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8 hours ago, Front Ranger said:

Not my opinion. Just been reading. 

FWIW. Maybe it's fake news, but does seem to make some sense.

https://www.itpro.com/business/business-strategy/there-are-other-companies-around-aws-ceo-matt-garman-says-employees-pushing-back-on-rto-mandates-should-quit

https://www.fastcompany.com/91216857/silent-firing-is-the-new-quiet-quitting

 

This is not just a theory, though. If you think of a large company that has been preparing for automation more than any other, you would put Amazon or perhaps Tesla at the top. So when Amazon is pushing a five day in-office workweek, despite the fact that 90% of their employees are “dissatisfied” and 73% are considering quitting, it doesn’t really fit with the “cool tech office” vibes of the past. Did one of the smartest data driven companies forget how to use data? Did they forget that according to Global Workplace Analytics, 65% of employers report that remote work has increased productivity, and that 95% of employers reported that remote work has increased retention? We can’t assume that Amazon is naive, especially to this last number. Maybe Amazon is silently firing workers by making the workplace inhospitable. Because the best way to decrease retention while saving on severance would be to remove remote work. 

 

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1 hour ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

If they really cared about productivity for tech workers, they would stop designing offices around the principle that people who do difficult work requiring mental concentration are the most productive when interruptions are maximized and privacy minimized. It's called giving workers private (or at least semi-private) offices. Have worked at places where even quiet rooms are rare and hard to get time in.

The old Google campus had the one amenity people clamored for, full height cubicles. It was the same at Microsoft a decade ago. Maybe those can make a return and we can go full 90s again.

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8 minutes ago, iFred said:

The old Google campus had the one amenity people clamored for, full height cubicles. It was the same at Microsoft a decade ago. Maybe those can make a return and we can go full 90s again.

Back in the day I griped that cubes were insufficiently private because they let conversation carry unacceptably. Little did I know it was the good old days.

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21 minutes ago, Tyler Mode said:

A couple from the real camera.  Few sprinkle falling here, typical after a great sunrise. The real amazing ones have rain falling as I'm getting into the car.

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Wow!  Those are some great pics.  We had a great sunrise this morning, but my pics pale in comparison.

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Winter 2024-25 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.0

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

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47F and cloudy with some rain on the way.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2024-25 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 58F (Oct 22, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 30F (Oct 24, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 1 (Most recent: Oct 24, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 0 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last ice storm accumulation: Jan 16, 2024 (2.25”)
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Total ice since joining TheWeatherForums: 2.25"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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7 minutes ago, Sunriver Snow Zone said:

Wow, our sunrise was great, but that red in your photos is just amazing! 

 

Here's some photos I got from the sunrise on tumalo mountain this morning

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2023-24: 39.5"                   2023-24: 76.88

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 73.43"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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Raining HARD here in Salem. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2023-24: 39.5"                   2023-24: 76.88

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 73.43"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Cascades of Lane County-
Including the cities of Waldo Lake and Willamette Pass
327 AM PDT Wed Oct 30 2024

...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 2 PM THIS AFTERNOON
TO 5 PM PDT FRIDAY...

* WHAT...Heavy snow expected. Total snow accumulations up to 12
  inches from 3500-5000 feet and up to 24 inches along higher
  terrain. Up to 30 inches above 6000 feet.

* WHERE...Cascades of Lane County.

* WHEN...From 2 PM this afternoon to 5 PM PDT Friday.

* IMPACTS...Roads, and especially bridges and overpasses, will
  likely become slick and hazardous. Travel could be very difficult
  to impossible. The hazardous conditions could impact the Wednesday
  evening and Thursday morning commutes.
North Oregon Cascades-Cascades of Marion and Linn Counties-South
Washington Cascades-
Including the cities of Tombstone Summit, Breitenbush Springs,
Lost Lake, Santiam Pass, Indian Heaven Wilderness, Santiam
Junction, Timothy Lake, Mt. St. Helens, McKenzie Pass, Government
Camp, Larch Mountain, and Bennett Pass
327 AM PDT Wed Oct 30 2024

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 2 PM THIS
AFTERNOON TO 5 PM PDT FRIDAY...

* WHAT...Snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 6-12 inches
  except up to 16 inches along the tops of the volcanos (above 5500
  feet).

* WHERE...In Oregon, North Oregon Cascades and Cascades of Marion
  and Linn Counties. In Washington, South Washington Cascades.

* WHEN...From 2 PM this afternoon to 5 PM PDT Friday.

* IMPACTS...Roads, and especially bridges and overpasses, will
  likely become slick and hazardous. Travel could be very difficult
  to impossible. The hazardous conditions could impact the Wednesday
  evening and Thursday morning commutes.
East Slopes of the Oregon Cascades-
Including the cities of Camp Sherman, Sunriver, Sisters, and La
Pine
623 AM PDT Wed Oct 30 2024

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 2 PM THIS
AFTERNOON TO 5 PM PDT FRIDAY ABOVE 4000 FEET...

* WHAT...Wet snow expected above 4000 feet. Total snow accumulations
  up to 8 inches between 4000 and 5000 feet, with up to 16 inches
  above 5000 feet.

* WHERE...East Slopes of the Oregon Cascades.

* WHEN...From 2 PM this afternoon to 5 PM PDT Friday.

