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4 minutes ago, kokaneekidz said:

You have a strong argument on gun type . yet the person pulling the trigger is still the responsible party. It would be like saying well I left a shovel out on the side of the house and some deranged crack pot came by , borrowed it and bludgeoned another neighbour out of hate. But now I am the one going to jail for leaving it out and about...

I’m putting some (not all) responsibility on the father. Just a very dumb decision he made—I don’t believe any 14-year-old should own a weapon like that. He didn’t just leave the gun laying around, which also would be bad, he gave it to him as a Christmas present. 

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20 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Alrighty then!

I can tell this really bothers you.

Not at all.  Lol.  You should read people better.

What annoys me much more is that someone would think this is a lighting rod topic.  The guy isn't even a politician.  And more than likely diddled some young girls with Epstein.  Good riddance. 

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Just now, SnarkyGoblin said:

Not at all.  Lol.  You should read people better.

What annoys me much more is that someone would think this is a lighting rod topic.  The guy isn't even a politician.  And more than likely diddled some young girls with Epstein.  Good riddance. 

Totally agree. He’s the worst relative of my family for sure! 

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7 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

The real sexual predators are the drag queens in the schools, the teachers and staff who give children puberty blockers and confuse very young children into thinking they are transgender when they are not, give them "gender affirming" care and do so without parental knowledge or consent. Even most of Europe is banning the puberty blockers.

Trump may have committed sexual assault in the past or he may not have. They'll do anything to get him.

King David committed adultery and murder and later he was sorry for it and was still considered to be one of the best kings Israel ever had.

So basically your MO is to ignore moral failings when it’s people you like? Gotcha, that’s good to know.

Remember that unlike King David, Trump has never apologized for any of the bad things he’s done. 

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People are too selfish for a democracy to really work. Unfortunate, it's a good concept, but we will just keep caging people which is primitive and ruthless! I also think that shooter on Trump could have easily been shot in the leg to be neutralized.. they are taught to take a fatal shot first. Could have got information out of him. As long as they respond like that it also makes it more possible for people to be manipulated into the situation. 

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24 minutes ago, Tenochtitlan said:

Regardless of the sentence, his father bought him an AR-15 rifle for Christmas. After the FBI investigated the shooter for an online school shooting threat in 2023.

I don’t think he deserves 180 years, at all, but wow, to me it’s very very dumb to buy a teenager a semi-automatic rifle. Much less one that the FBI investigated!

The AR-15 was designed to inflict what one of its designers called "maximum wound effect." AR-15s have a higher muzzle velocity than some other rifles and bullets leaving them at such a fast speed — nearly three times the speed of sound — cause more damage to bones and organs. AR-15 ammunition is also more likely to break apart inside a body, causing even more damage.”

Certainly a bad decision for someone that young.  His father is obviously a moron, but stupid does not deserve that kind of sentence.  I think the second degree murder charges against him will be non starters, but he could still get a lot of time.

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2 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Certainly a bad decision for someone that young.  His father is obviously a moron, but stupid does not deserve that kind of sentence.  I think the second degree murder charges against him will be non starters, but he could still get a lot of time.

I agree.

The parents (Jennifer and James Crumbley) of another shooter in a similar circumstance got 10 years.

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16 minutes ago, Tenochtitlan said:

Totally agree. He’s the worst relative of my family for sure! 

Even if that's so a lot of people agree he is one of the better legal minds out there.  Not surprising to me the Democrats have totally ignored him.

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19 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Not at all.  Lol.  You should read people better.

What annoys me much more is that someone would think this is a lighting rod topic.  The guy isn't even a politician.  And more than likely diddled some young girls with Epstein.  Good riddance. 

Oh brother. 😀

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So now you have two high profile Democrats absolutely torching the party (Kennedy and Dershowitz) in the past week or two and it's no big deal to any of you.  Yeah right.....

I know people on my side are doing the same, but the Cheney's are toxic, and I have never liked them.

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Just now, snow_wizard said:

So now you have two high profile Democrats absolutely torching the party (Kennedy and Dershowitz) in the past week or two and it's no big deal to any of you.  Yeah right.....

I know people on my side are doing the same, but the Cheney's are toxic, and I have never liked them.

Mr. Brain Worms and the defense for OJ Simpson! Lol. 

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It’s certainly worthy of taking note as to why.  These are long time staunch Democrats.  
Their reasoning should be taken seriously.   I haven’t heard their full throated reasons but these are lifelong Democrats.  
I want to understand such an important personal decision as they’ve been very public about their devotion to party.  

