TigerWoodsLibido 5633 Posted May 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 Can we pls pin this, Fred? 3 Quote Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats: Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21) Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26) Days with below freezing temps: 36 (Most recent: Feb 24, 2021) Days with sub-40F highs: 3 (Most recent: Dec 24) Total snowfall: 0.0" Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7" GoFundMe: www.gofundme.com/CollegeBasketballvsEpilepsy My Twitter @357jerseys4hope 24 Link to post Share on other sites
Jesse 8952 Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 That’s some shitbox ATF thinking right there. Drop and give me 50.Well that’s pretty much all he said. Which is fine by me. I’m down with some ridges as long as we get some cooler and wetter periods in between. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Timmy_Supercell 2237 Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 Nice... 8 Quote Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR ------------------------------------------------------------------- Snowfall (with % of seasonal average) 2010-2011 - 60.70" (168%) 2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%) 2012-2013 - 25.10" (70%) 2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%) 2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%) 2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%) 2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%) 2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%) 2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%) 2019-2020 - 37.00" (103%) 2020-2021 - 15.20" Nov '20 - 00.20" (5%) Dec '20 - 04.40" (44%) Jan '21 - 03.50" (29%) Feb '21 - 07.10" (78%) Mar '21 - T" 2021 Thunderstorms --/--, Biggest Snowstorm - 18.4" (Jan 3-4 2017 - 26 hours) Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019) Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 6.00" (01/16/2020), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012) Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 13.00" (01/16/2020), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012) T'storm Days: 10 (2020), 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 12 (2017), 13 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011) 1980-2015 Avg = 12 Severe T'storms: 6 (08/05/2020), (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) "Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016) Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports) (06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011) Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgeWx 236 Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 Always been a fan of Tiger. His personal issues in the late 2000s still make me laugh and yet I genuinely feel bad for the guy for going through it. Him winning the Masters last year was one of my favorite sports moments ever.Fan of him too, best golfer of all time. You could say his libido has helped him on the field but got him in trouble off of it . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesse 8952 Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 Even though it doesn’t do it in quite the same manner as the operational, the 12z EPS wants to break the ridge down by days 9-10. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jginmartini 3832 Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 Should be some garden variety storms around tomorrow at the very least. No 5/4/17 repeat from the looks of it.Looking forward to this!!! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TacomaWaWx 4428 Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 Looking forward to this!!! Same here, could be pretty interesting. 3 Quote Cold season stats Coldest low-25 Coldest high-32 Freezes-16 Monthly rainfall-0.82” Cold season rainfall-32.91” Snowfall-15.5” Link to post Share on other sites
TacomaWaWx 4428 Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 Up to 63 now...high clouds have been slowly increasing. Looking forward to what should be the most interesting weather we’ve had in some time. Quote Cold season stats Coldest low-25 Coldest high-32 Freezes-16 Monthly rainfall-0.82” Cold season rainfall-32.91” Snowfall-15.5” Link to post Share on other sites
GHweatherChris 3525 Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 Storm for tomorrow looks convective on satellite. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frontal Snowsquall 2620 Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 The 18z HRDPS shows a nice squall line tomorrow afternoon. 2 Quote <p><font size="3"><font color="purple"><b>Isaiah 26:20 Come, my people, enter your chambers, and shut your doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until the wrath is past.</font></b></font></font> Link to post Share on other sites
Jesse 8952 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Wow, high temps actually underachieved by a couple degrees today. Good note to start the month on! 62/37 here today. Sunny morning turning mostly cloudy by early afternoon with some light rain showers at times. Have picked up .02” so far. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TacomaWaWx 4428 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Port orchard area pretty much always gets strong thunderstorms in these set ups. 3 Quote Cold season stats Coldest low-25 Coldest high-32 Freezes-16 Monthly rainfall-0.82” Cold season rainfall-32.91” Snowfall-15.5” Link to post Share on other sites
TacomaWaWx 4428 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 63/39 today...no rain here yet. Quote Cold season stats Coldest low-25 Coldest high-32 Freezes-16 Monthly rainfall-0.82” Cold season rainfall-32.91” Snowfall-15.5” Link to post Share on other sites
iFred 5194 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Quarantine brain and a few sleep poor nights due to work has made today feel more like April 31st than May 1st. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesse 8952 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Quarantine brain and a few sleep poor nights due to work has made today feel more like April 31st than May 1st.I thought it was March 62nd. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seattleweatherguy 483 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Storm for tomorrow looks convective on satellite. Look south of Bothell closer to Tacoma Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GHweatherChris 3525 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Look south of Bothell closer to Tacoma I am looking at the system still well offshore that will be bring the chance for thunderstorms tomorrow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jginmartini 3832 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 I am looking at the system still well offshore that will be bring the chance for thunderstorms tomorrow.Something big out there 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgeWx 236 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Nice... I like the chances of thunderstorms west of the Cascades 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgeWx 236 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 The 18z HRDPS shows a nice squall line tomorrow afternoon. Impressive would see strong gusts with it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgeWx 236 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Something big out thereAre you sure it’s not december? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BLI snowman 6818 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 00z NAM looking a little more favorable for something to pop late morning, shows some pretty strong convection along the front. Good dynamics with the unusually strong low, would be great if we had a little more warm air and surface based instability to work with ahead of it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frontal Snowsquall 2620 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Quarantine brain and a few sleep poor nights due to work has made today feel more like April 31st than May 1st.Good day tomorrow to lay in bed and enjoy the soaking! 1 Quote <p><font size="3"><font color="purple"><b>Isaiah 26:20 Come, my people, enter your chambers, and shut your doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until the wrath is past.</font></b></font></font> Link to post Share on other sites
Frontal Snowsquall 2620 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 Quote <p><font size="3"><font color="purple"><b>Isaiah 26:20 Come, my people, enter your chambers, and shut your doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until the wrath is past.</font></b></font></font> Link to post Share on other sites
TacomaWaWx 4428 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 00z NAM looking a little more favorable for something to pop late morning, shows some pretty strong convection along the front. Good dynamics with the unusually strong low, would be great if we had a little more warm air and surface based instability to work with ahead of it. 00znam050220.png Hope for some clearing in the AM...could be interesting. First week of May looks more interesting than 4 out of the last 5 years. Quote Cold season stats Coldest low-25 Coldest high-32 Freezes-16 Monthly rainfall-0.82” Cold season rainfall-32.91” Snowfall-15.5” Link to post Share on other sites
Jginmartini 3832 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Looks like a Sou'wester! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TigerWoodsLibido 5633 Posted May 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Hope I can break my not seeing a lightning bolt streak that stretches all the way back to...December. Yup. Prior to that it was August, 2006. Quote Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats: Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21) Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26) Days with below freezing temps: 36 (Most recent: Feb 24, 2021) Days with sub-40F highs: 3 (Most recent: Dec 24) Total snowfall: 0.0" Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7" GoFundMe: www.gofundme.com/CollegeBasketballvsEpilepsy My Twitter @357jerseys4hope 24 Link to post Share on other sites
Requiem 2648 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 It's pouring here....none of the models even advertised showers at this time. Maybe I'm just trying to put meaning where there isn't any but I feel that the atmosphere is certainly energized in advance of the front tomorrow...could see some fun gusty winds and strong downpours. 1 Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 11798 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 It's pouring here....none of the models even advertised showers at this time. Maybe I'm just trying to put meaning where there isn't any but I feel that the atmosphere is certainly energized in advance of the front tomorrow...could see some fun gusty winds and strong downpours.We call that “crapvection” out here. Overturns and stabilizes the atmosphere before the best forcing arrives. Though I guess that comparison only applies in a highly CAPE dependent situation. Quote Personal Weather Station: NOAA: https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/timeseries.php?sid=F3819&num=168&banner=NONE Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62/graph/2019-08-23/2019-08-23/daily Link to post Share on other sites
Timmy_Supercell 2237 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 00z NAM looking a little more favorable for something to pop late morning, shows some pretty strong convection along the front. Good dynamics with the unusually strong low, would be great if we had a little more warm air and surface based instability to work with ahead of it. 00znam050220.png That image reminds me of the March 2011 squall line. That one did stretch all the way down to Eureka, CA and it all formed over the waters in the late AM. It held together for hours and triggered marine warnings. 2 Quote Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR ------------------------------------------------------------------- Snowfall (with % of seasonal average) 2010-2011 - 60.70" (168%) 2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%) 2012-2013 - 25.10" (70%) 2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%) 2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%) 2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%) 2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%) 2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%) 2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%) 2019-2020 - 37.00" (103%) 2020-2021 - 15.20" Nov '20 - 00.20" (5%) Dec '20 - 04.40" (44%) Jan '21 - 03.50" (29%) Feb '21 - 07.10" (78%) Mar '21 - T" 2021 Thunderstorms --/--, Biggest Snowstorm - 18.4" (Jan 3-4 2017 - 26 hours) Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019) Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 6.00" (01/16/2020), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012) Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 13.00" (01/16/2020), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012) T'storm Days: 10 (2020), 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 12 (2017), 13 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011) 1980-2015 Avg = 12 Severe T'storms: 6 (08/05/2020), (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) "Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016) Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports) (06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011) Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 11798 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Here comes the upwelling wave: 1 Quote Personal Weather Station: NOAA: https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/timeseries.php?sid=F3819&num=168&banner=NONE Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62/graph/2019-08-23/2019-08-23/daily Link to post Share on other sites