* IMPACTS...Periods of moderate and heavy snow will combine with low
  visibilities to create difficult driving conditions.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...A broad, slow-moving system will bring
  significant snowfall across the Oregon Cascades this afternoon
  through Friday. A slight lull in snowfall is forecast tonight
  before returning Thursday morning.
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Snowfall                                  Precip

2023-24: 39.5"                   2023-24: 76.88

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 73.43"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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12 hours ago, BLI snowman said:

Speaking of nice climates, anyone want to buy a house in the U.P of Michigan with me?

I married into a family that owns a few small cabins around Hughes Lake deep in the woods of the UP. They have been in the family since 1906. I have visited a few times, cool place. Only mode of transport in winter is a snowmobile. 

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PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220

2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events)

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3 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

I married into a family that owns a few small cabins around Hughes Lake deep in the woods of the UP. They have been in the family since 1906. I have visited a few times, cool place. Only mode of transport in winter is a snowmobile. 

That's cool. I've thought about the UP of Michigan, but I've heard the bugs are horrific in the summer.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2023-24: 39.5"                   2023-24: 76.88

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 73.43"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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2 hours ago, Front Ranger said:

As someone who's been in tech almost 20 years I'm sure it's a bit of both. RTO satisfies the needs of workaholic management freaks who can justify eschewing their families in order to to see their employees in chairs at the office while simultaneously trimming headcount in a way that doesn't generate business is cratering headlines.

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10 minutes ago, OysterPrintout said:

As someone who's been in tech almost 20 years I'm sure it's a bit of both. RTO satisfies the needs of workaholic management freaks who can justify eschewing their families in order to to see their employees in chairs at the office while simultaneously trimming headcount in a way that doesn't generate business is cratering headlines.

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25 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

That's cool. I've thought about the UP of Michigan, but I've heard the bugs are horrific in the summer.

May to late June it is absolutely unlivable due to bugs. Even summers are not great. 

PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220

2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events)

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18 minutes ago, OysterPrintout said:

As someone who's been in tech almost 20 years I'm sure it's a bit of both. RTO satisfies the needs of workaholic management freaks who can justify eschewing their families in order to to see their employees in chairs at the office while simultaneously trimming headcount in a way that doesn't generate business is cratering headlines.

The attrition angle is more of a "cherry on top" situation though. FAANG layoffs read less about "they've AOL'd themselves" and more "why should it cost us to have Oyster at 450k when we can have 10 Oysters in Krakow."

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Just now, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

May to late June it is absolutely unlivable due to bugs. Even summers are not great. 

Probably a dealbreaker for me. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2023-24: 39.5"                   2023-24: 76.88

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 73.43"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Seems like climo is trying to win out in the first half of November. The ridge is super transient and the +T850 anomalies last for maybe 3-4 days at most. So we catch a brief window to dry out and get some sun, followed by wet period mid-month. Saving the cold for December is also fantastic for those of us who are directly at sea level, I don't need to see more chunky rain. 

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18 minutes ago, RentonHill said:

Looks like a strong PV for a while. 

 

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It’s over.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2024-25 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 58F (Oct 22, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 30F (Oct 24, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 1 (Most recent: Oct 24, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 0 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last ice storm accumulation: Jan 16, 2024 (2.25”)
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Total ice since joining TheWeatherForums: 2.25"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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32 minutes ago, RentonHill said:

Looks like a strong PV for a while. 

 

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It gets pointed out every year, but the PNW does not need the PV to come down here for the Western lowlands to get cold and snow.  Those won't be top-tier events, but nobody would complain about getting snow if it isn't from the PV coming south.  

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4 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

If they really cared about productivity for tech workers, they would stop designing offices around the principle that people who do difficult work requiring mental concentration are the most productive when interruptions are maximized and privacy minimized. It's called giving workers private (or at least semi-private) offices. Have worked at places where even quiet rooms are rare and hard to get time in.

I worked for a gaming company in the 90's that developed the casino network slot systems (where you have a whole bank of slot machines feeding into a mega jackpot).  They also did the player cards to track customer play and loyalty rewards programs.  It's common now, but back then is was brand new technology

 

The office set up consisted of a series of pods.  Off of the main hallway was a round-ish room with offices all around the circle, so each engineer had their own office.  We had a Sheldon (Big Bang Theory) type guy who was the definition of "nerd"  He had his own huge work area/laboratory, and designed an all in one motherboard before it was really a thing.  This was the early 90's when there was still separate cards for just about everything (Sound, video, network, Hard Drive controllers, etc). 

We also had a guy who worked for Atari, and was one of the creators for all of the big arcade classics from the 80's.  He had a huge collection of prototype and one off versions of games, and he had them set up in one of the empty pods.  We could walk in and play them anytime we wanted.  Pole Position, Space Invaders, Donkey Kong, Pac Man. 

All of the designers/programmers had their own space, pretty much came and went as they pleased, and it was amongst the best places I ever worked, and everyone felt the same way.  The turnover was pretty much zero.  All new hires were thanks to growth.  I almost got a trip to Australia to support an installation there, but as my luck would have it, we had just hired a production guy who was American, but had just moved back from Australia (and had an Australian wife).  He already had his passport, and visa to work there, so he was the chosen one (rotten b*stard!)

Without question, the best places I've worked at were small software/hardware companies in the 90's. 

 

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