BLI snowman Posted June 2 Posted June 2 10 minutes ago, Doom Buster said: Ah, you choose to go SUPER regional when it fits your point. As you well know, my points about last summer pertained to the lowlands of the western PNW...you know, Seattle, Portland, etc. That climate region. Here's where the summer ranked for the major westside stations. As you can see, most were not close to 4th warmest. BLI: 12th SEA: 14th OLM: 11th PDX: 7th SLE: 6th EUG: 3rd So 2025 actually was meaningfully cool compared to other recent summers in the region? Interesting hill to die on. And 7th, 6th, and 3rd place finishes are not "close" to 4th? 1 1 Quote
Doom Buster Posted June 2 Posted June 2 13 minutes ago, BLI snowman said: And definitely less true elsewhere in the region. To Dare Duck's point earlier, in no way is SEA singularly representative of the region, and in this spring's case it's pretty obvious that it is not accurate to characterize it as "average" for the region for temperatures under any context. It was another warm to very warm season. For PDX, it was the 5th warmest spring on record (since 1941). It came in +1.4 on the regression line and +2.1 on the 30 year moving average. Fairly similar story for OLM, SLE, EUG, MFR, GEG, YKM, PDT, RDM etc. though the rankings obviously depend somewhat on the length of the period of record. It was 13th warmest for OLM. 1 1 Quote O the snow, the beautiful snow! Filling the sky and the earth below! Over the house-tops, over the street, Over the heads of the people you meet, Dancing, Flirting, Skimming along. Beautiful snow! it can do nothing wrong.
KeyPeninsula_Wx Posted June 2 Posted June 2 86/45 out here so far today. Hottest day of the year so far and first day to top 85. Last year we hit 90 in the first week of May. Quote 2026 warm season stats Max temp-87 +80s-4 +85s-1 +90s-0
KeyPeninsula_Wx Posted June 2 Posted June 2 Models seem to agree on generally 0.25” or so for most people in Puget sound outside of the c-zone…not really too crazy. Who knows about the stuff next week…but my guess is it won’t be too crazy either. 1 1 Quote 2026 warm season stats Max temp-87 +80s-4 +85s-1 +90s-0
Cold Snap Posted June 2 Posted June 2 Almost a 90 burger here with a high of 88. Currently 86. 1 1 Quote 2025 Warm Season Stats Number of 80+ days - 5 Number of 85+ days - 2 (Warmest 88) Number of 90+ days - 0 Number of 95+ days - 0 Number of 60+ lows - 0
Eugene-5SW Posted June 2 Posted June 2 Really no ensemble support for the rainy GFS operational, but at least most of the heatwave consensus is being pushed further out with each run. 1 1 Quote
KeyPeninsula_Wx Posted June 3 Posted June 3 FWIW the 18z euro is a bit wetter and more in the 0.5-0.75” range for Puget sound but it really does seem to have a “wet bias” sometimes. 1 Quote 2026 warm season stats Max temp-87 +80s-4 +85s-1 +90s-0
SeattleSmokeLayerFan Posted June 3 Posted June 3 Only a high of 87 here but nearby stations have hit 90 to my north in the Renton hills. Despite being so hot... It doesn't feel hot. 90s and 100s need to come sooner. Quote
MossMan Posted June 3 Posted June 3 Does tomorrow still look mostly dry? Probably should have mowed today but the lake forced me to stay most of the day. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth!
MossMan Posted June 3 Posted June 3 More views from today…A 747 from Mexico City to Anchorage, and a typical lake mystery that I see on most lakes. Abandoned looking cabin but a newer dock…I so want to know the backstory with some of these places. 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth!
