September 2024 PNW Weather Discussion

[Tenochtitlan]

35 minutes ago, Thermal Trough said:

Good news for Ben Noll. He’s going to become a meteorologist in Washington DC. He’s been in New Zealand since 2016. I always enjoy his weather analysis and maps.

 

More interesting place to be a meteorologist than New Zealand, that’s for sure.

[Front Ranger]

2 hours ago, T-Town said:

Winter rating criteria:

1.  How much snow did I get. 
2.  See 1.

No consideration for the QUALITY of the snow?!? Every snowflake is unique, but not equal.

[Front Ranger]

2 hours ago, snow_wizard said:

For me cold is very important too.  I came up with a very complex winter rating system sometime back.  It's a composite of both SEA and PDX so it's more regional.  I'll post that sometime.

I prefer the simpler method of splitting the difference with OLM. Perhaps including EUG to placate twl.

 

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

Lenticulars over Hurricane Ridge!

[Front Ranger]

2 hours ago, Meatyorologist said:

You need to untrap yourself from this othering way of thinking. There are no enemies or villains in the scientific pursuit of knowledge. You constantly try to "own" the "other side" with your cherrypicked graphs ripped from right wing media outlets. I think you spend far too much time on the internet radicalizing yourself and limiting your own worldview. This planet and all the secrets of life are much bigger than "left" versus "right".

To be fair, nothing he posted was political and then you took it there...

You're also not addressing the actual content. You just tried to brush aside and shoot down that graph because of what it showed. And then you went ad hominem with this post.

Focus on facts.

[T-Town]

12 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

No consideration for the QUALITY of the snow?!? Every snowflake is unique, but not equal.

Extra points for blowing and drifting. 

[Front Ranger]

2 hours ago, DeepFriedEgg said:

No, These are all time high temps. I take with a grain of salt because dust bowl basically temporarily changed the climate in the middle of the country. Soil mismanagement by HUMANS.

It wasn't just the dust bowl, though.

And I think it's a simple fallacy to assume the dust bowl was 100% human caused.

EDIT: I see you modified this with later posts admitting a natural component. Smart.

[Phishy Wx]

I found a pic of Snow Wizard and Front Ranger

 

[Front Ranger]

2 hours ago, DeepFriedEgg said:

Nobody who is serious is saying this. Just stop.

Are you a climate alarmism denier? Cause it's definitely real. Even if it's not people running around screaming "we're all gonna die!"

Happy to post 500 "news links" if you want.

[TacomaWx]

Kinda warm out the last couple nights. Went from lows of 44 and 47 on Saturday and Sunday to lows of 60 and 58 the last couple days. Most likely the last really warm lows of the year. 78/58 here today currently a warm 68. 

[TacomaWx]

2 hours ago, T-Town said:

It’s interesting but just not that enjoyable for me. Snow seems to be by far the most universally loved weather phenomenon by the community here. After that there’s a lot of variation as to how excited (or upset) different posters get about different events. I find the universal love of snow kind of interesting because there’s no real rational reason to get so excited about it and yet there’s this group of people who all stare at street lights hoping to see a stray flake. 

I’ve always loved snow since I was a little kid. Me and my brother are both total weather nerds and would watch the models and weather forecasts praying for snow. Even now that I’m 25 and he’s 27 nothings changed! I think if anything I’m more invested after I joined the forum back in October 2018. 

[Groundhog]

10 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

I found a pic of Snow Wizard and Front Ranger

 

There’s a few more of us you can lump with the “dark side.” 

[Groundhog]

Homecoming at the kids’ school this evening. Temp was in the low to mid 70’s, dewpoint mid-60s. Beautiful evening for some fun. 

[Front Ranger]

18 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

I found a pic of Snow Wizard and Front Ranger

 

AGW is absolutely real and the 1930s were absolutely human influenced.

But am I a dum dum for thinking dust clouds might not be favorable for maximizing high temps?

[Front Ranger]

12 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

I’ve always loved snow since I was a little kid. Me and my brother are both total weather nerds and would watch the models and weather forecasts praying for snow. Even now that I’m 25 and he’s 27 nothings changed! I think if anything I’m more invested after I joined the forum back in October 2018. 

There is definitely a weather nerd gene.

Though human influence can play a role too!!

[MossMan]

74/53 on the day. Yummy! 

[RentonHill]

Better think twice before posting or the FACT CHECKER is gonna git ya

[Tenochtitlan]

37 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Are you a climate alarmism denier? Cause it's definitely real. Even if it's not people running around screaming "we're all gonna die!"

Happy to post 500 "news links" if you want.

Yeah, but there has been very little of that alarmism on this forum. No one here is saying “Venus by Tuesday” (that’s kind of a meme on Reddit about climate doomerism), so it comes across as misplaced when anyone on here who believes AGW is a serious concern is labeled as brainwashed by certain other posters.

[DeepFriedEgg]

43 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Are you a climate alarmism denier? Cause it's definitely real. Even if it's not people running around screaming "we're all gonna die!"

Happy to post 500 "news links" if you want.

I’d be willing to bet there are more climate change deniers than climate alarmists. I could be totally wrong though.

