Stormy Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 I’m liking the wetter trends on the WPC. Also, chances of thunder have increased some for Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 Welcome to Daylight Savings! #SpringForward...while ya'll lost 1 hour of sleep, the state of AZ is one of the 2 states (including Hawaii) that does not participate in Daylight Savings Time. It's starting to look more likely that the idea of "Wasted Cold" will take hold starting later this week and the following week. Where was this monster -EPO during the Winter??? Glad I made the trip out here to spend time with the fam and enjoy the warmth. Where is that dude @IowaWx??? March 2012 redux = Fail...IMO 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaWX82 Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 Welcome to Daylight Savings! #SpringForward...while ya'll lost 1 hour of sleep, the state of AZ is one of the 2 states (including Hawaii) that does not participate in Daylight Savings Time. It's starting to look more likely that the idea of "Wasted Cold" will take hold starting later this week and the following week. Where was this monster -EPO during the Winter??? Glad I made the trip out here to spend time with the fam and enjoy the warmth. Where is that dude @IowaWx??? March 2012 redux = Fail...IMOI never called for it to be like March 2012. I am enjoying these ABOVE AVERAGE temps to start March, however. Actually has an early-spring feel to it which is nice since we haven’t had that the past few years. I’ll take the high-road here and not mention the constant doubling down of your “epically” awful winter forecast. I’ll just say that I would be embarrassed to show my face around these parts had I been that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 I never called for it to be like March 2012. I am enjoying these ABOVE AVERAGE temps to start March, however. Actually has an early-spring feel to it which is nice since we haven’t had that the past few years. I’ll take the high-road here and not mention the constant doubling down of your “epically” awful winter forecast. I’ll just say that I would be embarrassed to show my face around these parts had I been that bad.At the end of the day, Nature will always have the final say...I learned a lot of valuable lessons as I'm sure many professional mets did this season. While you only came on here touting how bad the predictions were, not once did you make any forecasts. It shows weakness when all you do is call someone out. I hold my head up high every single day and appreciate hearing all the constructive criticism along the bumpy road this past cold season. It's all good in my book...as they say, "live and learn"... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmesnow Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 I never called for it to be like March 2012. I am enjoying these ABOVE AVERAGE temps to start March, however. Actually has an early-spring feel to it which is nice since we haven’t had that the past few years. I’ll take the high-road here and not mention the constant doubling down of your “epically” awful winter forecast. I’ll just say that I would be embarrassed to show my face around these parts had I been that bad.Maybe you should spend your time around more professional meteorologists instead of staying on a forum for people who want to learn and discuss the weather? Do you think this is some sort of secret place on the internet that's better than the major weather outlets? It's for people who want to learn and discuss their own theories and observations. Tom's always optimistic about winter, but even if his forecasts aren't right and can bust, you can learn a lot from his posts. Once I started to treat this place as a resource to learn about weather I grew on it far more. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 Today will be the warmest day of the year so far. Enjoy it. The GFS is cold and kinda snowy after mid month. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaWX82 Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 Maybe you should spend your time around more professional meteorologists instead of staying on a forum for people who want to learn and discuss the weather? Do you think this is some sort of secret place on the internet that's better than the major weather outlets? It's for people who want to learn and discuss their own theories and observations. Tom's always optimistic about winter, but even if his forecasts aren't right and can bust, you can learn a lot from his posts. Once I started to treat this place as a resource to learn about weather I grew on it far more.It’s a forum for cold and snow fanatics to get together to post ways they may get the worst, most-destructive, weather possible. There’s no learning going on here; nobody is looking to get things right. Just looking for the 1 percent chance of “epic” or the “b word”. I stumbled upon this place years ago looking for info as to when the lake in my backyard was going to thaw and I could get my boat ready. Instead, I found what appeared to be what I thought were well-argued reasons why it would stay cold. It took a bit, but I realized that well-argued meant cherry-picked models to confirm cold biases. I am the voice of the voiceless. I am the guy who stops by looking for better info than what the news or weather app on the phone is offering. To all of those people: I will