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12 minutes ago, Andie said:

It’s certainly worthy of taking note as to why.  These are long time staunch Democrats.  
Their reasoning should be taken seriously.   I haven’t heard their full throated reasons but these are lifelong Democrats.  
I want to understand such an important personal decision as they’ve been very public about their devotion to party.  

I’m not sure about RFK, but Dershowitz is pretty obviously giving Israel as his central reason. For some Jews (speaking here as a Jew myself), Zionism is the single most important political issue. 

I’m not part of that group. Human rights are the most important to me and I refuse to be biased by my family tree. October 7 was wrong but so is the degree to which Israel is attacking civilians in Gaza.

The ironic thing is that Biden’s administration (and Kamala’s too, if she wins) continue to give arms to Israel. But these hardcore Zionists like Dershowitz can’t take any kind of stepping away from the idea that Israel is always right. 

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29 minutes ago, Tenochtitlan said:

Mr. Brain Worms and the defense for OJ Simpson! Lol. 

He had / has a pretty big following and he is a Kennedy.  That carries weight with the older Democrats.  You guys are fooling yourselves if you don't think it's a big deal.  I am willing to admit the Cheney thing might hurt our side a little bit though.  Right now it seems like your side is bleeding worse.  Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Manchin left your party very recently also.

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These nations seem to be the embodiment of Cain and Abel.  
 

Speaking on biblical terms still, Indonesian police just stopped a plot to kill the Pope. 
https://metro.co.uk/2024/09/07/terror-attack-plot-kill-pope-francis-revealed-seven-suspects-arrested-21564548/

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1 hour ago, snow_wizard said:

So now you have two high profile Democrats absolutely torching the party (Kennedy and Dershowitz) in the past week or two and it's no big deal to any of you.  Yeah right.....

I know people on my side are doing the same, but the Cheney's are toxic, and I have never liked them.

Good God man.   Dershowitz has been getting paid handsomely by Fox for years and Kennedy is a nut job.    Trump and Hannity screamed at us for months telling us what a nut job Kennedy was.    😀

 

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Just heard on the news that Biden has spent 532 days on vacation in less than four years, according to RNC Research.  
That’s the equivalent of over 48 years of vacations. 

532 days is almost 1.5 yrs of vacay!!  Great work if you can get it.  

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8 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Good God man.   Dershowitz has been getting paid handsomely by Fox for years and Kennedy is a nut job.    Trump and Hannity screamed at us for months telling us what a nut job Kennedy was.    😀

 

Is Kamala paying you well?

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But the main stream media guys!  They are the enemy! 

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https://wapo.st/3zaKBri

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Russia’s activities “are more sophisticated than in prior election cycles,” said a senior official with the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) in a briefing with reporters, noting the use of “authentic U.S. voices” to “launder” Russian government propaganda and spread socially divisive narratives through major social media, as well as on sham websites that pose as legitimate American media organizations.

Moscow is targeting U.S. swing states in particular, the official said, and using artificial intelligence to more quickly and convincingly create fake content to shape the outcome in favor of former president Donald Trump.

 

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3 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

But the main stream media guys!  They are the enemy! 

🙄

https://wapo.st/3zaKBri

 

What's the old saying...fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.....

As Trump always says Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia......

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1 hour ago, snow_wizard said:

Certainly a bad decision for someone that young.  His father is obviously a moron, but stupid does not deserve that kind of sentence.  I think the second degree murder charges against him will be non starters, but he could still get a lot of time.

We can argue the details, but the father is evidently far from blameless in this and probable cause exists for him to be indicted and charged (and, if found guilty, punished).

Giving a gun as a gift to such a troubled youth is beyond irresponsible.

If you can’t admit this, well, then that is how you are going to eventually get gun control with some real teeth in it, and it will be written by those who don’t care in the least how much red tape it imposes on responsible gun owners.

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15 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Is Kamala paying you well?

It's just facts.   I am totally willing to call out both sides but your comments are always so stupidly one-sided that you make it impossible.    Dershowitz and RFK are your examples?  Get real.   The Democrats are the boogeyman to you.   It's just silly.   

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FWIW there are plenty of conservatives that predicted months ago the Russia interference narrative would come up again.  Do these clowns ever think of anything new?  No way in hell anyone with a brain is going to believe it.

I have yet to hear a good reason why Russia would want Trump to win anyway.  It's just ridiculous. 