Meatyorologist Posted June 3 Posted June 3 1 hour ago, BLI snowman said: And definitely less true elsewhere in the region. To Dare Duck's point earlier, in no way is SEA singularly representative of the region, and in this spring's case it's pretty obvious that it is not accurate to characterize it as "average" for the region for temperatures under any context. It was another warm to very warm season. For PDX, it was the 5th warmest spring on record (since 1941). It came in +1.4 on the regression line and +2.1 on the 30 year moving average. Fairly similar story for OLM, SLE, EUG, MFR, GEG, YKM, PDT, RDM etc. though the rankings obviously depend somewhat on the length of the period of record. Seattle has a way of being on an island of lower departures, if you will. Maybe Seattle being the first American PNW city to really blow up in population allowed for an earlier onset of UHI influence to compare modern records to. Maybe our position well north of central and southern Oregon has fended off the worst of the northward shifting 4CH influence. Or maybe it's the airport's tendency to draw in a north wind off the sound on hot days with a stronger inland pressure gradient; a weather condition which has seen a surge in prevelance proportional to the summer warming trends we've seen in modern times. Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 56.25" -- Lake City, Seattle (LC) -- -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24: 0.25" -2024-25: 4.75" -- Ballard, Seattle (B) -- -2025-26: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; March 13th, 2026 (B) -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 (LC) -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 (LC) Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 (LC) -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 (LC)
KeyPeninsula_Wx Posted June 3 Posted June 3 Ended up touching 87…looks like onshore flow is starting to trickle in though. Quote 2026 warm season stats Max temp-87 +80s-4 +85s-1 +90s-0
DareDuck Posted June 3 Posted June 3 After 9 1/2 years, my steak of skiing at least one day every month came to end because of my knee injury. I should be walking crutches free in the next 10 days or so. Dont think I’ll be able to hike to an area with snow. I still stepped on snow last month so I still have that streak dating back to Aug 2016. 2 3 Quote Bend, OR 3750’
BLI snowman Posted June 3 Posted June 3 16 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said: Seattle has a way of being on an island of lower departures, if you will. Maybe Seattle being the first American PNW city to really blow up in population allowed for an earlier onset of UHI influence to compare modern records to. Maybe our position well north of central and southern Oregon has fended off the worst of the northward shifting 4CH influence. Or maybe it's the airport's tendency to draw in a north wind off the sound on hot days with a stronger inland pressure gradient; a weather condition which has seen a surge in prevelance proportional to the summer warming trends we've seen in modern times. The presence of the Sound also just keeps things a little more grounded around there. Being a much more maritime climate than areas immediately further south and east has a way of softening any warming signal just a bit, and diluting some of the outsized departures and ranges that more continental locations are capable of. And yeah, SEA in particular has had more erratic changes within their POR due to at times rapid development and subsequent sensor updates they seem to have made there. You can head due east at the same latitude out to the very rural and more continental Cedar Lake station (aka Timland) and find that they pretty consistently run warmer departures in the warm season than the Sound influenced boglands do. For those more transitionally continental spots like the Cascade foothills and the Willamette Valley, having just a smidge less marine influence in the summers now goes a longer way in terms of amplifying the warming signal to an extent. 2 Quote
MossMan Posted June 3 Posted June 3 25 minutes ago, KeyPeninsula_Wx said: Ended up touching 87…looks like onshore flow is starting to trickle in though. Already down to 76 here. 1 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth!
SeattleSmokeLayerFan Posted June 3 Posted June 3 26 minutes ago, DareDuck said: After 9 1/2 years, my steak of skiing at least one day every month came to end because of my knee injury. I should be walking crutches free in the next 10 days or so. Dont think I’ll be able to hike to an area with snow. I still stepped on snow last month so I still have that streak dating back to Aug 2016. How long is TT-SEA's streak of NOT skiing? I wonder 1 Quote
Popular Post Port Angeles Foothiller Posted June 3 Popular Post Posted June 3 Nice sunset last night. 13 Quote PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220 2025-2026 Snow Total: 2.5” (5 snowfalls)
KeyPeninsula_Wx Posted June 3 Posted June 3 20 minutes ago, MossMan said: Already down to 76 here. 82 here feels much nicer out now. 1 Quote 2026 warm season stats Max temp-87 +80s-4 +85s-1 +90s-0
T-Town Posted June 3 Posted June 3 53/85 here. Down to 83 now. No wind here yet so still feeling toasty. Quote
Tyler Mode Posted June 3 Posted June 3 22 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said: Nice sunset last night. I need to get some lupine from you! I love lupine and want some in my yard lol 1 Quote
TigerWoodsLibido Posted June 3 Posted June 3 1 hour ago, MossMan said: More views from today…A 747 from Mexico City to Anchorage, and a typical lake mystery that I see on most lakes. Abandoned looking cabin but a newer dock…I so want to know the backstory with some of these places. One of Tim's secret party boat stops. 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2025-26 Stats: Coldest high: 38F (Jan 14, 2026) Coldest low: 19F (Jan 24, 2026) Days with below freezing temps: 18 (Most recent: Mar 27, 2026) Days with sub-40F highs: 1 (Most recent: Jan 14, 2026) Total snowfall: 0.0" Last ice storm accumulation: Jan 16, 2024 (2.25”) Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Feb 13, 2025 (1.0") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Feb 13, 2025: 1" Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 44.0" Total ice since joining TheWeatherForums: 2.25" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24
TT-SEA Posted June 3 Posted June 3 28 minutes ago, SeattleSmokeLayerFan said: How long is TT-SEA's streak of NOT skiing? I wonder My 2024 knee injury effectively ended my skiing days. 6 Quote *
Doom Buster Posted June 3 Posted June 3 Surprising underperformance today by everyone's fav station, PDX. 1 1 Quote O the snow, the beautiful snow! Filling the sky and the earth below! Over the house-tops, over the street, Over the heads of the people you meet, Dancing, Flirting, Skimming along. Beautiful snow! it can do nothing wrong.
