SilverFallsAndrew Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 Karl 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminen Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: Aspens most definitely do grow naturally at low elevations! There are wild aspens growing in Chicago and New York City (in the larger parks that have patches of intact forest), plus the locations I mentioned earlier. In the popular imagination, aspens are strictly a Rocky Mountain tree. While they are most abundant in the Rockies, they are found in many more other places. Yes, I am sure. There are even herbarium records from about 100 years ago with collections of aspens from western Whatcom County. hmmmmmm interesting. I will have to do some searching here for them then or maybe in the Fraser valley. If the border wasn't "closed" I'd go to Whatcom and check it out too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said: 4 Karl We really need a throwing up react here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jesse said: A lot of the really out of place plants in residential areas around here are probably pampered by whoever planted them. Throw them in the wild for a few years and they would perish. If so I can’t begin to imagine the size of that water bill. They suck water like there’s no tomorrow..and they looked pretty hefty. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Jesse said: We really need a throwing up react here. I was going to get him some for all Ghouls Day or Druid Solstice. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: 4 Karl Dafuk. No..that doesn’t work at all. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, luminen said: hmmmmmm interesting. I will have to do some searching here for them then or maybe in the Fraser valley. If the border wasn't "closed" I'd go to Whatcom and check it out too. I’m sure they have them. Heck, I’m basically in the Fraser Valley as it is. It’s essentially the same landform. The 49th parallel is a line on a map drawn by humans. It has nothing to do with any natural geographic or ecological boundaries. Our aspens don’t turn as brilliant gold as the ones in the Rockies do, and their bark is often darker, but compared to cottonwoods they have smaller leaves, with longer stalks, that tremble more easily in a slight breeze. They also leaf out several weeks later in the spring. They are the same species, just a different form. Just like humans, plants have inter-species variation. Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Phil said: Dafuk. No..that doesn’t work at all. Works fine. Vancouver, BC has a bunch of those planted as street trees along the shore English Bay. Yes, palms grow outdoors in Canada. 1 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 26 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: Works fine. Vancouver, BC has a bunch of those planted as street trees along the shore English Bay. Yes, palms grow outdoors in Canada. Snow capped peaks and palm trees just don’t mix well for me. It’s so superficial. 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Phil said: Snow capped peaks and palm trees just don’t mix well for me. It’s so superficial. Yeah they are a huge eyesore. I’ve never seen the draw. Especially when our towering native fir trees look so nice on their own. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Glad I could help take our minds off some horrific model runs! 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Phil said: Snow capped peaks and palm trees just don’t mix well for me. It’s so superficial. Avoid L.A. in the winter. 1 1 2 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 43 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: Avoid L.A. in the winter. No problemo! 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 After reflecting on tonight's model runs a little bit I'm not terribly disappointed in the direction they have gone. When looking at the ECMWF in particular it looks very favorable for frosty nights in the in the 6 to 10 period with seasonable daytime temps in all likelihood. Good leaf turning weather, and that is pretty important to me at this stage. I still say our time is going to come with this strong Nina in play. At this point I'm just happy we have put the horrible pattern of September and early October behind us. There is of course the chance the models will be back to a really cold pattern again tomorrow anyway. 1 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Jesse said: Yeah they are a huge eyesore. I’ve never seen the draw. Especially when our towering native fir trees look so nice on their own. We need a really hard core winter to take them out. I remember in 1990 a lot of non native stuff got wiped out. Time for another purge! 2 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted October 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: After reflecting on tonight's model runs a little bit I'm not terribly disappointed in the direction they have gone. When looking at the ECMWF in particular it looks very favorable for frosty nights in the in the 6 to 10 period with seasonable daytime temps in all likelihood. Good leaf turning weather, and that is pretty important to me at this stage. I still say our time is going to come with this strong Nina in play. At this point I'm just happy we have put the horrible pattern of September and early October behind us. There is of course the chance the models will be back to a really cold pattern again tomorrow anyway. Wish we could say the same. Still just warmer than normal here almost every day which feels pretty much the same as the last 2 months. 2 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said: Wish we could say the same. Still just warmer than normal here almost every day which feels pretty much the same as the last 2 months. Yeah....I guess there has been kind of a north to south gradient with this. I thought it got pretty chilly down there last night or at least it did around Portland. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 The EPS looks pretty favorable for chilly nights in the 6 to 10 period also. Actually a bit better placement and better intensity of the offshore ridge than the 12z. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Go Canada! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Looks like somebody hacked the site. I wouldn't click on any of those links that look like Chinese characters. 2 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, DJ Droppin said: Go Canada! There are still some ensemble members on the GFS and EPS that look pretty cold so who knows. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 The best thing to do at this point is pretend there are no other models. The GFS/GEFS, ECMWF/EPS do not exist. Just the GEM/CMCE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: Looks like somebody hacked the site. I wouldn't click on any of those links that look like Chinese characters. Which site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 No doubt the GEM gets colder than a brass monkey's arse in the 6 to 10 day period. 1 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, DJ Droppin said: Which site? Ours. It you look at the entire Western Forums page it's a mess. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: Ours. It you look at the entire Western Forums page it's a mess. Yeahhhhhhh @iFred What the heck is all this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_County Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: It wasn’t that bad this far north, but the further south you were, the more it sucked, and it sucked particularly badly for those south of Seattle. The epic, top-tear, all-time record breaking cold the GFS was forecasting just was not believable. It was inevitable there was going to be some backpedaling from that. I had a full week with lows below 20°, including one in single digits, and a couple days where the high failed to crack 20. High of only 15° on the 14th, with a low that morning of 11° and 9° the following morning. Seemed like the outflow was ripping for a week-and-a-half straight with no let-up. I don't know what qualifies as top-tier cold, but it was plenty chilly on the border. I do seem to recall that there was a dramatic north-south temperature gradient, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 35 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: Yeah....I guess there has been kind of a north to south gradient with this. I thought it got pretty chilly down there last night or at least it did around Portland. I wouldn’t take him too seriously. Eugene’s average temp was the same as Seattle’s today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Low of 37 this morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted October 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 40 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: Looks like somebody hacked the site. I wouldn't click on any of those links that look like Chinese characters. Korean Hopefully Fred is able to get a certification and get the board secure soon. 2 1 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted October 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 52 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: Yeah....I guess there has been kind of a north to south gradient with this. I thought it got pretty chilly down there last night or at least it did around Portland. I think it was colder up north. Currently 46F. 1 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 52 for the low this morning. We’ve had 4 lows in the 40s so far this fall...but we’re yet to have consecutive lows in the 40s still. Soon enough we will be getting consistent cold lows. 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Gfs and the euro show pretty low rain amounts particularly in the south sound the next 10 days. NW flow...so will probably get 0.25” or so during that time period. 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Great discussion about palm trees last night! We have only discussed this 100+ times and Phil acts super surprised every time... and Jim talks about killing all of them every time. 1 2 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Defense Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Windy this morning. 53 and about .02" in the bucket so far.... 1 Quote Britton Rd Bellingham Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWABELLI103?cm_ven=localwx_pwsdash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 I'll be dammed if the 6z EPS control doesn't look like the 0z Canadian at day 6. The mean looks a little bit better at that time also with a more solid looking block over the GOA. There are a also a good number of cold GFS ensemble members. A cold outcome could still happen. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 My relatives in Minnesota just posted a video on FB of snow falling at their place! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, MossMan said: My relatives in Minnesota just posted a video on FB of snow falling at their place! Its just a quick moving band... but I did find some traffic cams in the Twin Cities showing snow falling. 5 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Global SSTA configuration resembles 1988 very closely. A bit more +IOD/+PMM this year, perhaps. But dāmn it’s close. 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Its just a quick moving band... but I did find some traffic cams in the Twin Cities showing snow falling. They are in the Ham Lake area just north of the Twin Cities. 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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