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Definitely was decent shear earlier. May have moved on for now but that was fun!

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2024-25 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 51F (Oct 30, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 29F (Oct 25, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 2ย (Most recent: Oct 25, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 0ย (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Lastย ice storm accumulation: Jan 16, 2024 (2.25โ€)
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024ย (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Total ice since joining TheWeatherForums: 2.25"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

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50/43 on the day.

Currently raining and 44.

.23โ€ on the day, 6.38โ€ on the month.ย 

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Elevation 580โ€™ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth!ย 

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I have already passed last yearโ€™s rainfall total.ย 
I typically average 60โ€ a year, last year was a dry one.ย 

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Up to 5.1โ€ in October as of 5pm. Should end up at or above 6โ€ on the month. Right about average. November averages about 11โ€.ย 

Snowfallย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  Precip

2023-24: 39.5"ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย 2023-24: 76.88

2022-23: 95.0"ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  2022-23: 73.43"

2021-22: 52.6"ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  2021-22: 91.46"ย 

2020-21: 12.0"ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย 2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย 2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย 2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย 2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย 2012-13: 78.45ย ย 

2011-12: 98.5"ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย 2011-12: 92.67"

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2 hours ago, Jbolin said:

IGT or WMS?ย 

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4 hours ago, iFred said:

When I was at Cisco, they were and still are apparently still big into the full height cube setup. Some of the offices I visited would modify the cubes so you'd have "leisure rooms" that'd either just be some beanbags or go as far as having hidden stashes of programmers juice. Google was the same way with having something special setup for people to get away and get work done.

Also, I think I know what company you are talking about. Worked with them in the cloud space and was always jealous of my colleagues who would go down to Vegas and spend 7-10 days driving Ferraris are having "work sessions" that what I suspect is your company would pay for.

It was Acres Gaming, but they did get bought by IGT.ย  The Founder of Acres was very well known in the casino circles and started out in Vegas (he might have even worked for IGT as a software developer), but decided he didn't want to raise his kids there.ย  He settled down in Corvallis for the small town vibe and the strong tech workforce through the HP facility there.ย  He took care of his employees but wasn't overly extravagant about it (though I heard stories about IGT and WMS).ย 

That said, after we completed that job in Australia, he gave all of the production and production support people $1,000 from his personal checking account, which was very respectable for folks making $8-10/hour.ย  There was about 20 of us.ย  We even had a gal who's first day was the day he handed out checks.ย  After he thanked all of us for our hard work, he said everyone should have a check, and when he asked if he missed anyone, we all pointedย  to her.ย  She said "but its my first day".ย  His wife pulled out the checkbook and handed it to him and he wrote her a check on the spot.ย  When he handed it to her, he said "I meant it when I said everyone, so consider this a down payment on future hard work....welcome aboard"

When we got the contract, he talked to us often about the importance of that contract, and how it would be game changers for us as employees and the company.ย  He stopped by often to ask how we were doing.ย  I think we had less than 10 failures out of the box on over 10,000 assemblies sent (card readers, controllers and display boards on the slot machines, wire harnesses, and the big display boards that hung over the bank of machines).ย  He said the industry "standard" was about 2-4% failures out of the box.ย  Beyond that bonus, we ended up with a Christmas gift at the end of the year and healthy pay raises, so he definitely shared the wealth.

After that we developed the specialized PC board I mentioned earlier which drove animations on a 46" plasma TV, back when those went for about $12-15k a piece.ย  ย  It was interesting to see over $150k worth of TVs show up in our receiving department when that campaign launched.ย  I hand built the first 10 circuit boards to be used for initial testing and debugging.ย  That was a solid week of very fine detail soldering under a microscope.ย  I also assembled, configured and tested the computers, so I had a Plasma at my desk, one of the repair techs had one at his desk, and about a half dozen developers had them at their desk, plus another half dozen in our test center and showroom.ย  Reminds me of one of the other perks of the job....our IT manager was a gamer, so we had LAN parties after hours (DOOM and I think Duke Nuke 'em), with me and the repair tech playing on *our* 46" plasma TVs.ย  ๐Ÿ˜

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I miss those days and working for people and places like that.ย  Now I work for a company that does nothing like that and where some of the managers have looked at employees and point blank reminded them "You are replaceable"ย  Fortunately, I have not worked for any of those managers.

