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10 minutes ago, Timmy said:

Looks like about half human caused.  Who are you trying to defend ?

Antifa obviously.

Seems to be a lot of misconception going around about the source of the fires, that's all. Dolt said "pretty much all the fires in Oregon were human caused" when in fact the majority were either caused by lightning or downed power lines.

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4 minutes ago, Jesse said:

Antifa obviously.

Seems to be a lot of misconception going around about the source of the fires, that's all. Dolt said "pretty much all the fires in Oregon were human caused" when in fact the majority were either caused by lightning or downed power lines.

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3 minutes ago, Jesse said:

Antifa obviously.

Seems to be a lot of misconception going around about the source of the fires, that's all. Dolt said "pretty much all the fires in Oregon were human caused" when in fact the majority were either caused by lightning or downed power lines.

It seems a lot of people consider downed powerlines to be "human caused," due to the fact power lines do not occur naturally... 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 52.02"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

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2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

It seems a lot of people consider downed powerlines to be "human caused," due to the fact power lines do not occur naturally... 

Yeah but like I said earlier there is an important distinction between indirect and direct cause. I think most people associate the phrase "human caused" with more direct causes. Andrew.

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1 hour ago, Chewbacca Defense said:

Looking at all the rain moving up the coast and inland last night I was rather surprised to see that we got completely shut out, and it looked like it was a good soaker.....not that we need the rain anywhere nearly as bad as Oregon, but I was really looking forward to listening to the rain fall and try to salvage what has been a horrible 24 hours...found out very dear friend has pancreatic cancer that has already spread to his liver, and I found out my job of 17 years is going away with the plant I work at shutting down.  I keep hoping that someone will pinch me and I will wake up from this nightmare that is 2020.

Wow, that sucks. Hang in there buddy. I’m having a shitty year as well. 2020 really does suck. 

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7 minutes ago, FroYoBro said:

It is smokier today compared to yesterday in my area. Still can definitely smell it in the air. Gross. 

Last night’s system tried to clean things up but just didn’t make enough headway inland. Now that it’s out of the picture the smoke has filled back in.

Unfortunately more subsidence and warming temps aloft should help hold things in place today.

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Yeah 2020 can **** off. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 52.02"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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40 minutes ago, Jesse said:

Yeah but like I said earlier there is an important distinction between indirect and direct cause. I think most people associate the phrase "human caused" with more direct causes. Andrew.

 

I think you associate the phrase with direct causes. You are kind of splitting hairs. And leaving the power on during a major windstorm in a parched dry canyon could be considered human negligence. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 52.02"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

 

I think you associate the phrase with direct causes. You are kind of splitting hairs. And leaving the power on during a major windstorm in a parched dry canyon could be considered human negligence. 

Yes we are definitely splitting hairs at this point.

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Just now, Jesse said:

Yes we are definitely splitting hairs here.

Yeah, I wrote that response and then immediately wondered why I perpetuated a discussion I really do not care about. I am not Tim or Jared. I do not always need to be right. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 52.02"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Yeah, I wrote that response and then immediately wondered why I perpetuated a discussion I really do not care about. I am not Tim or Jared. I do not always need to be right. 

Me beigher. :wub:

I thought the commentary you made the other day about the tough choices the PUD had about leaving lines on was pretty spot on. 

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Really nice 12Z GFS run. Good mix of active and pleasant days, decent rainfall, and good conditions for keeping smoke at bay.

The system at the end of the run could bring the first snow of the season down to the higher passes. I know it's clown range but that's the first time anything like that has shown up this fall. Always fun to see.

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Cannot remember if I posted this on here yesterday.  It appears the Olallie Lake scenic area completely burned. However, it does appear the rustic resort and cabins were saved. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 52.02"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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My old avatar on here with the dog was taken in August 2012 at Olallie lake. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 52.02"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z ECMWF for overnight on Thursday into Friday morning...

 

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Manna from heaven. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 52.02"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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16 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z ECMWF for overnight on Thursday into Friday morning...

 

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Willamette Valley Special?

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Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21)
  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 47 (Most recent: Apr 9, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3 (Most recent: Dec 24)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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2 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

It seems a lot of people consider downed powerlines to be "human caused," due to the fact power lines do not occur naturally... 

I do, even though it is for the most part not as direct a cause as, say, arson or an illegal campfire.

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It's called clown range for a reason.

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15 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

You are certainly not right in equating me with Tim. 🙂

You do find creative ways to prove you are right and will argue details forever.    Own it.  

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7 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

You do find creative ways to prove you are right and will argue details forever.    Own it.  

Here we go...he's taken the bait.

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Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21)
  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 47 (Most recent: Apr 9, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3 (Most recent: Dec 24)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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3 minutes ago, High Desert Mat? said:

Can someone tell me how to get to where I left off reading instead of every time I have to go back and thumb through the pages? Since the new upgrade it’s been doing that to me. Thanks!!

I am wondering the same thing.

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1 minute ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Here we go...he's taken the bait.

And my post implies that I do the same thing.    

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

And my post implies that I do the same thing.    

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Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21)
  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 47 (Most recent: Apr 9, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3 (Most recent: Dec 24)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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1 minute ago, GobBluth said:

Jet going into California seems a little off for September

 

Hopefully it stays suppressed through March.

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Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21)
  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 47 (Most recent: Apr 9, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3 (Most recent: Dec 24)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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To: Tim and Jared. I was mostly teasing there. ;)

 

I mean it is true, but I like you both. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 52.02"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

To: Tim and Jared. I was mostly teasing there. ;)

 

I mean it is true, but I like you both. 

Its funny because its true!  

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Tim can you post the map showing precip totals now through Saturday? 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 52.02"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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32 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

You do find creative ways to prove you are right and will argue details forever.    Own it.  

I think there are many more recent examples of you having lengthy arguments on here.

You're thinking of the Jared from years ago, as was Andrew. 😉

 

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Tim can you post the map showing precip totals now through Saturday? 

Here you go...

 

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27 minutes ago, High Desert Mat? said:

Can someone tell me how to get to where I left off reading instead of every time I have to go back and thumb through the pages? Since the new upgrade it’s been doing that to me. Thanks!!

I mentioned this issue a few days ago and it seemed some people were experiencing it and some not.

Someone gave a "fix" but it didn't work for me.

 

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3 hours ago, Jesse said:

Antifa obviously.

Seems to be a lot of misconception going around about the source of the fires, that's all. Dolt said "pretty much all the fires in Oregon were human caused" when in fact the majority were either caused by lightning or downed power lines.

Power lines were installed by humans. They probably should have been powered down since a once in 50 year storm was brewing. I haven't read anywhere that confirmed that a single Oregon fire was caused by lightning this go around.

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Today is worse than yesterday here in terms of smoke... but much better than Saturday and Monday.   Sun is shining and it's not a red ball... visibility is not good but I can see the faint outline of some mountains in the distance.

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