Pacific Northwest Weather -June 2023

[BLI snowman]

For those craving year round snow/ice at lower elevations, the Guler Ice Caves near Trout Lake may be worth checking out. Just bring a head lamp and watch your step. Also did a quick pit stop at Panther Creek on the way home.

 

[TT-SEA]

2 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Seems the earth is literally on fire and Tbag is loving it. 

Abag.  

[Cascadia_Wx]

1 minute ago, BLI snowman said:

For those craving year round snow/ice at lower elevations, the Guler Ice Caves near Trout Lake may be worth checking out. Just bring a head lamp and watch your step. Also did a quick pit stop at Panther Creek on the way home.

 

Love Guler Ice caves. It’s always nice to get in there early in the season before the ice formations are broken up too much by vandals.

I know there was a company out of The Dalles that harvested ice out of the cave in the late 1800s. Interesting to think how useful a year round ice source like that was before refrigeration was invented.

[BLI snowman]

Just now, Cascadia_Wx said:

Love Guler Ice caves. It’s always nice to get in there early in the season before the ice formations are broken up too much by vandals.

I know there was a company out of The Dalles that harvested ice out of the cave in the late 1800s. Interesting to think how useful a year round ice source like that was before refrigeration was invented.

Yeah, I saw it mentioned that Hood River and The Dalles both used to get their summer ice supply from there.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

3 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Love Guler Ice caves. It’s always nice to get in there early in the season before the ice formations are broken up too much by vandals.

I know there was a company out of The Dalles that harvested ice out of the cave in the late 1800s. Interesting to think how useful a year round ice source like that was before refrigeration was invented.

Wonder how these natural wonders will respond to our climates RAPID warming?!

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Wonder how these natural wonders will respond to our climates RAPID warming?!

LIA was pretty rough on humanity overall.  In general... we are better off now that we have come out of it.   Ice caves notwithstanding. 

[Phil]

12z EPS does look more Jesse-favorable in the LR.

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, Phil said:

12z EPS does look more Jesse-favorable in the LR.

EPS shows 74 at SEA on the last day of the run.    Its 66 at SEA at 1 p.m. and its a perfect day in my opinion.    Does that mean its also Tim-favorable?  

Side note... most of the WB maps aren't updating for the Euro suite of models but enough are to see its showing NW flow in the long range.

[ShawniganLake]

BC has just crossed 1 million acres of forest burned this season so far.  Very early for numbers like that. 

[Phil]

11 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

EPS shows 74 at SEA on the last day of the run.    Its 66 at SEA at 1 p.m. and its a perfect day in my opinion.    Does that mean its also Tim-favorable?  

Side note... most of the WB maps aren't updating for the Euro suite of models but enough are to see its showing NW flow in the long range.

Yeah 500mb heights stopped loading on WxBell a couple hours ago. Not sure why.

Definitely more NW-flow members in the LR, though still two clusters of MJO solutions. MJO/low pass decoherence would support the termination of the W-Canada ridge in mid-June, so that is what I expect will happen.

[Cascadia_Wx]

22 minutes ago, Phil said:

12z EPS does look more Jesse-favorable in the LR.

Eh, it keeps things on the warm side through about day 10. Anything beyond day ten I consider to be highly changeable noise even with the EPS.  It is nice to see that mini cool down showing up next weekend though, for now.

[TT-SEA]

20 minutes ago, Phil said:

Yeah 500mb heights stopped loading on WxBell a couple hours ago. Not sure why.

Definitely more NW-flow members in the LR, though still two clusters of MJO solutions. MJO/low pass decoherence would support the termination of the W-Canada ridge in mid-June, so that is what I expect will happen.

At least the 850mb temp maps updated. Definitely looks farther west with the ridge in the long range.  

[Anti Marine Layer]

6 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

At least the 850mb temp maps updated. Definitely looks farther west with the ridge in the long range.  

With those temperature anomalies California could get highs in the mid 50s at the coast and upper 70s in Palm Springs. 

It could also destroy the inversion.

[Phil]

I guess eastern Canada is the source of the incessant smoke/haze over the last few weeks? Bizarre stuff, usually CA is the source and it’s confined to the 2nd half of summer.

Shawnigan would be lovin’ life right now.

[TT-SEA]

7 minutes ago, Phil said:

I guess eastern Canada is the source of the incessant smoke/haze over the last few weeks? Bizarre stuff, usually CA is the source and it’s confined to the 2nd half of summer.

Shawnigan would be lovin’ life right now.

We posted about this earlier.   And just keep your beautiful east coast pollution to yourself please!

[SnowWillarrive]

9 minutes ago, Phil said:

I guess eastern Canada is the source of the incessant smoke/haze over the last few weeks? Bizarre stuff, usually CA is the source and it’s confined to the 2nd half of summer.

