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Wow! Can't believe how wet the Euro is looking, even for my side of the mountains. 

Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2024-2025 Snowfall totals:

HIghest snow total (per event): 

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 

First Freeze: 10/18/24

Last Sub freezing Day: 

Coldest low: 28F on 11/6/24

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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Weird.  I went outside a dozen times and it never looked like anything was happening.

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Total Snowfall = 0.0

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.0

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

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6 minutes ago, iFred said:

Was at Ross Lake from 9:45 to 11pm. Had to leave early for a family obligation, but it looks like I caught the bulk. I’d say it was close to May, maybe **-for-tat on features. The May storm was a bit more vibrant, but didn’t cover the entire sky the way this did. Also this seemed to have dancing ribbons that spanned the northern sky which moved north to south. May had pulsing and in Canada a group of us were pretty convinced we heard buzzing. May also faintly illuminated the interior of my car, this one did not.

Still worth the drive.

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Best substorm was around 12:30. I’m charging for the next.

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2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events)

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3 minutes ago, iFred said:

Was at Ross Lake from 9:45 to 11pm. Had to leave early for a family obligation, but it looks like I caught the bulk. I’d say it was close to May, maybe **-for-tat on features. The May storm was a bit more vibrant, but didn’t cover the entire sky the way this did. Also this seemed to have dancing ribbons that spanned the northern sky which moved north to south. May had pulsing and in Canada a group of us were pretty convinced we heard buzzing. May also faintly illuminated the interior of my car, this one did not.

Still worth the drive.

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I only caught part of this show (standing outside for about 1.5 hours and then heading out every half an hour to check for a few minutes) while in May I spent the whole night outside, but in my opinion May was significantly stronger/more impressive. May caused me to swerve off to the side of the road as I was driving to stare in awe--the pieces I saw of this storm left me wanting significantly more and feeling somewhat disappointed (additional clouds and light pollution where I was tonight didn't help the matter).

I think the biggest difference was the intensity. There were colors in May that were comparable to rainbows I've seen during the daytime, if not stronger. I could read by the light of the aurora. The coronal crown overhead was incredibly detailed, distinct, and rapidly changing. Tonight I saw some pulses of color and some pillars/ribbons, but in general things felt more diffuse. There were new shapes, but everything felt a bit watered down.

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Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.1"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" | '23-24: 7.0"

2024-25: 0.0"

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2 minutes ago, Skagit Weather said:

I only caught part of this show (standing outside for about 1.5 hours and then heading out every half an hour to check for a few minutes) while in May I spent the whole night outside, but in my opinion May was significantly stronger/more impressive. May caused me to swerve off to the side of the road as I was driving to stare in awe--the pieces I saw of this storm left me wanting significantly more and feeling somewhat disappointed (additional clouds and light pollution where I was tonight didn't help the matter).

I think the biggest difference was the intensity. There were colors in May that were comparable to rainbows I've seen during the daytime, if not stronger. I could read by the light of the aurora. The coronal crown overhead was incredibly detailed, distinct, and rapidly changing. Tonight I saw some pulses of color and some pillars/ribbons, but in general things felt more diffuse. There were new shapes, but everything felt a bit watered down.

Yeah.  Tonight was really disappointing here.  In May it got pretty real for a while.

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Winter 2024-25 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.0

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

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22 minutes ago, iFred said:

Was at Ross Lake from 9:45 to 11pm. Had to leave early for a family obligation, but it looks like I caught the bulk. I’d say it was close to May, maybe **-for-tat on features. The May storm was a bit more vibrant, but didn’t cover the entire sky the way this did. Also this seemed to have dancing ribbons that spanned the northern sky which moved north to south. May had pulsing and in Canada a group of us were pretty convinced we heard buzzing. May also faintly illuminated the interior of my car, this one did not.

Still worth the drive.

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I appreciated the dancing ribbons of light moving and pulsing more with this event tonight.  But May certainly seemed brighter and more vibrant with pinks, reds, purples and greens

 

 

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8 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

I appreciated the dancing ribbons of light moving and pulsing more with this event tonight.  But May certainly seemed brighter and more vibrant with pinks, reds, purples and greens

 

 

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Not a single flake here.

