TT-SEA Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jesse said: Yeah in a way it’s not fair to the tree to be forced to live so far outside of its normal climatological conditions. Almost as cruel as transporting a fragile California yuppie into the Cascade foothills and expecting it to thrive. Jesse is back to throwing rocks... surprise, surprise. We love it here! And we can cash out and move anywhere at any time. Not sure I will be able to convince my wife to move though. You seem like a very fragile climate change warrior who is withering in a warming world. Poor Jesse. 1 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said: My brother lives in Coquille. I bet palms would do well there. Seems like an extraordinarily mild climate, and far enough from the coastline that the marine layer is not always dominant. Going down the coast through Oregon into Northern California, palms (at least the big tall ones) don’t seem to become really prevalent until the Eureka/Arcata area. I find that interesting since that area has some of the most consistently cool and gloomy summers in the lower 48. Winters are very mild though so that probably plays a bigger role in survivability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jesse said: Are we being robbed? Not gonna give you my PIN number. Robbed of a promised ice age... 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, Deweydog said: Robbed of a promised ice age... I actually think we would get one if Rob had anything to say about it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jesse said: Yeah in a way it’s not fair to the tree to be forced to live so far outside of its normal climatological conditions. Trees have emotions and feelings now. Won't anyone think of the trees?? 1 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted October 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, Deweydog said: ATM! Your favorite category? The college? 55F and sunny. 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: My brother lives in Coquille. I bet palms would do well there. Seems like an extraordinarily mild climate, and far enough from the coastline that the marine layer is not always dominant. They would probably thrive there. Florence and Newport have a decent amount of healthy palms. Brookings and Gold Beach have some very impressive specimens. I'm okay with them there in the banana belt of Oregon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jesse said: I actually think we would get one if Rob had anything to say about it. A world without severe thunderstorms? 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, dolt said: They would probably thrive there. Florence and Newport have a decent amount of healthy palms. Brookings and Gold Beach have some very impressive specimens. I'm okay with them there in the banana belt of Oregon. I've noticed that too. Even though that's more impressive than anything we can muster I still consider those northerly palms, though. The big tall LA style ones (not sure of their technical name) don't show up until you are well into Humboldt County, CA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Deweydog said: A world without severe thunderstorms? I think the raging katabatic winds off of the Olympia glacier would do it for him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jesse said: I've noticed that too. Even though that's more impressive than anything we can muster I still consider those northerly palms, though. The big tall LA style ones (not sure of their technical name) don't show up until you are well into Humboldt County, CA. Pretty sure the big tall LA palms are either Washingtonia Robusta or Washingtonia Filifera (fan palms). They shouldn’t have any problem growing on the southern OR coast. The one shown in the picture is a Canary Island Date Palm which has similar cold hardiness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jesse said: I think the raging katabatic winds off of the Olympia glacier would do it for him. BSF! 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said: Pretty sure the big tall LA palms are either Washingtonia Robusta or Washingtonia Filifera (fan palms). They shouldn’t have any problem growing on the southern OR coast. The one shown in the picture is a Canary Island Date Palm which has similar cold hardiness. What about in the Stampede Pass region of the San Joaquin valley? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Thrilling discussion about palm trees! Palm trees used to thrive in WA state during warmer periods of our climate history. The Earth is ever-changing. 1 4 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 I’m glad Tim never gets involved in these silly discussions. Things could get a little silly around here if he ever did! 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Looks like PDX hit 45 this morning. Could be their coolest low for the next few days judging by the models. Nighttime conditions looking cloudier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, FroYoBro said: I’m glad Tim never gets involved in these silly discussions. Things could get a little silly around here if he ever did! I was sleeping last night when this discussion started. Not on me! I just found it funny that Phil acts like he has never heard of palm trees in the PNW every time it comes up. 1 1 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, Eujunga said: GFS ensembles showing remarkable consensus for 10 days out. Only a 30ºC spread between coolest and warmest members. At least the cooler solutions are still on life support. Looks like a stretch of decent October weather regardless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deweydog Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterdog Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Thanks to that north/south gradient I had a low of 50 this morning. The 44 recorded on the 14th is still the lowest this month. Precip .02", 3.53" for October, 48.30" for the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Jesse said: Kinda looks like trees. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jesse said: I respect that group of cold lovers on the 25th. Stay strong brothers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, FroYoBro said: I respect that group of cold lovers on the 25th. Stay strong brothers. Looks like the mean is on their side too. Hope falls eternal! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokaneekidz Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 hours ago, TT-SEA said: Thanks for letting us know your very important take on where specific trees should grow! They seem to do just fine around here. There are many palm trees even out here and they did fine through our epic cold and snow last February. Here is a nice pic from Vancouver BC to make you smile... Is that the French Riviera!!! haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, kokaneekidz said: Is that the French Riviera!!! haha The French Riviera of Canada! 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Euro looking good/bad. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 An ice age? Perhaps a minor one, sure.... Fantastic tree discussions everyone. Well 12z runs are in a word, progressive. Very progressive. I think that makes sense given the burgeoning Nina underway. If that's how it's going to be let's just blow this ridge out and return to damp westerlies. C'MON!!!! 18z GFS in 2 hours 39 minutes 00z GFS in 8 hours 39 minutes 00z GEM/CMC in 9 hours 11 minutes 00z ECMWF in 10 hours 56 minutes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Rain has been discontinued this October until further notice. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, DJ Droppin said: An ice age? Perhaps a minor one, sure.... Fantastic tree discussions everyone. Well 12z runs are in a word, progressive. Very progressive. I think that makes sense given the burgeoning Nina underway. If that's how it's going to be let's just blow this ridge out and return to damp westerlies. C'MON!!!! 18z GFS in 2 hours 39 minutes 00z GFS in 8 hours 39 minutes 00z GEM/CMC in 9 hours 11 minutes 00z ECMWF in 10 hours 56 minutes Progressive? 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Phil! The 12Z ECMWF is calling your name... 1 1 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted October 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Up to 59F. Another gorgeous day. Kiddos will have plenty of time outside this weekend!! 1 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 The Daily Laser Sharp Focus looks to shoot positive rather quickly. 3 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, Deweydog said: Progressive? Well not to the extent that the ridge never takes hold with the westerlies breaking through, but the ridge never sets up shop and just lingers near the Coast. In other words, very boring. Perhaps some chilly mornings though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Phil! The 12Z ECMWF is calling your name... Too cold to snow. 1 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, MossMan said: The Daily Laser Sharp Focus looks to shoot positive rather quickly. Well that sure stinks. Maybe if you 'blurried' it up some that could turn the tide for us. 00z NAM in 6 hours 24 minutes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 11 hours ago, snow_wizard said: We need a really hard core winter to take them out. I remember in 1990 a lot of non native stuff got wiped out. Time for another purge! I think it was Feb 1989 you are thinking about. That was colder than Dec 1990. Feb 1989 killed a lot of non-native stuff. I had just moved to Seattle the following spring and the carnage at the Washington Park Arboretum was quite evident. There are no palms in my neighborhood. It gets blasted by Fraser outflow too much for them. 1 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 OLM finally managed their first low in the 30s this morning with 36. 1 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthHillFrosty Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Everybody ready for the major snow storm coming?!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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