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3 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

You are constantly posting stuff that involves a very limited number of analogs. There have been around 10 strong El Ninos since 1950.

I posted something with 20 analogs. I see it as interesting? The whole Mountain West anomaly reverses. I would think you would appreciate such a thing. 

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10 Strong El Nino's occurring in 76 years means 1 every 7.6 years. That means the odds of having 1 within 3 years of another one is about 3x average. You guys are saying a "3" not happening /10 is statistically significant, I disagree. Expand the dataset just a little and 87-88 Strong Nino followed 86-87 Mod Nino.  There are also a lot of Strong Nina's that occurred within 3 years of another Strong Nina. 

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11 minutes ago, StormchaserChuck1 said:

I posted something with 20 analogs. I see it as interesting? The whole Mountain West anomaly reverses. I would think you would appreciate such a thing. 

It's fine. But you and Phil were dismissive of the historical analysis and stats we have on major Nino frequency, simply because of "limited data".

That's the irony. You and him both use limited data in posts all the time.

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Filling the sky and the earth below!
Over the house-tops, over the street,
Over the heads of the people you meet,
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Beautiful snow! it can do nothing wrong.

Posted
1 minute ago, Front Ranger said:

It's fine. But you and Phil were dismissive of the historical analysis and stats we have on major Nino frequency, simply because of "limited data".

That's the irony. You and him both use limited data in posts all the time.

I just don't see the meteorological reason behind why one can't occur so soon behind another one.  I think the 5/6 recent Nina's and Strong Nino 3 years ago actually both increase the odds.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

That's the irony. You and him both use limited data in posts all the time.

You don't think 20 hottest seasons on record giving a below average mean 1 year later is significant? 

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Just now, StormchaserChuck1 said:

You don't think 20 hottest seasons on record giving a below average mean 1 year later is significant? 

Statistically speaking, 20 is not much more meaningful than 10. It is what it is.

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Over the heads of the people you meet,
Dancing, Flirting, Skimming along.
Beautiful snow! it can do nothing wrong.

Posted
11 minutes ago, StormchaserChuck1 said:

^Their blizzard landscapes always look so cool. 

I find them depressing 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Statistically speaking, 20 is not much more meaningful than 10. It is what it is.

One thing occurs 1/7.6 years. The other is 1/2 below or above average. So double the analog vs what I'm pointing out gives it 7.6x more credence. Not to mention that going from hot to cold is less than 50% favored in normal probability. 

Posted
16 minutes ago, StormchaserChuck1 said:

Blowing snow is the best! 

Maybe fun in December.   Depressing as hell in April.  😁

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Just now, StormchaserChuck1 said:

They don't typically get a lot of precip mid Winter

Minnesota gets plenty of snow in December and January.   

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Sad that one of the 3 biggest snows of the season was in April the year, but it was a fun day on the mountain. Hopefully the next couple weeks aren’t incredibly warm and we can avoid a record early closing. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, StormchaserChuck1 said:

These are crazy anomalies in the Rockies for a 6-month period!

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Warmest DJFM in Phoenix (beat it by 4.2 degrees this Winter) look like this the following Winter (+12 months): top 20 analogs:

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History says it usually snaps-back

are any of those 'Snap backs' Super Ninos?

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3 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

are any of those 'Snap backs' Super Ninos?

The March pattern with a +NAO leading to ridge in the SW precedes a lot of El Nino's. 

14-15 was an analog.. led to 2015-2016 Super Nino. Actually that was the #2 year on record after this year. 

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Starting to rain again. 

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Convergence zone setting up it looks like 

2026 Warm Season Stats (4/1 - 10/31)

Warmest high - 5/12 (81 F)

Coldest low - 4/4 (41 F)

Days 80 F or above: 2

Days 90 F or above: 0

 

Posted
8 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Hopefully just thin high clouds like what the new RGEM shows for Saturday and Sunday...

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My phone app says a high of 72 but “mostly cloudy” on Easter. I think it’d be tough to pull of a 70+ day in early April without ample sunshine but I guess it’s happened under SW flow before.

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2 hours ago, MV_snow said:

My phone app says a high of 72 but “mostly cloudy” on Easter. I think it’d be tough to pull of a 70+ day in early April without ample sunshine but I guess it’s happened under SW flow before.

Tough challenge on wording for those apps.   Obviously lots of sun has to make it through the clouds for it to get into the 70s right now.   But technically there will be some high clouds too.   

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9 hours ago, Phil said:

Was 87°F yesterday. Woke up this AM and we were imbedded in the cloud deck up here on the 29th floor and the air smelled like the ocean.

Tomorrow we’re back in the 80s again so I’ll happily take this reprieve. It’s actually soothing.

40s and clouds here today. Good reprieve from the sweltering 50s and sun earlier in the week. But now we're headed into the 60s and maybe cracking 70.... 

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Just now, SeattleMarineLayerFan said:

I'm looking forward to our next snowstorm. Don't know when it will come though...could be a few years.

November 24th 2026. 

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47 minutes ago, SeattleMarineLayerFan said:

40s and clouds here today. Good reprieve from the sweltering 50s and sun earlier in the week. But now we're headed into the 60s and maybe cracking 70.... 

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Posted
9 hours ago, StormchaserChuck1 said:

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FWIW our rainfall climatology has changed a lot since 1979-95. It’s a lot more seasonal now, with summer being significantly wetter than winter/spring. In the 21st century July averages ~7” of rain at DCA. For comparison the 1970s-90s average was ~ 3.5”.

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2 hours ago, Tyler Mode said:

Down to 32.9 this morning.  Would be nice to score a freeze...but lots of high clouds now.

I am surprised to see a couple of weak showers to our west. Thought the higher pressure starting to build today would stop that this morning. 

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.05” so far on the day, 1.40” for the month, 17.98” for the year. 

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Seems like there is more clarity on the upcoming pattern.

Looks like a long stretch of 50s and 60s with partial clouds. No day with full blasts of sun.

Easter weekend and Monday are a touch warm, but nothing to cry about. The clouds will moderate the impact.

Some showers may return here and there later in the month....but appears dry for me.

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11 minutes ago, SeattleMarineLayerFan said:

Seems like there is more clarity on the upcoming pattern.

Looks like a long stretch of 50s and 60s with partial clouds. No day with full blasts of sun.

Easter weekend and Monday are a touch warm, but nothing to cry about. The clouds will moderate the impact.

Some showers may return here and there later in the month....but appears dry for me.

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Sounds like normal April.  

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Sounds like normal April.  

Yes. As long as it's not a persistent hot torch in the 70s and 80s (or higher), or endless sunshine without any clouds... I have no complaint.

That becomes more and more likely by summer though it can happen over the spring too.

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Side note... tomorrow is going to be full blasting, scorching, face melting radiance from the star our planet orbits.   Stay safe.   Soon it will be time to hunker down in a dark, enclosed room for months on end or risk death from laser level brightness that draws most of the populace outdoors.  

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4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Side note... tomorrow is going to be full blasting, scorching, face melting radiance from the star our planet orbits.   Stay safe.   Soon it will be time to hunker down in a dark, enclosed room for months on end or risk death from laser level brightness that draws most of the populace outdoors.  

The "sweltering" mid 60s

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