Shawnigan would be lovin’ life right now.

Nova Scotia is having some fairly large fires. 

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Absolutely beautiful day. A slight breeze and sunny 72F.

[Phil]

7 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

We posted about this earlier.   And just keep your beautiful east coast pollution to yourself please!

Touché.

[Anti Marine Layer]

2 hours ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Yeah but there have been lots of morning clouds lately in one of the most famously sunny and pleasant climates in North America. Really gotta feel for those guys  

At very least it warrants the creation of about a dozen different threads.

More than just morning clouds. From May 23 to June 1 there was no sun at all. On May 31 the marine layer was so deep it was seeping over the mountains into the desert like a waterfall.

 

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

Chilly nights. Getting dry here. Grass staring to turn

[TigerWoodsLibido]

16 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Chilly nights. Getting dry here. Grass staring to turn

Yeah it’s all cracked and dry here. Underbrush is becoming a tinderbox.

[TT-SEA]

58 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Chilly nights. Getting dry here. Grass staring to turn

Those temps are so cold... its really a different world there.   

[Anti Marine Layer]

1 hour ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Chilly nights. Getting dry here. Grass staring to turn

Close to the ocean?

[MV_snow]

2 hours ago, Phil said:

I guess eastern Canada is the source of the incessant smoke/haze over the last few weeks? Bizarre stuff, usually CA is the source and it’s confined to the 2nd half of summer.

Shawnigan would be lovin’ life right now.

I remember Spring was fire season when I lived in northern New England, after the snow melt but before the summer green up and return of humidity. Still, the green up should have happened even as far north as Nova Scotia by now, so there must be an epic drought up there to cause these fires.

[Anti Marine Layer]

Boomers have dropped the temperature into the low 50s at Lake Tahoe.

[Phil]

3 minutes ago, MV_snow said:

I remember Spring was fire season when I lived in northern New England, after the snow melt but before the summer green up and return of humidity. Still, the green up should have happened even as far north as Nova Scotia by now, so there must be an epic drought up there to cause these fires.

It just refuses to rain (or snow) in eastern North America this year. Have never seen so many cloudless days in the springtime before.

Top-5 driest Jan-May in DC going back to the mid-19th century. June and July are supposed to be the wettest months of the year here, but there is little if any hope on guidance right now. If something doesn’t change soon, 2023 will vault to #1 on that list.

[TT-SEA]

Really see the difference on the current temp map... the Strait keeps it quite chilly up there compared to the EPSL.    Probably makes a big difference for gardening too.

[Phil]

Look at all that nasty shit. Come on Canadians, get your act together already.

I count at least 15 plumes with several new ones popping up in just the last 6hrs.

[TT-SEA]

70/52 at SEA today.   Looks like 72 for a high in North Bend.

[Anti Marine Layer]

9 minutes ago, Phil said:

Look at all that nasty . Come on Canadians, get your act together already.

I count at least 15 plumes with several new ones popping up in just the last 6hrs.

Not as much smoke as the West Coast September 2020 fires

[Phil]

5 hours ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I’ve sure been hating the Euro lately.

I call him Dr. No for a reason.

[T-Town]

Glorious evening here. 70 degrees and breezy. 

[Phil]

4 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

Not as much smoke as the West Coast September 2020 fires

That was like the hurricane Katrina of regional firestorms. The fact that comparison is being made at all speaks volumes.

[TT-SEA]

6 minutes ago, T-Town said:

Glorious evening here. 70 degrees and breezy. 

The south Sound is place to be near the water in my opinion... much warmer than the WA coast or the Strait.    We have been toying with the idea of living on the water in Gig Harbor or Fox Island.    Mostly inspired by your views! 

[T-Town]

6 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

The south Sound is place to be near the water in my opinion... much warmer than the WA coast or the Strait.    We have been toying with the idea of living on the water in Gig Harbor or Fox Island.    Mostly inspired by your views! 

Go for it!  Gig Harbor is kind of congested for me. Fox Island is beautiful and still only 15 or 20 minutes to all the amenities you need. 

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

1 hour ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

Close to the ocean?

At 1000’ elevation. About 15 miles from the coast

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

Those temps are so cold... its really a different world there.   

It has been an odd spring here

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

44 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Really see the difference on the current temp map... the Strait keeps it quite chilly up there compared to the EPSL.    Probably makes a big difference for gardening too.

Unfortunately moderates temps in winter. At my elevation I usually get the best of both worlds, colder than coast in winter, warmer because further from cooling winds in summer

[Deweydog]

Been a windy month or so.

[Anti Marine Layer]

29 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

It has been an odd spring here

Whole West Coast has had an odd spring with California and the PNW being polar opposites.