continue to fight for you as the winter-warrior-wishcasters try to present their dream scenarios as facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 It’s a forum for cold and snow fanatics to get together to post ways they may get the worst, most-destructive, weather possible. There’s no learning going on here; nobody is looking to get things right. Just looking for the 1 percent chance of “epic” or the “b word”. I stumbled upon this place years ago looking for info as to when the lake in my backyard was going to thaw and I could get my boat ready. Instead, I found what appeared to be what I thought were well-argued reasons why it would stay cold. It took a bit, but I realized that well-argued meant cherry-picked models to confirm cold biases. I am the voice of the voiceless. I am the guy who stops by looking for better info than what the news or weather app on the phone is offering. To all of those people: I will continue to fight for you as the winter-warrior-wishcasters try to present their dream scenarios as facts.If your a "voice for the voiceless", then start speaking for that crowd and start stating your opinions or your long range predictions. Until then, your "voice" or lack thereof, is meaningless....just my 2 cents... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 Another clue that the models may continue the colder trend in future runs...Euro MJO trying to hint at a "Tour de Cold Phases"...1/2/3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 I'm really looking forward to tomorrow. Models have increased rainfall totals around here, now up to 0.75-1.00", with a bit more in a few lucky spots. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowawx Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 It is a nice day outside today, but the winds are fairly gusty. I am looking forward to getting a good soaking rain tommrow. I see the GFS has another snowstorm next weekend. It has gotten to the point where I really don't want to see anymore snow this winter. March snowfall doesn't last very long and often has a hard time accumulating because of the stronger sun angle, so hopefully next weekend is just rain around here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKEKC Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 Careful Tom, we have been fooled by the MJO/EPO forecasts since Nov. Like you said, where were you this winter??? Maybe we have some fun the second half of the month. I appreciate your energy and love your forecasting, yes, it was a bumpy winter with regards to some forecasts, but, you did accurately predict many weather changes dating back to October. I love reading your posts and will continue to do so. At least you own a bad forecast, Lezak has had a tough forecasting winter also, but he won’t own it, he’ll try to spin it to make it look accurate. He has a real problem with that. Look forward to your future posts with this possible wintry change coming up. Who will score late in the game?? Clinton...fire up the snow maps, we haven’t had a chance to do so the last 3 weeks or so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 The op Euro has backed off the mid-month cold again. It continues to gradually sag the possible snow system farther south. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 Not excited for rain very often but this is one of those times. There hasn't been appreciable precipitation since the mid January slop show and I'm tired of the red flag warnings. 3 Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 Several locations in southern Iowa are hitting 70º this afternoon. We have a couple degrees to go here in CR. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 It is now at 65 here at my house. Officially 62 at GRR Today will be at least the 5th (tie) warmest March 8 in Grand Rapids history. (64 in 2012 is the 4th warmest) 78 in 2000 is the warmest, 71 in 2016 is the 2nd warmest and 70 in 1987 is the warmest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 73.4 so far today. Looking forward to the rain tonight. Would be nice to get a 1/2” or more 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan1117 Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 73.4 so far today. Looking forward to the rain tonight. Would be nice to get a 1/2” or moreLoving this weather! And I am also looking forward to seeing some decent rainfall later tonight and tomorrow. If we get some appreciable moisture, things should really start greening up around here in the next week or two. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 Long range cold bias turns warmer. Rinse repeat this year. Trends are better than models. Edit: not blaming anyone. Just the models. Specifically GFS. Model is broken past a week. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaWX82 Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 Long range cold bias turns warmer. Rinse repeat this year. Trends are better than models. Edit: not blaming anyone. Just the models. Specifically GFS. Model is broken past a week.LOL! But I was told just this morning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmesnow Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 Sorry, but I hope this rain can under-perform. Next weekend they are going to have a big raffle, log jam, and other stuff going on at my hill. But it's all going to be canceled if they can't salvage the snow after the rain. After next weekend I'm ready for rain and the lake to thaw out. I snowboarded so much this winter, I feel pretty content. Today was quite nice though, Snowpants and a t-shirt for the afternoon. I feel like last spring I didn't get a very nice end, warm days like this are really bittersweet.But it's way better than it being cold and then the hill suddenly being closed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 If I had a complaint, it would be the wind. Gusts to 40-45 mph both days kind of makes it unpleasant even with the warmer temperatures. In fact once the sun went behind the houses we put on sweatshirts bc of the wind even when it was still in the 60s. Loving this weather! And I am also looking forward to seeing some decent rainfall later tonight and tomorrow. If we get some appreciable moisture, things should really start greening up around here in the next week or two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 Maxed out at 59.7*F here today. Went for a walk, as did the entire population it seems. A bit breezy, but it's worth it. The trees look like they're trying to start up. Some even have buds. Might we have leaves by April? 55.9*F. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 We hit 70º this afternoon, beating pretty much every model. The Euro had us maxing at 63º. The rain is only 6-8 hours away. The dewpoint is still only 28º, so it will moisten up in a hurry late tonight. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 It hit 71° here today. Very nice except for the wind which was plenty strong. I also noticed that 4 years ago today it hit 72° with a low only in the 50°s. Was a little strange that the dew point dropped again in the late afternoon. Relative humidity was the lowest its been since last June. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Noticed a few lightning strikes just occurred in se. Ne. and e. Co. as I was checking out a map just now. It’s nothing much, but thought it’s neat that it happened just as I was looking for the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Heard thunder quite a few times after 2:30am for the first time in over 3 months. Also was lucky enough to get a few little downpours with max wind gusts around 42 mph likely due to evaporational cooling or whatever you call it. Top gust yesterday was only 38 mph. I was up to 0.20” when I last checked after 3:00 am. with quite a bit more since then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 I was awaken by one little rumble. Unfortunately, the heavy rain veered northeast through the Iowa City/North Liberty area and bypassed Cedar Rapids. It should just be light rain the rest of the day. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 At this time it is 51 both here at my house and at GRR a very warm morning for early March here in west Michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Hit a high of 61F here yesterday. It also marked the first day since Nov 25 that we have had less than 1” of snow on the ground. The run lasted 98 days. No complaints here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 It was still 55° when I returned home from St Paul last night at 10:30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 70 degrees the last 2 days. Right now at 8 AM, it is 32 degrees with a heavy sleet falling with winds gusting to 30 MPH. Life on the Central Plains. I also see that the 0Z Ukie and Euro want to paint a snow storm across Nebraska this Saturday. We'll see. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 I am up to around 0.80" so far. That heavy rain early on gave me a head start. Didn't really have that much since 5am. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 I am up to around 0.80" of so far. That heavy rain early on gave me a head start. Didn't really have that much since 5am. I missed out on the heavy rain band, so I'm at only 0.32". The rain has been very light since I woke up. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 What a disappointment. So far only have .07" of rain. 34 degrees 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 What a disappointment. So far only have .07" of rain. 34 degrees It has been a rough couple of months if you crave exciting weather... especially if you live in Nebraska. 6 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormhunter87 Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 At least we are getting some rain. We have been so dry. Looks like a return to normal temps for March for the next two weeks. Well a couple dips but also some moisture. I will say yesterday.was very enjoyable. First time this year I got to play some paintball which was nice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmesnow Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Forecasted amounts of rain just keep going up. They are claiming over an inch now. We're in trouble for snowboarding. Warm weather also sent 15 people through the ice on my lake last night. No one died but it was quite the ordeal, they had the air boat out and a lot of rescue people here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormhunter87 Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Interesting majority of the models showing some snow. Lol might even the best we have seen this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 36 and rain. Gross 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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