Port Angeles Foothiller Posted June 3 Posted June 3 14 minutes ago, Tyler Mode said: I need to get some lupine from you! I love lupine and want some in my yard lol I have approximately 5 billion seeds, although I’m sure @Doom Buster will fact check me. 1 1 Quote PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220 2025-2026 Snow Total: 2.5” (5 snowfalls)
Tyler Mode Posted June 3 Posted June 3 1 minute ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said: I have approximately 5 billion seeds, although I’m sure @Doom Buster will fact check me. I was hoping you'd have more than that...dang. Lol 1 1 Quote
Port Angeles Foothiller Posted June 3 Posted June 3 1 minute ago, Tyler Mode said: I was hoping you'd have more than that...dang. Lol We gotta wait on an official count from our forum fact checker. 1 1 Quote PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220 2025-2026 Snow Total: 2.5” (5 snowfalls)
SeattleSmokeLayerFan Posted June 3 Posted June 3 6 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said: We gotta wait on an official count from our forum fact checker. Too bad all those doomers UNDERPLAYING the supply of seeds left in the world. We have TRILLIONS of seeds left, but of course the climate change alarmists need to pretend we ONLY have 5 billion left. Then @Anti Marine Layer might need to chip in about how "'they" are trying to justify government-controlled artificial plant-based lupines and cloud seeding facilities. 1 Quote
Phil Posted Wednesday at 03:14 AM Posted Wednesday at 03:14 AM 6 hours ago, the_convergence_zone said: You’re clearly not up to date on the latest literature. Uhh, it is an obvious and demonstrable wavenumber-8 pattern. I can post the NCAR reanalysis of NH heights and streamfunction if you want? And such patterns have known triggers, both for wave stations and amplification. You *can* argue that augmented WPAC/warm pool convection in recent decades may increase the frequency of said patterns (which have always been vulnerable to the modes of resonance that can lead to extreme amplification in some cases). However, the extremely anomalous nature of the June 2021 event cannot be tied to any similarly anomalous atmospheric river or source of latent heat release (such as a TC). In fact the modes of forcing most favorable to produce standard +TNH/+PNA (loading pattern for the 2021 event) were only transiently present beforehand. It was a black swan event, a cascade of perfectly timed ET wave cycles under exactly the correct in-situ z-cell+tropical forcing state and exactly the right evolution of said forcing state, at exactly the right time in the wave cycles, at exactly the right time of year to both maximize the wavetrain response *and* to maximize insolation/surface heating at the more local level. I don’t think people realize how exceptional that event was. More statistically anomalous than any other large scale weather event in US history. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS MD: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS VA: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KVAVIENN164
StormchaserChuck1 Posted Wednesday at 03:17 AM Posted Wednesday at 03:17 AM ^March 2026 in Flagstaff probably beat it. It had never gotten above 73 there in March before, never ever reaching 100 at any time of the year, and they hit 86. Someone did an odds analysis that said 1:10,000 years, although it's probably higher and more likely to happen if the mountains don't have snow on them like this Winter. 1 Quote
Phil Posted Wednesday at 03:24 AM Posted Wednesday at 03:24 AM 6 hours ago, Meatyorologist said: The low amplitude ridge which was pinched off into what is known today as the June 2021 heatwave, was strengthened and preceded by a stout, highly anomalous atmospheric river. KSEA saw nearly 2" of rain in 36 hours with highs in the 50's. It's actually funny that you missed this fact, considering the heatwave was one of the most well documented and well researched weather events in history. That was a standard jet extension and not even close to record breaking in terms of PWATs or U-wind. No one is saying there wasn’t an atmospheric river beforehand. But said atmospheric river does nothing to explain the exceptionally anomalous pattern progression thereafter. The “pinching off” you refer is a textbook element of the process I was referring to earlier (trapping of the wavenumber 8 pattern). Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS MD: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS VA: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KVAVIENN164
