October 2023 Weather in the PNW

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

Olympics look great.

[TT-SEA]

Sunny morning for the Puget Sound region while central and eastern WA are socked in with clouds.  

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Bottomed out at 31.8˚F this morning. Now 32.7˚F and rising. Should be sunny and mild this afternoon.

Official forecast now calls for 28˚F on Saturday morning.

[TT-SEA]

It is really cloudy across the entire northern US this morning from central WA all the way to Maine.  

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

1 hour ago, MossMan said:

Great time for a swim! 

You first!

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

43 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Olympics look great.

That is a dream location, beautiful home.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

31.5 at home for a low, 22 at the cabin with 3 inches of snow.

[Chewbacca Defense]

Got down to 29.5 last night.  hit 32 on the way down just after midnight, and just got back up to 32 in the past hour.  Just took the doggo out and very heavy frost on the lawn.  WOOT!

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Pretty morning at the property in chesaw. 

[Snownerd3000]

I missed out on the hurricane fun down in Cali but might see one in Orlando.  Supposed to be at Magic Kingdom that day...

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Looks like a fairly typical and boring start to November coming up. Could be worse.

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

14 minutes ago, Snownerd3000 said:

I missed out on the hurricane fun down in Cali but might see one in Orlando.  Supposed to be at Magic Kingdom that day...

Well sh*t. My family get hit again...

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Starting to look like a HARD ENSO crash next summer. I know Phil says we will probably go 8 years before we see another Nina, but it might be closer to 8 months. 

[Snownerd3000]

When was our last La Nada?  Feels like we've just yo-yo'd from Nina to Nino.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, Snownerd3000 said:

When was our last La Nada?  Feels like we've just yo-yo'd from Nina to Nino.

2013-14

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

22 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Starting to look like a HARD ENSO crash next summer. I know Phil says we will probably go 8 years before we see another Nina, but it might be closer to 8 months. 

8 Years!!??? lol

[ShawniganLake]

16 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

2013-14

2019-20?   

[Phishy Wx]

next 2 weeks ish look like boring fall weather.  give me a chance to get the leaves up this year before they get buried for months like last year

[Phishy Wx]

20 minutes ago, Snownerd3000 said:

When was our last La Nada?  Feels like we've just yo-yo'd from Nina to Nino.

when was the last El Nada?

[LowerGarfield]

No frost or freeze here. Ended up getting down to about 35F or so when I got up. I think the cloud cover here kept it warm enough. Ice scraper will have to wait another day for it's debut.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

3 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

2019-20?   

I guess if we are going to use extreme technicalities. It had 4 straight periods of +0.5 ONI, then fell to +0.4 in the fifth period. 

[Snownerd3000]

11 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

8 Years!!??? lol

There was a study on the effects of Tonga eruption and think it referenced an influence on enso state for around that period.  Maybe that was what he was referencing.

[ShawniganLake]

9 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I guess if we are going to use extreme technicalities. It had 4 straight periods of +0.5 ONI, then fell to +0.4 in the fifth period. 

It’s okay you forgot about that one. Wasn’t a very exciting winter for the most part. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, ShawniganLake said:

It’s okay you forgot about that one. Wasn’t a very exciting winter for the most part. 

On the flip side 2016-17 BARELY made official Nina status. 

As for 2019-20, I have always had it in my head as a weak Nino, but I guess technically it wasn't. 

Edited October 26 by SilverFallsAndrew

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Looks like we got down to 40F in Springfield. EUG was 37F.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

This little gem is at about 1800'. 

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/423-Phelps-Mountain-Ln-SE-Silverton-OR-97381/304724627_zpid/

[Phishy Wx]

Light Snow, 37

[Phishy Wx]

3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

This little gem is at about 1800'. 

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/423-Phelps-Mountain-Ln-SE-Silverton-OR-97381/304724627_zpid/

dang, that place is pretty sweet.  I could grow a lot of weed

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Looks like SLE managed to make it down to 36 this morning after a midnight low of 38. Only 5 days this month have been below average, but the anomaly for the month is now down to -2.8. Just going by the NWS forecast through the end of the month they would end up with a monthly mean of 55.3 which would actually bring them out of the top 20 warmest October's (If they month ended today they'd still be #5.). 

[GHweatherChris]

7 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

This little gem is at about 1800'. 

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/423-Phelps-Mountain-Ln-SE-Silverton-OR-97381/304724627_zpid/

LOL, over a half million dollars for a small shanty and minimal property, WTF!!

[SilverFallsAndrew]

A few impressive lows in Central and Eastern Oregon last night where skies cleared. 

Redmond 19

Burns 18

Klamath Falls 17

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, GHweatherChris said:

LOL, over a half million dollars for a small shanty and minimal property, WTF!!

They just cut the price a bit, but housing is expensive these days. No way around it. The 6.5 acre LOT which borders my property is going on the market for $450,000.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

10 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said:

LOL, over a half million dollars for a small shanty and minimal property, WTF!!