The May event will be incredibly hard to beat down here, and probably would prove destructive on some level. Almost as impressive as the event itself was how incredibly fast word spread about it. Traffic was nutty heading east into the hills between 11 and midnight or so. 

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3 hours ago, Deweydog said:

Not a single flake here.

The May event will be incredibly hard to beat down here, and probably would prove destructive on some level. Almost as impressive as the event itself was how incredibly fast word spread about it. Traffic was nutty heading east into the hills between 11 and midnight or so. 

This was a Fraser River event.  Seems like it ended up being more elevation dependent further south.  ❄️ 

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May was definitely better. No lunar interference then, too. The East was the place to be for this one, but even the trailing edge was nice to experience. First time I’ve seen it twice in the same year.

Really lucked out with the clouds here. There basically weren’t any. 39.6˚F.

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5 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

May was definitely better. No lunar interference then, too. The East was the place to be for this one, but even the trailing edge was nice to experience. First time I’ve seen it twice in the same year.

Really lucked out with the clouds here. There basically weren’t any. 39.6˚F.

Agreed. Definitely a cool thing to experience again, but May was way better. Last night was by no means “epic”. 

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Elevation: 3550'

 

Snow History:

Nov: 1"

Dec: .5"

Jan: 1.9"

Feb: 12.7"

Mar: 1.0"

Total: 17.1"

 

2016/2017: 70"

2015/2016: 34"

Average: ~25"

 

2017/2018 Winter Temps

Lowest Min: 1F on 2/23

Lowest Max: 23F on 12/24, 2/22

Lows <32: 87

Highs <32: 13

 

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A bit chilly this morning at 43F. Was wearing shorts and didn't have time to grab the coat since I was just dropping my son off at school a few blocks away.

Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2024-2025 Snowfall totals:

HIghest snow total (per event): 

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 

First Freeze: 10/18/24

Last Sub freezing Day: 

Coldest low: 28F on 11/6/24

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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7 hours ago, Skagit Weather said:

I only caught part of this show (standing outside for about 1.5 hours and then heading out every half an hour to check for a few minutes) while in May I spent the whole night outside, but in my opinion May was significantly stronger/more impressive. May caused me to swerve off to the side of the road as I was driving to stare in awe--the pieces I saw of this storm left me wanting significantly more and feeling somewhat disappointed (additional clouds and light pollution where I was tonight didn't help the matter).

I think the biggest difference was the intensity. There were colors in May that were comparable to rainbows I've seen during the daytime, if not stronger. I could read by the light of the aurora. The coronal crown overhead was incredibly detailed, distinct, and rapidly changing. Tonight I saw some pulses of color and some pillars/ribbons, but in general things felt more diffuse. There were new shapes, but everything felt a bit watered down.

The 12:30 substorm had overhead aurora. And the 3:00 am substorm was the most pulsing I have ever seen. But I agree, May covered way more of the sky and was significantly more vibrant.

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PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220

2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events)

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Very foggy here this morning.  Dropped to 40 before the fog developed.  Classic October weather.

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Winter 2024-25 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.0

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

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1 hour ago, Slushy Inch said:

First frost coming if these last several gfs runs are right. EPS looks chilly too.

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Best looking EPS yet.

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Total Snowfall = 0.0

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.0

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

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NCDC is still down.  Very rare to see such a major city take so long to get back up and running.

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Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.0

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

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Woke up to some moderately dense fog in Everett and a temp of 47º.

Checking through the data, looks like I missed three different substorms after 12am and one of them bringing better colors that the one I saw. Fingers crossed for more activity as its becoming apparent that a Carrington-esque event might not pack the same punch as the doomers thought.

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21 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

NCDC is still down.  Very rare to see such a major city take so long to get back up and running.

Asheville is back up for the most part, what can be fixed has been.  However the water system still has issues so that may be the problem. A lot of it was heavily damaged or destroyed.  NCDC is right downtown though so I'm guessing the person or persons who administer that site may be pulled into something more important in terms of recovery or dealing with something outside of work recovery related.

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17 minutes ago, iFred said:

Woke up to some moderately dense fog in Everett and a temp of 47º.