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10 minutes ago, Chewbacca Defense said:

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It was Acres Gaming, but they did get bought by IGT.ย  The Founder of Acres was very well known in the casino circles and started out in Vegas (he might have even worked for IGT as a software developer), but decided he didn't want to raise his kids there.ย  He settled down in Corvallis for the small town vibe and the strong tech workforce through the HP facility there.ย  He took care of his employees but wasn't overly extravagant about it (though I heard stories about IGT and WMS).ย 

That said, after we completed that job in Australia, he gave all of the production and production support people $1,000 from his personal checking account, which was very respectable for folks making $8-10/hour.ย  There was about 20 of us.ย  We even had a gal who's first day was the day he handed out checks.ย  After he thanked all of us for our hard work, he said everyone should have a check, and when he asked if he missed anyone, we all pointedย  to her.ย  She said "but its my first day".ย  His wife pulled out the checkbook and handed it to him and he wrote her a check on the spot.ย  When he handed it to her, he said "I meant it when I said everyone, so consider this a down payment on future hard work....welcome aboard"

When we got the contract, he talked to us often about the importance of that contract, and how it would be game changers for us as employees and the company.ย  He stopped by often to ask how we were doing.ย  I think we had less than 10 failures out of the box on over 10,000 assemblies sent (card readers, controllers and display boards on the slot machines, wire harnesses, and the big display boards that hung over the bank of machines).ย  He said the industry "standard" was about 2-4% failures out of the box.ย  Beyond that bonus, we ended up with a Christmas gift at the end of the year and healthy pay raises, so he definitely shared the wealth.

After that we developed the specialized PC board I mentioned earlier which drove animations on a 46" plasma TV, back when those went for about $12-15k a piece.ย  ย  It was interesting to see over $150k worth of TVs show up in our receiving department when that campaign launched.ย  I hand built the first 10 circuit boards to be used for initial testing and debugging.ย  That was a solid week of very fine detail soldering under a microscope.ย  I also assembled, configured and tested the computers, so I had a Plasma at my desk, one of the repair techs had one at his desk, and about a half dozen developers had them at their desk, plus another half dozen in our test center and showroom.ย  Reminds me of one of the other perks of the job....our IT manager was a gamer, so we had LAN parties after hours (DOOM and I think Duke Nuke 'em), with me and the repair tech playing on *our* 46" plasma TVs.ย  ๐Ÿ˜

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I miss those days and working for people and places like that.ย  Now I work for a company that does nothing like that and where some of the managers have looked at employees and point blank reminded them "You are replaceable"ย  Fortunately, I have not worked for any of those managers.

So did you actually work on the technical or hardware side?

Are we talking about well known early versions of Class II games/cabinets, i.e. "Bingo Games" or what would become RNG (Class III) games?ย 

I know a little bit about the industry, it's the only reason I ask. But very cool story and insight nonetheless.

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7 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Max of 48.0หšF before noon, now 44.8หšF. Have already had one or two days of sub-50 highs this season so not the first one.

Up to 0.31" for the day.

3rd sub 50 high here today. We are just a week away from the average high being in the 40s. ย Averages are dropping quickly this time of year.ย 

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1 hour ago, MossMan said:

I have already passed last yearโ€™s rainfall total.ย 
I typically average 60โ€ a year, last year was a dry one.ย 

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Last year I only had 27.5" of rain and I'm already at almost 32". I average just over 37" a year so unless November and December are record dry, I should end up a couple inches above average by the end of the year.

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Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009) ย  Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)ย ย  Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)ย ย  Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)ย ย  Avg Yearly Precip: 37"ย  ย 10yr Avg Snow: 8.1"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" |ย '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5"ย | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5"ย | '21-22: 21.75"ย | '22-23: 10.0"ย | '23-24: 7.0"

2024-25: 0.0"

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52 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

3rd sub 50 high here today. We are just a week away from the average high being in the 40s. ย Averages are dropping quickly this time of year.ย 

Finally chilly enough to burn our wood stove without it making the house too warm.

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Winter 2024-25 stats

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Total Snowfall = 0.0

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.0

Coldest Low = 33

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

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1 minute ago, Jbolin said:

So did you actually work on the technical or hardware side?

Are we talking about well known early versions of Class II games/cabinets, i.e. "Bingo Games" or what would become RNG (Class III) games?ย 

I know a little bit about the industry, it's the only reason I ask. But very cool story and insight nonetheless.