TacomaWaWx 4428 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Have picked up 0.06” this morning...52 and cloudy currently. The front offshore looks nice...going to be an interesting day (or two) of weather coming. Quote Cold season stats Coldest low-25 Coldest high-32 Freezes-16 Monthly rainfall-0.82” Cold season rainfall-32.91” Snowfall-15.5” Link to post Share on other sites
Jginmartini 3832 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Models showing the line moving through between 1 and 2 this afternoon..08 so far here for the morning. Heavy shower went through 330 amCurrently 50* 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3764 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 00Z EPS keeps the cold signal over the Midwest and NE through the long range... Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
TacomaWaWx 4428 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Radar looking active already... 1 Quote Cold season stats Coldest low-25 Coldest high-32 Freezes-16 Monthly rainfall-0.82” Cold season rainfall-32.91” Snowfall-15.5” Link to post Share on other sites
Jginmartini 3832 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Nebraska is the winner! No lightning strikes according to this map yet in the PNW Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iFred 5194 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Opened the window this morning and the air felt moist. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El_Nina 1184 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 0.09" overnight here. May's total has begun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TigerWoodsLibido 5633 Posted May 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Zilch here but that will be changing shortly. 55F. 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats: Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21) Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26) Days with below freezing temps: 36 (Most recent: Feb 24, 2021) Days with sub-40F highs: 3 (Most recent: Dec 24) Total snowfall: 0.0" Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7" GoFundMe: www.gofundme.com/CollegeBasketballvsEpilepsy My Twitter @357jerseys4hope 24 Link to post Share on other sites
MossMan 10611 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 .05” so far on the day. Currently a few dribbles. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3764 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 12Z GFS does not show much of a ridge... seems like amplified ridging always fades away before it gets here. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
hawkstwelve 7238 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Getting some pretty decent sun breaks currently. Hoping they will help stir things up and aide the instability when the front rolls through. 2 Quote Weather station: https://maplevalleywx.com Link to post Share on other sites
TacomaWaWx 4428 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Had some sunbreaks here earlier...clouds have thickened up the rain is getting close now. Quote Cold season stats Coldest low-25 Coldest high-32 Freezes-16 Monthly rainfall-0.82” Cold season rainfall-32.91” Snowfall-15.5” Link to post Share on other sites
TacomaWaWx 4428 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Hmmm 2 Quote Cold season stats Coldest low-25 Coldest high-32 Freezes-16 Monthly rainfall-0.82” Cold season rainfall-32.91” Snowfall-15.5” Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3764 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Warm spike ahead of front... 64 here now and partly sunny. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
Timmy_Supercell 2237 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Hopefully a nice squall is hiding behind these generic moderate showers approaching. 3 Quote Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR ------------------------------------------------------------------- Snowfall (with % of seasonal average) 2010-2011 - 60.70" (168%) 2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%) 2012-2013 - 25.10" (70%) 2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%) 2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%) 2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%) 2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%) 2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%) 2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%) 2019-2020 - 37.00" (103%) 2020-2021 - 15.20" Nov '20 - 00.20" (5%) Dec '20 - 04.40" (44%) Jan '21 - 03.50" (29%) Feb '21 - 07.10" (78%) Mar '21 - T" 2021 Thunderstorms --/--, Biggest Snowstorm - 18.4" (Jan 3-4 2017 - 26 hours) Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019) Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 6.00" (01/16/2020), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012) Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 13.00" (01/16/2020), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012) T'storm Days: 10 (2020), 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 12 (2017), 13 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011) 1980-2015 Avg = 12 Severe T'storms: 6 (08/05/2020), (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) "Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016) Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports) (06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011) Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3764 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 FWIW... the 12Z GEFS is much less aggressive than the operational run with breaking down the ridge through day 10 at least. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
Eujunga 1106 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Zilch here with mostly sunny skies. Radar and satellite show all the action staying to the northwest. NWS point forecast says 100% POPs with categorical "rain" until 11 a.m. (less than an hour from now), but it's dry as a bone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Requiem 2648 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 This light rain is soooo exciting. Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3764 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 12Z GEFS holds the warm west and cold east pattern right through day 16. Here is the 10-day mean from day 6-16: And here is the end of the run... the pattern changes very little. Too bad its the GEFS. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
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