Checking through the data, looks like I missed three different substorms after 12am and one of them bringing better colors that the one I saw. Fingers crossed for more activity as its becoming apparent that a Carrington-esque event might not pack the same punch as the doomers thought.

Only 2 really good substorms after you bounced. 12:30-1:15 and 3 to 4. The first one was awesome for color and overhead corona, the second had incredible movement and pulsing. 

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2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events)

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13 minutes ago, Tenochtitlan said:

Hard to believe that 52 years ago tomorrow was the worst ever windstorm for this region. Trees in Portland are still fully leafed out. I can’t imagine the destruction that 100+ wind gusts would cause if they hit here at this time of year. 

It's 62 years ago, not 52. Time flies.

My next door neighbor was a teenager in Portland at the time and shared his account of watching as a whole line of fir trees on his neighbor's property toppled over. One of them struck the house dead-on and destroyed it. Fortunately, the family was gathered around the fireplace, which broke the tree's fall and spared them without a scratch.

"Cool story, bro," I said. No, actually I was thrilled to get a first-hand eyewitness tale about such a significant PNW weather event.

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6 minutes ago, Eugene-5SW said:

It's 62 years ago, not 52. Time flies.

My next door neighbor was a teenager in Portland at the time and shared his account of watching as a whole line of fir trees on his neighbor's property toppled over. One of them struck the house dead-on and destroyed it. Fortunately, the family was gathered around the fireplace, which broke the tree's fall and spared them without a scratch.

"Cool story, bro," I said. No, actually I was thrilled to get a first-hand eyewitness tale about such a significant PNW weather event.

Both sets of my grandparents remember that storm well. It’s fun hearing them talk about it, as well as some other big weather events from the 50s, 60s and 70s.
 My grandpa remembers having a large igloo in his yard in Tacoma during January 1950, and remembers the Columbus Day storm very well…another one he talks about a lot how consistently it snowed in the winter of 1968-1969 right around the time my mom was born. 

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1 minute ago, TacomaWx said:

Both sets of my grandparents remember that storm well. It’s fun hearing them talk about it, as well as some other big weather events from the 50s, 60s and 70s.
 My grandpa remembers having a large igloo in his yard in Tacoma during January 1950, and remembers the Columbus Day storm very well…another one he talks about a lot how consistently it snowed in the winter of 1968-1969 right around the time my mom was born. 

My mom remembers walking in the snow to high school with her best friend in 1968-69.

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2 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

Both sets of my grandparents remember that storm well. It’s fun hearing them talk about it, as well as some other big weather events from the 50s, 60s and 70s.
 My grandpa remembers having a large igloo in his yard in Tacoma during January 1950, and remembers the Columbus Day storm very well…another one he talks about a lot how consistently it snowed in the winter of 1968-1969 right around the time my mom was born. 

My mom remembers 68-69. Her parents ran the Marina in Mill Bay back then and she remembers it being iced in quite severely.  People were skating on the frozen ocean in some of the smaller bays here. 

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I think the models are on to something now. 😍

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Winter 2024-25 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.0

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

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26 minutes ago, Tenochtitlan said:

This was the peak of the aurora I saw last night here, lol.

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Same here.  We must have had a forcefield in this area.  The display in the Central and Eastern parts of the country were much better judging by the pics I saw.

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Total Snowfall = 0.0

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.0

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

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3 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

My mom remembers 68-69. Her parents ran the Marina in Mill Bay back then and she remembers it being iced in quite severely.  People were skating on the frozen ocean in some of the smaller bays here. 

Wow, that’s impressive. I can sort of picture that happening because the Strait of Georgia is quite shallow in places. Wonder when the last time was that those bays froze.

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1 minute ago, ShawniganLake said:

The other winter event my parents talked about was November ‘85. Relentlessly cold and a major +20” snowstorm with temps in the teens. 

For me that was the best month I've witnessed here.  And it was NOVEMBER.  Pretty odd climate where November can be as good as any of the main winter months.

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Winter 2024-25 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.0

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

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This GFS run shows cold Fraser outflow and a hard frost for many places.  SEA was 0.0 departure for the first third of the month so a cold monthly average is on the table.

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Winter 2024-25 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.0

Coldest Low = 35

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

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