Tom Posted October 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Here's the reason why the skies are so dark over IA/MN and nearby...smoke has make an appearance... https://twitter.com/i/status/1319277460756729862 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tom said: Here's the reason why the skies are so dark over IA/MN and nearby...smoke has make an appearance... https://twitter.com/i/status/1319277460756729862 also here--https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=subregional-N_Iowa-truecolor-24-1-50-1&checked=map&colorbar=undefined 3 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 52 minutes ago, Grizzcoat said: They are maintained quarterly by Elec Techs with the NWS- however - NWS even admits that NO tipping bucket is a accurate as the olde' 8". Heavy rains, tipping buckets "spill" some of the water and off by 10-15%. It's really bad in the Winter when snow rations are high as the heated element in the AWPAG evaporates some of the liquid making snow rations look bad at most sites not manned/augmented with a CWO. Thanks. I agree, those heaters are worthless. At least the one I had put in mine was. I retired that heater years ago as the only time it could keep up was when temps were near freezing and there wasn’t much wind and even then it was a lost cause because like you said, there is evaporation going on. I’ve noticed for years that winter precipitation is really underreported or is more than what’s reported, so winter liquid equivalent precipitation I take with a grain of salt! It takes work and diligence recording accurate totals. Anyway, no gauge is totally accurate as far as I know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 12z ICON out with it's coldest and snowiest solution so far. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Clinton said: 12z ICON out with it's coldest and snowiest solution so far. OMAHA DOME!!!! HA! 2 1 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Clinton said: 12z ICON out with it's coldest and snowiest solution so far. Platte river doing its part? The river is pretty much completely dry, now it's gonna make storms dry out in the area!! I'm 20 miles south of the river so that will make me happy.......not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Drained and turned off the underground sprinklers this morning, our school is on Fall Break today and tomorrow, so I knew it had to be done. Supposed to get down to 24 degrees tonight. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, CentralNebWeather said: Drained and turned off the underground sprinklers this morning, our school is on Fall Break today and tomorrow, so I knew it had to be done. Supposed to get down to 24 degrees tonight. I need to do that and winterize my camper!! I plan on doing it on Saturday; I'm hoping we don't get too cold tonight or tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Grizzcoat said: Even gives mby a dab. I wouldn't mind getting in the game for a minute, tho trees still have too many leaves for anything hvy 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 GFS wants to keep the strongest forcing in SW IA late weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Yeah the weekend storm will be frustrating around here if it pans out like the GFS has been showing. The snow hits western and even central Iowa and then really weakens and falls apart. Still shows some accumulating snow here though. Upon further review though, it is at least a little better this run in Eastern Iowa than the past few runs. So maybe we are heading in the right direction. GFS has been pretty consistent with this event so far. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Good news and bad news. Good news: Radar is way better than models said it would be. Hooray! Bad news: This storm is way more progressive than models said it would be, and I'll probably see my last flakes in the mid afternoon. Up to 2". Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, bud2380 said: Yeah the weekend storm will be frustrating around here if it pans out like the GFS has been showing. The snow hits western and even central Iowa and then really weakens and falls apart. Still shows some accumulating snow here though. "toss" My office isn't even mentioning flakes in this morning's AFD. I don't see any temp maps that would support more than a dab or flurry here either, so this map's surprising to say the least. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted October 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 I like the baby steps the GFS UKIE just took today and ejecting out the energy faster out of the SW and phasing with the northern branch. We saw this many times last year when models struggled with the energy in the SW. I think its a lot to do with the -EPO and also the +NAO that we will have present during this period. Hopefully the Ukie and Euro side with the trends today. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 0.7" rain per the airport here last night is a welcomed drink. Mowed most of the lawn yesterday afternoon to take advantage a the brief dry day. Only expecting mid-60's here with this torch event. Looks like the warmest hours happen overnight so I end up with a dark-hours high of 66F then we fall during the day Friday. Per recent events tho, touching 70F wouldn't shock me. 2 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tom said: I like the baby steps the GFS just took today and ejecting out the energy faster out of the SW and phasing with the northern branch. We saw this many times last year when models struggled with the energy in the SW. I think its a lot to do with the -EPO and also the +NAO that we will have present during this period. Hopefully the Ukie and Euro side with the trends today. Gonna make me start watching models now too, lol. Thx for commenting on this. Maybe Nina comes through for us, eh?? Here's what skiers out west are thinking about it.. 3 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormhunter87 Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 GFS ain't backing down. Interesting 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Temp was 43 and now dropped to 41. Original forecast was 73 today. Don't think that's gonna happen. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltrami Island Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, jaster220 said: Gonna make me start watching models now too, lol. Thx for commenting on this. Maybe Nina comes through for us, eh?? Here's what skiers out west are thinking about it.. I am not sure whether they are in favor or against La Nina from this. For snow out west, unless they are in southern California, Arizona, and New Mexico, they should be all in favor of La Nina. No two la ninas are the same, but the best snow years for the west in general are La Nina years. In recent memory 2016-17 is an example (2010-11 as well I think). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Hi-Res GFS seems to be running colder, similar to the ICON. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 I wouldn't expect much more than 10:1 out of this although Kuchera seemed to verify in MN the other day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Consistent moderate snow for the past hour or two. 30°F. 3 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 70 degrees 2 counties south of Iowa City and creeping this way. I hope it gets up here. I'd like to feel the warmth one last time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 35 minutes ago, Clinton said: Hi-Res GFS seems to be running colder, similar to the ICON. this is crazy - has snow down to near Del Rio,TX in late OCT? 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Grizzcoat said: this is crazy - has snow down to near Del Rio,TX in late OCT? Very suspect! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted October 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 I just learned that 14% of the US is covered with snow and that is a record for this time of year. Interesting fact. 6 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 I like the trend going with the Ukie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormhunter87 Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, Grizzcoat said: this is crazy - has snow down to near Del Rio,TX in late OCT? Pretty far south but that panhandle part of texas gets wild swings. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormhunter87 Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Clinton said: I like the trend going with the Ukie. Very interesting trend. UKIE has been chilling with the Euro but dryer. Pretty big shift 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Stormhunter87 said: Pretty far south but that panhandle part of texas gets wild swings. Yep- Dalhart,TX actually is colder in the in the winter than places such as Springfield,MO 2 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Grizzcoat said: Yep- Dalhart,TX actually is colder in the in the winter than places such as Springfield,MO Is it the elevation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Clinton said: Is it the elevation? Elevation and drier air. Diurnal temp swings can be insane there on a clear day. 5 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Up to 3 fluffy inches. Still ripping, radar doesn't seem correct at all. 5 2 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 38 minutes ago, Clinton said: Is it the elevation? Yes sir ..its the elevation. Its at 3,605' and in case you are wondering, their mayor there is Ginger Nelson. Added a little bonus for ya there pal. Btw: elevation does play a major role. Dont forget that! 3 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Attm, temps are inching slowly into the low 50s (51F) and the rain has ended. Skies are very overcast. Maybe some sunshine coming through those angry, Autumn clouds. We will see. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Rates have decreased and I think I'm done with marked accumulation. 3.1" now, may add another tenth or two. Depth is now 7" which is good for October, and good for the upcoming cold spell. 1 2 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwxguy Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 80 currently in falls city ne, 52 in nebraska city. Pretty sharp temperature gradient. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 With my area still north of the warm front it has been slow to warm up here. At this time it is cloudy and 49 with a cool east wind. The total rain fall overnight and today so far is at 0.63" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 Drought continues to worsen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, bud2380 said: 70 degrees 2 counties south of Iowa City and creeping this way. I hope it gets up here. I'd like to feel the warmth one last time. I don't think the front is getting up here. It is still only in the low 50s here and low 60s in Iowa City, and even Sigourney and Oskaloosa continue to have an east wind. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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