I guess more hardware side.ย  I didn't really have any tech troubleshooting skills, other than being a smarta$$, taking a failed board with a charred chip on it to the tech, pointing at said charred chip and saying "I think that one let all its magic smoke out"ย 

I was a production worker who happened to be a computer geek.ย  My first couple of years there I just built and tested circuit boards and wire harnesses.ย  I also built my own computers and helped friends build theirs as a hobby.ย  So when the new product line came about, I was a natural fit for it.ย  I worked at a couple of board houses before working there, so I already had a lot of soldering experience.ย  I was one of the fastest/most proficient solderers, especially when it came to really small/fine pitch chips, and big grid array sockets for the processor, which also helped get me looped in on the project pretty much from the start.

As for the games/cabinets, I have no idea (I left that job in 1999).ย  I vaguely remember games being referenced as Class II or III, but I don't remember how that translates to what we did.ย  Our test center had a dozen or so "one arm bandits" traditional slot machines, as well as a few video slot machines.ย  I don't think we had any video poker type machines.ย  Our stuff went into casinos in Vegas, Reno, and to a lesser extent New Jersey and some Indian Casinos (there were not many back then).ย  The big contract in Australia was for the Mandalay Bay Casino in Sydney.ย  I just remembered the name of the product/system we were selling.."Progressive Jackpot" where a small percentage of every dollar played in a bank of machines went towards the bigger progressive jackpot.ย  I think they liked to get it up into 7 figures before allowing that to be won, but I think it depended on how much money went through that casino.ย 

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I got to read one of the spec papers that was to be submitted to Nevada Gaming for approval, and it talked about how the jackpot had to get to a certain level to start triggering a random number generator with some crazy set of algorithms to come up with a value, and I think a whole other crazy set of algorithms was doing its thing, and there might have even been a third and 4th.ย  The calculations were completely independent of each other, and I think when they all spit out the same number, there was a winner.ย  There was also logic about the numbers that went into thee algorithm.ย  I think those were generated by a random number generator as well.ย  I think there was also an element in the calculation process to increase the likelihood of a winner the more times the calculation was performed (otherwise you could theoretically go "forever" without a winner)...maybe it gradually narrowed the number of solutions the algorithms could spit out?ย  I can't remember any more.

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I have this weird feeling that 11/20-11/30 is ripe for something good. I don't ever recall seeing so many pre-season hints for cold & snow across so many different long range models. So many different things are start to flirt with possibilities around mid-month. Seems crazy early for this but idk, I don't normally model ride the super long range in October like this.

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The goods are awful close on these:

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Starting to flirt with it even in the regular ensembles now too:

ecmwf-ensemble-KSEA-indiv_snow_24-0289600.png

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2 hours ago, MossMan said:

I have already passed last yearโ€™s rainfall total.ย 
I typically average 60โ€ a year, last year was a dry one.ย 

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Wow....that's a lot of friggin rain!ย  I'm missing data from the AR a couple of weeks ago, my gauge says 34.45" but I am guessing its probably closer to 36.5"

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Just now, SpaceRace22 said:

I have this weird feeling that 11/20-11/30 is ripe for something good. I don't ever recall seeing so many pre-season hints for cold & snow across so many different long range models. So many different things are start to flirt with possibilities around mid-month. Seems crazy early for this but idk, I don't normally model ride the super long range in October like this.

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gfs-ensemble-extended-all-c00-conus-t2m_f_anom_7day-2752000 (1).png

ecmwf-ensemble-KSEA-indiv_snow_24-0289600.png

In the past month weโ€™ve seen fun stuff hinted from late November through February across most of the long range stuff. Maybe something to it, but Iโ€™m not holding my breath.

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8 minutes ago, SpaceRace22 said:

I have this weird feeling that 11/20-11/30 is ripe for something good. I don't ever recall seeing so many pre-season hints for cold & snow across so many different long range models. So many different things are start to flirt with possibilities around mid-month. Seems crazy early for this but idk, I don't normally model ride the super long range in October like this.

Starting to flirt with it even in the regular ensembles now too:

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The models are trying to get there.ย  No doubt November is capable.ย  SEA had single digit lows about two weeks from now in 1955.ย  That was one mind blowing cold wave for sure!

My guess is maybe some warning shot type stuff later in November and then something bigger in December.

