September 2023 Weather in the PNW

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Great to see the Brrr is back. 

Fall is definitely here. Been noticing the movement of the animals this past week. The deer and elk are absolutely everywhere right now, my wife came home late the other night from the Goo Goo Dolls concert in Eugene, and said she saw deer, elk, coons, and a fox along the road in the state park on her way home. My cats and dogs have been slaying a large number of critters the past few days, highlighted by an enormous wood rat which I measured 15" from tail to nose. Below is a pic of the elk out last night. 

[Chewbacca Defense]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Great to see the Brrr is back. 

Fall is definitely here. Been noticing the movement of the animals this past week. The deer and elk are absolutely everywhere right now, my wife came home late the other night from the Goo Goo Dolls concert in Eugene, and said she saw deer, elk, coons, and a fox along the road in the state park on her way home. My cats and dogs have been slaying a large number of critters the past few days, highlighted by an enormous wood rat which I measured 15" from tail to nose. Below is a pic of the elk out last night. 

Beautiful picture! 

Wow, Goo Goo Dolls...blast from my past..I saw them in Athens in the early 90's when they were just getting started.  They played with Soul Asylum at the Georgia Theater.  I can't remember which band, but one of the lead singers was so wasted he had a hard time staying on his feet...might have been Soul Asylum.

[TT-SEA]

12Z ECMWF shows a nice little rain event on Tuesday night...

[TT-SEA]

Huge temperature gradient across Oregon one week from today on the 12Z ECMWF with the ULL parked to the east and offshore flow on the west side.

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

13 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Huge temperature gradient across Oregon one week from today on the 12Z ECMWF with the ULL parked to the east and offshore flow on the west side.

You got a Tuesday morning low map?

[TT-SEA]

12Z ECMWF at day 10 does not look much like the 00Zz GFS from last night.

[TT-SEA]

10 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

You got a Tuesday morning low map?

 

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

 

Gross. Thanks

[SilverFallsAndrew]

18 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Gross. Thanks

Gross because they are relatively mild?

[Cascadia_Wx]

20 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Gross. Thanks

Oh noo. Seasonable lows  

[TT-SEA]

10 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Gross because they are relatively mild?

People have different preferences.    Just crazy.   

Our Port Angeles friend loves hiking in the mountains and snow but does not like frost during the warm season and our endlessly gloomy winters (his description).  A real enigma for you to figure out.  

[TigerWoodsLibido]

77F and sunny. Looks like we got down to 50F last night. We've gotten down into the 40s 5 times this Sept so far.

[TT-SEA]

75 with a deep blue sky... spectacular day.   

[SilverFallsAndrew]

8 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

People have different preferences.    Just crazy.   

Our Port Angeles friend loves hiking in the mountains and snow but does not like frost during the warm season and our endlessly gloomy winters (his description).  A real enigma for you to figure out.  

That map was pretty much spot on average for this time of year, the response didn't really make sense in any of the contexts you just made up. 

[TT-SEA]

13 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

That map was pretty much spot on average for this time of year, the response didn't really make sense in any of the contexts you just made up. 

It falls under the frost in the warm season preference... because I believe he is interpreting that map to mean frost is possible at his specific location.   And he does not appear to like that because of his extensive (and very impressive) garden.   That is my take... made sense to me.   Even if it is climo. 

[Cold Snap]

Had a low of 47 this morning. There was some pretty dense fog as well. Up to 72 now.

[TT-SEA]

Just now, Cold Snap said:

Had a low of 47 this morning. There was some pretty dense fog as well. Up to 72 now.

Could be some upper 30s in your area on Tuesday morning... particularly in the valleys.

[Cloud]

49 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

That map was pretty much spot on average for this time of year, the response didn't really make sense in any of the contexts you just made up. 

Maybe no hikey hikey end of Septembery! 

[Anti Marine Layer]

Looks like a few fires have started on the satellite. 

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

People have different preferences.    Just crazy.   

Our Port Angeles friend loves hiking in the mountains and snow but does not like frost during the warm season and our endlessly gloomy winters (his description).  A real enigma for you to figure out.  

I like my garden, so the longer a growing season the better. I prefer the first frost to wait till October. Won't be that lucky this year. 90 days between frosts. 

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

57 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

That map was pretty much spot on average for this time of year, the response didn't really make sense in any of the contexts you just made up. 

This would be the earliest frost for me in 6 years, by 2 weeks. This is following the latest frost for me by 2 weeks. That's 4 weeks less of garden growing. I don't mind the shoulder seasons, they just lasted too long and are coming on too fast for my garden likes this year. You win some you lose some. 

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

9 minutes ago, Cloud said:

Maybe no hikey hikey end of Septembery! 

Hiking in snow is no biggie. I'm good until avalanche danger becomes a problem. 

[TT-SEA]

10 minutes ago, Cloud said:

Maybe no hikey hikey end of Septembery! 

Frost at his location on Tuesday morning prevents him from hiking in late September?    