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26 minutes ago, Andie said:

 

Just heard on the news that Biden has spent 532 days on vacation in less than four years, according to RNC Research.  
That’s the equivalent of over 48 years of vacations. 

532 days is almost 1.5 yrs of vacay!!  Great work if you can get it.  

That is a lot. A bit more even than what George W. spent on vacation (over 1000 days, over the course of eight years). 
 

I’m confident Kamala would take way less vacations if she wins. She seems like a workaholic, lol.

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8 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

We can argue the details, but the father is evidently far from blameless in this and probable cause exists for him to be indicted and charged (and, if found guilty, punished).

Giving a gun as a gift to such a troubled youth is beyond irresponsible.

If you can’t admit this, well, then that is how you are going to eventually get gun control with some real teeth in it, and it will be written by those who don’t care in the least how much red tape it imposes on responsible gun owners.

No doubt it was a terrible move.  I still say the guy is just stupid though.  Probably wanted to be cool in the eyes of his son.

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3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

FWIW there are plenty of conservatives that predicted months ago the Russia interference narrative would come up again.  Do these clowns ever think of anything new?  No way in hell anyone with a brain is going to believe it.

I have yet to hear a good reason why Russia would want Trump to win anyway.  It's just ridiculous. 

So Russia wants division.   They don't care who wins... they just want us fighting with each other and civil war would be great.    I do think Putin prefers Trump.   Trump is very influenced by flattery.   Like waaaaaaaay too easy. 

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3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I have yet to hear a good reason why Russia would want Trump to win anyway.  It's just ridiculous. 

Are you even remotely familiar with his running mate’s opinions on helping Ukraine defend itself. Or rather, on not helping Ukraine defend itself?

It's called clown range for a reason.

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1 minute ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Stupid, and recklessly caused the deaths of others.

Hold him accountable.

Just not to the tune of 180 years.  I think 10 yeas sounds reasonable.  It obviously needs to be enough to send a message to other idiot parents out there.

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Just now, snow_wizard said:

Just not to the tune of 180 years.  I think 10 yeas sounds reasonable.  It obviously needs to be enough to send a message to other idiot parents out there.

The 180 years stuff might be more of a threat to get him to plea bargain to a lesser charge than it is a serious proposal.

It's called clown range for a reason.

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Just now, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Are you even remotely familiar with his running mate’s opinions on helping Ukraine defend itself. Or rather, on not helping Ukraine defend itself?

The bottom line is Russia waited until Biden was in office to invade.  They didn't dare try it with Trump.  Trump actually took out a number of Russian soldiers in the attack he authorized against Syria.  Doesn't sound like somebody Putin should be too happy with.

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3 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

The 180 years stuff might be more of a threat to get him to plea bargain to a lesser charge than it is a serious proposal.

Could be.

If the father wants to redeem himself he could fall on the sword to get a lesser sentence for his son.  I doubt it will happen though.

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40 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

But the main stream media guys!  They are the enemy! 

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https://wapo.st/3zaKBri

 

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20 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The bottom line is Russia waited until Biden was in office to invade.  They didn't dare try it with Trump.  Trump actually took out a number of Russian soldiers in the attack he authorized against Syria.  Doesn't sound like somebody Putin should be too happy with.

We might find out in a couple months when Trump wins and the war continues.  

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

We might find out in a couple months when Trump wins and the war continues.  

The war will end. Trump will pull our support for Ukraine and they will have no choice but to surrender. 

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40 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The bottom line is Russia waited until Biden was in office to invade.  They didn't dare try it with Trump.  Trump actually took out a number of Russian soldiers in the attack he authorized against Syria.  Doesn't sound like somebody Putin should be too happy with.

The bottom line is you asked why Putin might prefer Trump to win and I gave you an answer: Many Trumpers sympathize with Putin, a fellow member of the authoritarian far right, and want to abandon Ukraine to his rule. Even Trump's chosen running mate feels this way!

It's called clown range for a reason.

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1 hour ago, snow_wizard said:

FWIW there are plenty of conservatives that predicted months ago the Russia interference narrative would come up again.  Do these clowns ever think of anything new?  No way in hell anyone with a brain is going to believe it.

I have yet to hear a good reason why Russia would want Trump to win anyway.  It's just ridiculous. 

Dude it's literally happening.  Pull the blinders from your face.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-disrupts-covert-russian-government-sponsored-foreign-malign-influence

You criticizing peoples brains for believing in something is about as ironic as it gets.

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