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Winter 2024-25 stats

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Total Snowfall = 0.0

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.0

Coldest Low = 33

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

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1 minute ago, Perturbed Member said:

Real nice to be back to watching models, looking at the radar/sat and looking at traffic cams again. Have had my window open and enjoying some of these nice heavy showers.

Won't be long now before we start tracking arctic air and rooting for lows to go north or south.ย 

We need a nice assortment of lows so everyone gets snow.

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Total Snowfall = 0.0

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.0

Coldest Low = 33

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

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4 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The models are trying to get there.ย  No doubt November is capable.ย  SEA had single digit lows about two weeks from now in 1955.ย  That was one mind blowing cold wave for sure!

My guess is maybe some warning shot type stuff later in November and then something bigger in December.

Itโ€™s been awhile since weโ€™ve had a significant snow in November.ย 

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7 hours ago, MossMan said:

I should take Friday off and put up the Christmas lights since we will be past Halloween and officially in the holiday season!ย 

I've had my lights and tree up since August, I follow the Costco Holiday calendar!

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Kidding.....I have always been a die hard "not until after Thanksgiving" person, though as I have gotten older....there is a *unless the weather is going to suck* caveat.ย  To quote Murtaugh:

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I'll still wait until Thanksgiving night to turn them on.

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25 minutes ago, Chewbacca Defense said:

I guess more hardware side.ย  I didn't really have any tech troubleshooting skills, other than being a smarta$$, taking a failed board with a charred chip on it to the tech, pointing at said charred chip and saying "I think that one let all its magic smoke out"ย 

I was a production worker who happened to be a computer geek.ย  My first couple of years there I just built and tested circuit boards and wire harnesses.ย  I also built my own computers and helped friends build theirs as a hobby.ย  So when the new product line came about, I was a natural fit for it.ย  I worked at a couple of board houses before working there, so I already had a lot of soldering experience.ย  I was one of the fastest/most proficient solderers, especially when it came to really small/fine pitch chips, and big grid array sockets for the processor, which also helped get me looped in on the project pretty much from the start.

As for the games/cabinets, I have no idea (I left that job in 1999).ย  I vaguely remember games being referenced as Class II or III, but I don't remember how that translates to what we did.ย  Our test center had a dozen or so "one arm bandits" traditional slot machines, as well as a few video slot machines.ย  I don't think we had any video poker type machines.ย  Our stuff went into casinos in Vegas, Reno, and to a lesser extent New Jersey and some Indian Casinos (there were not many back then).ย  The big contract in Australia was for the Mandalay Bay Casino in Sydney.ย  I just remembered the name of the product/system we were selling.."Progressive Jackpot" where a small percentage of every dollar played in a bank of machines went towards the bigger progressive jackpot.ย  I think they liked to get it up into 7 figures before allowing that to be won, but I think it depended on how much money went through that casino.ย 

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I got to read one of the spec papers that was to be submitted to Nevada Gaming for approval, and it talked about how the jackpot had to get to a certain level to start triggering a random number generator with some crazy set of algorithms to come up with a value, and I think a whole other crazy set of algorithms was doing its thing, and there might have even been a third and 4th.ย  The calculations were completely independent of each other, and I think when they all spit out the same number, there was a winner.ย  There was also logic about the numbers that went into thee algorithm.ย  I think those were generated by a random number generator as well.ย  I think there was also an element in the calculation process to increase the likelihood of a winner the more times the calculation was performed (otherwise you could theoretically go "forever" without a winner)...maybe it gradually narrowed the number of solutions the algorithms could spit out?ย  I can't remember any more.

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So the projects you worked on for the Australia side sounds like it was for Class I "pokies" and would've been (I believe) Aristocrat gaming. That's actually cool.ย 

As far as RNG/Class III games. There are a multitude of different algorithmic scenarios for fixed payline games but as you mentioned when it came to progressive/s and linked progressive/s (in house) the RNG values were d**n near lottery like and linked (out of state) progressives like Mega Bucks...fukin' forget it bro ๐Ÿ˜…ย 

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24 minutes ago, SpaceRace22 said:

I have this weird feeling that 11/20-11/30 is ripe for something good. I don't ever recall seeing so many pre-season hints for cold & snow across so many different long range models. So many different things are start to flirt with possibilities around mid-month. Seems crazy early for this but idk, I don't normally model ride the super long range in October like this.