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

57 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

It falls under the frost in the warm season preference... because I believe he is interpreting that map to mean frost is possible at his specific location.   And he does not appear to like that because of his extensive (and very impressive) garden.   That is my take... made sense to me.   Even if it is climo. 

Believe it or not I got some super spicy habaneros and serranos this season!! Going to be able to make some hot sauce!

Also was a banner tomato year, 15 gallon bags frozen for processing into sauce (Oregon star tomatoes) this winter and over 35 lbs of slicing (cherokee purple) tomatoes... so many BLTs!!! Still a bunch still to ripen on the plants (hence my desire for the frost to wait). 

The best crop hands down was beans (bush/pole). 35 quarts canned and 15 gallon bags frozen. 

[Cloud]

4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Frost at his location on Tuesday morning prevents him from hiking in late September?    

Yes. No. Maybe. Who knows! 

[Deweydog]

4 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Believe it or not I got some super spicy habaneros and serranos this season!! Going to be able to make some hot sauce!

Also was a banner tomato year, 15 gallon bags frozen for processing into sauce (Oregon star tomatoes) this winter and over 35 lbs of slicing (cherokee purple) tomatoes... so many BLTs!!! Still a bunch still to ripen on the plants (hence my desire for the frost to wait). 

The best crop hands down was beans (bush/pole). 35 quarts canned and 15 gallon bags frozen. 

 

[TT-SEA]

3 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Believe it or not I got some super spicy habaneros and serranos this season!! Going to be able to make some hot sauce!

Also was a banner tomato year, 15 gallon bags frozen for processing into sauce (Oregon star tomatoes) this winter and over 35 lbs of slicing (cherokee purple) tomatoes... so many BLTs!!! Still a bunch still to ripen on the plants (hence my desire for the frost to wait). 

The best crop hands down was beans (bush/pole). 35 quarts canned and 15 gallon bags frozen. 

It was a great garden year for sure.  Sounds awesome.    

You might have a warm-skewed view of gardening here based solely on the last 6 years.  But this probably the new normal so you moved here at the right time.   

[Cloud]

12 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Hiking in snow is no biggie. I'm good until avalanche danger becomes a problem. 

I “attempted” a snow lake trail hike I think a couple years ago in March only to find out that the trails was still shut down due to snow covers when I got there. That was a bummer.  I gotta do a frost hike one of these days, I think it would be awesome, which would be part of the reason to opt for a hike in late Sept or Oct. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

It falls under the frost in the warm season preference... because I believe he is interpreting that map to mean frost is possible at his specific location.   And he does not appear to like that because of his extensive (and very impressive) garden.   That is my take... made sense to me.   Even if it is climo. 

30s in outlying areas during the 2nd half of the season would not qualify as frost in the warm season. It's highly typical and was common prior to the past decade. Our average first freeze used to be around September 20th, though now that date has moved back to the middle of October due to climate change. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

28 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

This would be the earliest frost for me in 6 years, by 2 weeks. This is following the latest frost for me by 2 weeks. That's 4 weeks less of garden growing. I don't mind the shoulder seasons, they just lasted too long and are coming on too fast for my garden likes this year. You win some you lose some. 

If you look at historical data for my area frost in late August was not uncommon during the previous climate era. Even in the past decade we have seen lows fall into the upper 30s during the past week of August several times. Including a low of 38 at the end of August 2020. I doubt from a historical perspective your area is much different. 

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

If you look at historical data for my area frost in late August was not uncommon during the previous climate era. Even in the past decade we have seen lows fall into the upper 30s during the past week of August several times. Including a low of 38 at the end of August 2020. I doubt from a historical perspective your area is much different. 

I understand I have moved here into a changed climate. My gardening likely would not have been possible at my house a few decades ago. 

[MossMan]

54 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

Looks like a few fires have started on the satellite. 

Yep looks that way. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Climo for today at Silver Falls is 73/44. 

Record High 94 in 1967

Record low 27 in 1970

[TT-SEA]

31 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

30s in outlying areas during the 2nd half of the season would not qualify as frost in the warm season. It's highly typical and was common prior to the past decade. Our average first freeze used to be around September 20th, though now that date has moved back to the middle of October due to climate change. 

Not disagreeing.   But he doesn't have to like every aspect of climo.   You don't like November climo and you certainly don't like our new warm season climo.   

[ShawniganLake]

1 hour ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

I like my garden, so the longer a growing season the better. I prefer the first frost to wait till October. Won't be that lucky this year. 90 days between frosts. 

Unlikely it will be a killing frost.  Too much rain this time of year is probably worse for a lot of things in the veggie garden 

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

11 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

Unlikely it will be a killing frost.  Too much rain this time of year is probably worse for a lot of things in the veggie garden 

This is probably correct. 

[TT-SEA]

75 at SEA... 80 in North Bend.

Perfect smoke-free blue sky and excellent visibility thanks to the recent rain events.  

[T-Town]

7 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

75 at SEA... 80 in North Bend.

Perfect smoke-free blue sky and excellent visibility thanks to the recent rain events.  

75 here as well. 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

72.9°F here.

[YahRaEl]

75° here at Eastside Tacoma