[laughs in Vancouver]

[GHweatherChris]

7 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

They just cut the price a bit, but housing is expensive these days. No way around it. The 6.5 acre LOT which borders my property is going on the market for $450,000.

Ya I know housing is expensive, its effed up, we rent and its barely doable, I couldn't even imagine initiating a home purchase these days.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

3 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said:

Ya I know housing is expensive, its effed up, we rent and its barely doable, I couldn't even imagine initiating a home purchase these days.

I can't either. I don't know how people do it. My mortgage is about what a studio apartment rents for a month in Silverton ($1400 including insurance and property tax), and I know our prices are significantly lower than the Puget Sound region. 

Edited October 26 by SilverFallsAndrew

[GHweatherChris]

3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I can't either. I don't know how people do it. My mortgage is about what a studio apartment rents for a month in Silverton ($1400 including insurance and property tax), and I know our prices are significantly lower than the Puget Sound region. 

Christ, our rent is $1500 and does not include water/garbage which is spendy and its on a tiny property.

[FroYoBro]

The last two days have felt like winter to me. Pretty abrupt change from last week. 

[TigerWoodsLibido]

I've made peace with the fact that I will never own a home or even be able to afford rent in most. I'm very fortunate to have the living situation I currently am in.

[Phishy Wx]

8 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I can't either. I don't know how people do it. My mortgage is about what a studio apartment rents for a month in Silverton ($1400 including insurance and property tax), and I know our prices are significantly lower than the Puget Sound region. 

wow thats cheap

[SilverFallsAndrew]

4 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

wow thats cheap

I had the good fortune of buying 2011, at rock bottom. 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

19 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I can't either. I don't know how people do it. My mortgage is about what a studio apartment rents for a month in Silverton ($1400 including insurance and property tax), and I know our prices are significantly lower than the Puget Sound region. 

I purchased my place in 2004 for 164K, 2.5 acres and very private. My Mortage is 1200 per month and it would sell for 800k on the market now. Just NUTS!

[SilverFallsAndrew]

With the price of everything else I don't even know how I would make it if I had a rent/mortgage around $3K a month. 

[Phishy Wx]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

With the price of everything else I don't even know how I would make it if I had a rent/mortgage around $3K a month. 

I can tell you no kids and dual income is the only way that works.  Any other situation and we'd probably be back east in some red state backwater.

[the_convergence_zone]

2 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

I can tell you no kids and dual income is the only way that works.  Any other situation and we'd probably be back east in some red state backwater.

Our mortgage is around $4K and with current housing prices/rates it would be closer to $6,500. 

Dual income, one kid. Never seriously considered a second kid, otherwise I would be paying nearly $5K/month in daycare costs! 

I know someone who bought a house in Seattle as a grad student back in 2010ish. His income was around 25K/year at that time as a researcher for the university. He lives in Tacoma now and rents it out. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

2 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

I can tell you no kids and dual income is the only way that works.  Any other situation and we'd probably be back east in some red state backwater.

That's what I would imagine. With as many kids as I have, there is just no way. I recognize how fortunate I was to buy at the right time AND manage to hang on to the home through my divorce 8 years ago. 

[Cold Snap]

Had a low of 32 this morning. First freeze of the cold season.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

10 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

With the price of everything else I don't even know how I would make it if I had a rent/mortgage around $3K a month. 

I have friends with 3500 -4000k a month mortgage. No way i could swing that and still have a new truck.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, the_convergence_zone said:

Our mortgage is around $4K and with current housing prices/rates it would be closer to $6,500. 

Dual income, one kid. Never seriously considered a second kid, otherwise I would be paying nearly $5K/month in daycare costs! 

I know someone who bought a house in Seattle as a grad student back in 2010ish. His income was around 25K/year at that time as a researcher for the university. He lives in Tacoma now and rents it out. 

We are fortunate in that my in laws will provide child care pretty much whenever at no cost. They are pretty chill too, so its no trouble. My wife kind of works, but doesn't really have any interest in work or a career. The only reason she really works is to get out of the house and because her employer offers great health insurance which covers all of us. Which saves quite a bit of money. 

[Cold Snap]

Looks like it should get down into the 20s these next three nights IMBY.

[Chewbacca Defense]

42 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said:

Christ, our rent is $1500 and does not include water/garbage which is spendy and its on a tiny property.

There was a FB feed up here in one of the Bellingham community pages last week where someone moving to the area was trying to get a sense of the rental market.  I was shocked to see someone not too far from me paying about $3,500 per month for a 2,200 sq ft house.  I don't think that included any utilities.  Granted, its in a "nice" neighborhood, but it doesn't have a mountain, bay or lake view.  A lot of home rentals were in the $2,500 to $2,800 range, and a studio apartment goes for at least $1,500-$1,800 in town.....just crazy! 

We pay $1,800 for our mortgage, insurance and property taxes for a 2,800 sq ft house.  Granted, we got in when the market was very low (2013) and we refinanced to a 2.24% interest rate in 2022, but still....

The other half of the "crazy" equation, we bought this house for $330k in 2013, and it was valued at $880k at one point last year.  It has settled to a more "pedestrian" $680k this year.