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6 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Maybe one in early August 2017, another in early September 2017, and maybe September 8-9, 2020. In most cases I don't think it's been a huge deterrent. 

The weather patterns that stoke fires are the same ones that direct their smoke into our area. Conversely, the weather patterns that bring in cool, moist air from the Pacific to help put them out are the ones that clean our air as well. Smoke may cool us, but it's usually turning a +12F day into a +8F day.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 40

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8 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

The weather patterns that stoke fires are the same ones that direct their smoke into our area. Conversely, the weather patterns that bring in cool, moist air from the Pacific to help put them out are the ones that clean our air as well. Smoke may cool us, but it's usually turning a +12F day into a +8F day.

PDX scored a 64/53 on 9/11/20 under this pattern thanks to burning vegetation (and some residences).

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18 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

The weather patterns that stoke fires are the same ones that direct their smoke into our area. Conversely, the weather patterns that bring in cool, moist air from the Pacific to help put them out are the ones that clean our air as well. Smoke may cool us, but it's usually turning a +12F day into a +8F day.

I remember SEA was supposed to have a shot at 100 degrees on 9/5/17 but the smoke kept the high from going above 90 I believe. I remember the forecast high for here was 102 and it only got to 90.

2024 Warm Season Stats

Number of 80+ days - 35

Number of 85+ days - 25

Number of 90+ days - 3

Number of 95+ days - 2 (Warmest so far - 96)

Number of 60+ lows - 6

 

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25 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

The weather patterns that stoke fires are the same ones that direct their smoke into our area. Conversely, the weather patterns that bring in cool, moist air from the Pacific to help put them out are the ones that clean our air as well. Smoke may cool us, but it's usually turning a +12F day into a +8F day.

 

15 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

PDX scored a 64/53 on 9/11/20 under this pattern thanks to burning vegetation (and some residences).

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Yeah, there's a few extreme examples, but that takes some pretty heavy duty smoke at low levels.

Most of the time, run of the mill smoky skies probably only take a degree or two off the highs.

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It takes some seriously dense smoke to really make a huge impact on temps. Some of the nastiest, most dense smoke I’ve seen was during September 2020. The 11th-13th were the worst days. The 12th actually felt legitimately chilly outside. 
 9/11 74/53

9/12 59/52

9/13 63/49

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

PDX scored a 64/53 on 9/11/20 under this pattern thanks to burning vegetation (and some residences).

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That was the best day of our Lake Entiat trip! Basically stayed inside the rest of the time since it got way worse after the 11th. Barely got out of the mid 70’s when it should have been in the mid 90’s during that trip. 

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43 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

PDX scored a 64/53 on 9/11/20 under this pattern thanks to burning vegetation (and some residences).

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That's a day to remember! The more naive of mesoscale models wanted to mix 90s down to KSEA. That smoke was so thick it shaded us better than midwinter cloudcover. We basically had no sun that day.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 40

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Elevation: 3550'

 

Snow History:

Nov: 1"

Dec: .5"

Jan: 1.9"

Feb: 12.7"

Mar: 1.0"

Total: 17.1"

 

2016/2017: 70"

2015/2016: 34"

Average: ~25"

 

2017/2018 Winter Temps

Lowest Min: 1F on 2/23

Lowest Max: 23F on 12/24, 2/22

Lows <32: 87

Highs <32: 13

 

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21 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

That's a day to remember! The more naive of mesoscale models wanted to mix 90s down to KSEA. That smoke was so thick it shaded us better than midwinter cloudcover. We basically had no sun that day.

I think that was the most socked in 48-72 hour period that I've ever seen here, more than any winter inversion. Visibility under a half mile the whole time. Felt very Silent Hill-like.

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Up to 84 here…88 unofficially at SEA. Looks like we will get to 85 this afternoon. Don’t think we will be getting to 90 during this heatwave from what I’m seeing but lots of mid-upper 80s seems likely. Probably a couple 90s at SEA. 

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7 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

Up to 84 here…88 unofficially at SEA. Looks like we will get to 85 this afternoon. Don’t think we will be getting to 90 during this heatwave from what I’m seeing but lots of mid-upper 80s seems likely. Probably a couple 90s at SEA. 

87 officially for the high at SEA.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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4 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Even with the smoke? Impressive!

Yep...depressing. Won't be long before we will start to have fires close by for ashfall.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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40 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

Could be a smoky backdoor blast.  Some pretty active fires in eastern BC and the Canadian Rockies. 

Extremely bad scenario. Fire starts in like Walterville and it’s game over.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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7 minutes ago, Groundhog said:

Interesting situation unfolding here in B.C. Area burnt by forest fire in ‘17. Soil gave way in a landslide and is blocking a river. Should be fun when this breeches. 
 

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-preparing-for-worst-case-scenario-if-landslide-caused-dam-in-chilcotin-river-gives-way-1.6986355

I'm seriously thinking of driving the 600+ km to hopefully see it. Apparently there is a nice viewpoint of Farwell Canyon from the rim that has a decent resource road getting there. Farwell Canyon Bridge is probably toast, however.

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