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gfs-ensemble-extended-all-c00-conus-t2m_f_anom_7day-2752000 (1).png

The goods are awful close on these:

ecmwf-weeklies-c00-namer-t850_anom_7day-3356800.thumb.png.93a0a687628af0eea52ee89b760aa3a4.png

cfs-daily-all-c00-namer-t850_anom_7day-3443200.thumb.png.8ddfec66a6c27a498a0a4ae85cc88879.png

Starting to flirt with it even in the regular ensembles now too:

ecmwf-ensemble-KSEA-indiv_snow_24-0289600.png

Control runs are going to be all over the place.

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6 minutes ago, Jbolin said:

So the projects you worked on for the Australia side sounds like it was for Class I "pokies" and would've been (I believe) Aristocrat gaming. That's actually cool.ย 

As far as RNG/Class III games. There are a multitude of different algorithmic scenarios for fixed payline games but as you mentioned when it came to progressive/s and linked progressive/s (in house) the RNG values were d**n near lottery like and linked (out of state) progressives like Mega Bucks...fukin' forget it bro ๐Ÿ˜…ย 

Huh?

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Winter 2024-25 stats

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Total Snowfall = 0.0

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.0

Coldest Low = 33

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

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17 minutes ago, SnowWillarrive said:

Itโ€™s been awhile since weโ€™ve had a significant snow in November.ย 

It has been a while.ย  Nov 2010 was the last noteworthy one.ย  And it was noteworthy!ย 

I would rank that one number 4 since at least 1890.

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Total Snowfall = 0.0

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.0

Coldest Low = 33

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

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27 minutes ago, SpaceRace22 said:

Actually, wow, look at this model agreement from the control runs of the extended suites. This is kind of crazy for being over a month out. Those are some impressive anomalies over BC.

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Looks like something that would blast us with rain.

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Winter is never boring if you appreciate its context in the earth climate system. We're smack-dab right over the meridian line, the halfway point between the equator and the north pole, exactly where airstreams arriving from both regions on our planet collide in a fantastic, everlasting battle.

Hot thunderstorm updrafts over the ITCZ expel outwards in a vast current of air high aloft, flowing north, descending like a waterfall as it radiates its heat to space, carrying an immense amount of energy, both from the maximal equatorial surface heating, as well as its relative rotational velocity of well over one thousand miles per hour.

Glance 6200 miles to the north of the source of all this hot air, and you'll find the mouth of this grand atmospheric river: the north pole. Here, isotherms once only belonging to the highest portions of the atmosphere over the equator, now touch the surface of the earth. The coldest air from the highest thunderstorm tops descend and pool onto the surface of Earth, hugging the icy ground, opening into a dense, soupy sea; a churning vortex of viscous bitter air, mixing and broiling due to the high vorticity found close to the poles. At the ground, this pooling air is forced outward by an ongoing influx of more pooling air, so it escapes back south into the midlatitudes.

When you look up towards the sky in the winter, you are viewing a single piece of this whole picture.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining:ย 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21:ย 13"

-2021-22:ย 8.75"

-2022-23:ย 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall:ย 0.25โ€; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm):ย 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth:ย 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest:ย 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 40

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4 hours ago, SnowWillarrive said:

Itโ€™s been awhile since weโ€™ve had a significant snow in November.ย 

Itโ€™s been a while since we last had a significant snow here at all. Last time was Dec 2021. Everything since was bush league and melted almost immediately.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2024-25 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 51F (Oct 30, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 29F (Oct 25, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 2ย (Most recent: Oct 25, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 0ย (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Lastย ice storm accumulation: Jan 16, 2024 (2.25โ€)
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024ย (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Total ice since joining TheWeatherForums: 2.25"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

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1 hour ago, Ken in Wood Village said:

I just saw this ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿคฏ

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I felt a lil bit of some swaying but it was minor. Not sure if there was an aftershock or not.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2024-25 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 51F (Oct 30, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 29F (Oct 25, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 2ย (Most recent: Oct 25, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 0ย (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Lastย ice storm accumulation: Jan 16, 2024 (2.25โ€)
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024ย (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Total ice since joining TheWeatherForums: 2.25"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

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Given what long range ensembles are showing and leading analogs for this winter and the upcoming period, I think the most likely scenario for November is:

1. Quite warm the first 2/3 of the month for most of the nation, particularly the northern tier.

2. Very wet first 2-3 weeks of month for PNW.

3. Flip to cooler and somewhat drier late in the month.

4. Strong signal for a much colder December nationally, with at least one Arctic blast likely late November to mid December period.

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