. That way you can only be wrong once." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wxmidatlantic Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 I hate it when the ***** goes away., Quote A Navy Chief said, "Never change your forecast. That way you can only be wrong once." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 6z Euro at hr 90 looks great for mby. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wxmidatlantic Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 I'm waiting., https://youtu.be/Owe3kuOntxc Quote A Navy Chief said, "Never change your forecast. That way you can only be wrong once." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 6z ICON has snow still falling east of the Mississippi and looks a lot like the Ukie. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 6z EC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 6z EPS mean 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 Is Andie gonna steal my snow??? Lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 This storm is beyond weird. Everyday the main energy seems to delay even more. Initially models showed snow breaking out Monday. Now it might be Thursday before we see the heaviest snow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 This piece of garbage doesn't even deserve it's own thread Why? Because the action has shifted away from yby? This whole season has been trash for model performance/thread creation (except the 1/17-18th). It's almost a lock that as soon as a thread trigger gets pulled, the models immediately begin backpedaling on their initial portrayals. It's gotten to the point where just discussing in the general thd might not be a bad thing, and when it's "game-time" just do an OBS thread. These multi-wave scenarios have been too much for the models and not a single one has really brought much here (2" on the NYE secondary). Maybe we on the east end finally, after waiting all winter, get one of these to deliver the goods. Thx for your post tho. Gave me a chance to speak my mind on the sad shape of storm tracking. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wxmidatlantic Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 https://youtu.be/Wb0Jmy-JYbA Quote A Navy Chief said, "Never change your forecast. That way you can only be wrong once." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wxmidatlantic Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 Reallity rolls. Sometimes we just cry., https://youtu.be/tOCCvN8YDuc Quote A Navy Chief said, "Never change your forecast. That way you can only be wrong once." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 I took a look at all the 51 members of the EPS ensembles and many of them show a similar signature per the Ukie (plenty of 980's/970's mixed in) and tracking up the OHV. I'm seeing a trend among the members phasing the storm as it tracks up the west side of the App's/OHV. My original thoughts stand and that this storm has more tricks up its sleeves. That ridge to the east of the storm is ideal for a system to go neg tilt. Haven't seen a set up like this all season long and it's intriguing to say the least. Could this finally be the beast?? Great post buddy! The primary issue during DJ has been lack of adequate cold infusion. How are the thermals looking per your review? Hopefully better than the marginal conditions common with all previous events around here. As for the status of the current threat. Imho, unless this just goes "poof" due to a lack of cold or phasing, all the globals are currently showing a decent to possibly big storm. GFS furthest E, Euro furthest W with ICON/UK/GGEM somewhere in between. Am I reading that correctly? I like where we sit attm, especially if you split the difference between the Euro/UKie for heaviest swath: 3 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 The Ukie is not backing down on an amped up storm dropping down into the low 970's. Ride the Euro/Ukie until things change? Is there a place to see the UK with it's surface reflection of the SLP? Not finding it on Pivotal. -Thx 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 Ok, so I did find one map selection with the UK MSLP (tho I was hoping to see the precip type/shield style). And as Tom already pointed out, while both the Euro and Ukie want to get this down to low 970's they are a long ways apart geographically speaking. Euro UK So, attm we have decent agreement on a strong system with placement/timing to be dialed-in. Alright, I've had my best fun tracking a potential since Nov. Models are free to destroy my hopes again with the 18z suite.. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 6Z EURO at 90HR looks impressive w the position of the low. A ton of moisture and the GOM is open for business as well. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 12z ICON 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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