[Phishy Wx]

29 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

AGW is absolutely real and the 1930s were absolutely human influenced.

But am I a dum dum for thinking dust clouds might not be favorable for maximizing high temps?

just some playful ribbing.  all good

[Phishy Wx]

27 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

There is definitely a weather nerd gene.

Though human influence can play a role too!!

 

[Phishy Wx]

Speaking of Dust Storms

 

 

 

[Cold Snap]

5 hours ago, snow_wizard said:

This one has the ULL over the continent to direct it though.  Pretty unusual to have something to direct it like that.

Yeah that is true. Looks like the cone has shifted slightly west on tonight’s NHC update.

[Front Ranger]

16 minutes ago, Tenochtitlan said:

Yeah, but there has been very little of that alarmism on this forum. No one here is saying “Venus by Tuesday” (that’s kind of a meme on Reddit about climate doomerism), so it comes across as misplaced when anyone on here who believes AGW is a serious concern is labeled as brainwashed by certain other posters.

It really does go both ways, of course. I've seen anyone who questions climate alarmism labeled as a denier, on this forum.

Binary views on nuanced topics are stupid. 

[SpaceRace22]

1 hour ago, Front Ranger said:

To be fair, nothing he posted was political and then you took it there...

You're also not addressing the actual content. You just tried to brush aside and shoot down that graph because of what it showed. And then you went ad hominem with this post.

Focus on facts.

Referring to people who believe in basic, well established scientific facts as "the global warming crowd" isn't political?

[Tenochtitlan]

1 minute ago, Front Ranger said:

It really does go both ways, of course. I've seen anyone who questions climate alarmism labeled as a denier, on this forum.

Binary views on nuanced topics are stupid. 

There is at least one person on here who does deny AGW, if I’m not mistaken.

Of course, debating about specifics or scope of impacts is not the same as outright denial that AGW is happening. 

[Front Ranger]

15 minutes ago, DeepFriedEgg said:

I’d be willing to bet there are more climate change deniers than climate alarmists. I could be totally wrong though.

Not in the media. And I honestly don't follow strictly right or left sources. 

I see way more climate change articles clearly designed to scare you on Google news than I see ones denying climate change.

It's kinda the default for the media to point to climate change as the boogeyman any time there's a natural disaster. Just stupid.

And anyone denying media influence on culture is naive.

[Front Ranger]

5 minutes ago, SpaceRace22 said:

Referring to people who believe in basic, well established scientific facts as "the global warming crowd" isn't political?

Frame it how you want, but meatyrologist's post was derogatory on an individual level towards snow wizard, not to mention obvious ad hominem.

F*ck politics, especially election years.

[Tenochtitlan]

2 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Frame it how you want, but meatyrologist's post was derogatory on an individual level towards snow wizard, not to mention obvious ad hominem.

F*ck politics, especially election years.

Ad hominem—perhaps , but then saying people are “brainwashed” surely is ad hominem too? 

[Deweydog]

See! We can do drama without Jesse!

WTG guys!!

[Front Ranger]

1 minute ago, Tenochtitlan said:

Ad hominem—perhaps , but then saying people are “brainwashed” surely is ad hominem too? 

Except he didn't level that towards a particular individual, unlike the vitriol spewed directly at him.

There is a difference, and personal attacks will not be tolerated.

[Tenochtitlan]

5 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Except he didn't level that towards a particular individual, unlike the vitriol spewed directly at him.

There is a difference, and personal attacks will not be tolerated.

That’s fair. I did think the post against him was unnecessarily harsh…

[Slushy Inch]

7 minutes ago, Tenochtitlan said:

Ad hominem—perhaps , but then saying people are “brainwashed” surely is ad hominem too? 

And “uneducated”. As used last time.

[Tenochtitlan]

Just now, Slushy Inch said:

And “uneducated”. As used last time.

Hmm. Yeah, I’m not a fan of that choice of words. 

[Snownerd3000]

[Slushy Inch]

5 minutes ago, Snownerd3000 said:

For real. Just the fact that people on here are interested in and get excited about weather is awesome. No matter the disagreements it’s a lot of fun on here with everyone. 

[Slushy Inch]

25 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

See! We can do drama without Jesse!

WTG guys!!

I think we are antsy in anticipation of Winter and the election.

[Deweydog]

Speaking of winter, three months from RIGHT NOW Santa will be in flight!

And we MAY know the outcome of the election!

[SpaceRace22]

57 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Not in the media. And I honestly don't follow strictly right or left sources. 

I see way more climate change articles clearly designed to scare you on Google news than I see ones denying climate change.

It's kinda the default for the media to point to climate change as the boogeyman any time there's a natural disaster. Just stupid.

And anyone denying media influence on culture is naive.

Again, implying that climate change is scarier than it is not the equivalent of outright denying that it's real. The actual comparison here would be the lunatics saying that climate change is going to literally kill all humans and people who outright deny it.

I dare you to find a single mainstream media article claiming that we are literally all going to die from climate change.

[Timmy]

Nice day!  The stink bugs are back. 

Edited September 25 by Timmy