SeattleSmokeLayerFan Posted Wednesday at 03:28 AM Posted Wednesday at 03:28 AM 13 minutes ago, Phil said: Uhh, it is an obvious and demonstrable wavenumber-8 pattern. I can post the NCAR reanalysis of NH heights and streamfunction if you want? And such patterns have known triggers, both for wave stations and amplification. You *can* argue that augmented WPAC/warm pool convection in recent decades may increase the frequency of said patterns (which have always been vulnerable to the modes of resonance that can lead to extreme amplification in some cases). However, the extremely anomalous nature of the June 2021 event cannot be tied to any similarly anomalous atmospheric river or source of latent heat release (such as a TC). In fact the modes of forcing most favorable to produce standard +TNH/+PNA (loading pattern for the 2021 event) were only transiently present beforehand. It was a black swan event, a cascade of perfectly timed ET wave cycles under exactly the correct in-situ z-cell+tropical forcing state and exactly the right evolution of said forcing state, at exactly the right time in the wave cycles, at exactly the right time of year to both maximize the wavetrain response *and* to maximize insolation/surface heating at the more local level. I don’t think people realize how exceptional that event was. More statistically anomalous than any other large scale weather event in US history. Could've been hotter in some places if downslope winds continued on into the afternoon. Quote
Phil Posted Wednesday at 03:31 AM Posted Wednesday at 03:31 AM @the_convergence_zone I highly recommend you give this a read. This study precisely predicted the possibility of these extreme summertime wave amplification events nearly a decade before the June 2021 event made it popular. And it is correct. Of course now everyone jumps in and attributes such events to their own pet theories, most of which they’ve *coincidentally* staked their reputations on across years/decades. https://www.pik-potsdam.de/~stefan/Publications/Nature/Petoukhov%2BPNAS_2013.pdf 2 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS MD: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS VA: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KVAVIENN164
Popular Post iFred Posted Wednesday at 03:41 AM Popular Post Posted Wednesday at 03:41 AM Tomorrow morning is my big interview, hopefully it leads to a “let’s hire Fred”. A preemptive thank you for your collective thoughts, prayers, and meditative moments of manifestation. 21 Quote
KeyPeninsula_Wx Posted Wednesday at 03:43 AM Posted Wednesday at 03:43 AM Cooling off nicely down to 74. Quote 2026 warm season stats Max temp-87 +80s-4 +85s-1 +90s-0
Popular Post KeyPeninsula_Wx Posted Wednesday at 03:44 AM Popular Post Posted Wednesday at 03:44 AM 3 minutes ago, iFred said: Tomorrow morning is my big interview, hopefully it leads to a “let’s hire Fred”. A preemptive thank you for your collective thoughts, prayers, and meditative moments of manifestation. Seems like a lot of people on here are interviewing or starting new jobs. Today was my second day at my new job. Hope it goes well it is rough out there in every field. 12 1 Quote 2026 warm season stats Max temp-87 +80s-4 +85s-1 +90s-0
MossMan Posted Wednesday at 03:57 AM Posted Wednesday at 03:57 AM The best part of today (I should have somehow taken a video) at the lake was the old guy (at least 80yrs old) wearing suspenders pulling up to the public dock in his fishing boat…Blasting Metallica’s Master of Puppets album! 5 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth!
Doom Buster Posted Wednesday at 04:00 AM Posted Wednesday at 04:00 AM 16 minutes ago, iFred said: Tomorrow morning is my big interview, hopefully it leads to a “let’s hire Fred”. A preemptive thank you for your collective thoughts, prayers, and meditative moments of manifestation. I just burned some lupine incense to the gods for you. 1 1 Quote O the snow, the beautiful snow! Filling the sky and the earth below! Over the house-tops, over the street, Over the heads of the people you meet, Dancing, Flirting, Skimming along. Beautiful snow! it can do nothing wrong.
Doom Buster Posted Wednesday at 04:01 AM Posted Wednesday at 04:01 AM 17 minutes ago, KeyPeninsula_Wx said: Seems like a lot of people on here are interviewing or starting new jobs. Today was my second day at my new job. Hope it goes well it is rough out there in every field. What happened to the water treatment job? That was one of the more interesting gigs on here. 1 Quote O the snow, the beautiful snow! Filling the sky and the earth below! Over the house-tops, over the street, Over the heads of the people you meet, Dancing, Flirting, Skimming along. Beautiful snow! it can do nothing wrong.
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