Gradient Keeper Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 PGE Power Outages Last Updated Oct 11, 5:20 pm County Outages Customers Clackamas 12 556 Marion 1 32 Multnomah 5 448 Washington 3 338 Yamhill 1 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 Up to .35” on the day. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, MossMan said: Up to .35” on the day. .57" here. Been running the heat all day. Had a nice rainy-day afternoon walk in the woods (on a service road, to avoid mud). 1 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 Went to Leavenworth and the fall colors are definitely behind the past few years. A lot of green still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 At rockaway beach for the next week. It’s decently stormy tonight. Feels like winter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 Up over 1/2” of rain today. Getting some heavy rain coming in sheets this evening. First real stormy night of the season! 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Chewbacca Defense said: I've dropped a few subtle and not so subtle hints to my wife about Maine/New Hampshire area and she's not biting....I would love it there, but I think it's a bit too much cold and snow for her.... I have often thought Vermont or NH would be awesome. I would be happy with North Central WA or Western Montana also. My wife has expressed a willingness for Spokane which I could live with. 1 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 Getting an occasional round of moderate wind here, but nothing too exciting. This area is pretty blocked from south winds. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow drift Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: I have often thought Vermont or NH would be awesome. I would be happy with North Central WA or Western Montana also. My wife has expressed a willingness for Spokane which I could live with. Try Deer Park, Snow_Wizard. It's a mere 15 minutes from Spokane. Generally, it is colder and snowier, too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Omegaraptor said: Do 40 MPH gusts ever cause power outages in the DC area? We haven’t lost power since the derecho in 2012. The trees grow to withstand strong W/NW winds from a young age. Next hurricane that brings strong E/SE winds will be a disaster, though. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Snowdrift said: Try Deer Park, Snow_Wizard. It's a mere 15 minutes from Spokane. Generally, it is colder and snowier, too. I've been through there once and liked it. I have noticed it is quite cold on the hourly obs many times during the winter. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 Southerly gradients continue to increase As of 6 PM PDX-EUG: -5.6mb PDX-MFR: -8.6mb OLM-PDX: -6.2mb OLM-EUG: -11.8mb PGE Power Outages Last Updated Oct 11, 6:30 pm County Outages Customers Clackamas 13 713 Marion 4 167 Multnomah 8 688 Washington 1 8 Yamhill 1 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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snow_wizard Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 55/47 range here today. Actually a touch below normal. Just this one day brought my monthly average down 0.6. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 Well you sure don't see this everyday! This was from yesterday. Edmonds [Pzz135 Co, WA] SHIP reports LIGHTNING at 10 Oct, 7:00 PM PDT -- A WASHINGTON STATE FERRY WAS KNOCKED OUT OF SERVICE SATURDAY EVENING AFTER IT WAS STRUCK BY LIGHTNING OFF THE EDMONDS FERRY TERMINAL. REPORTED BY OFFICIAL WITH WASHINGTON STATE FERRIES. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, DJ Droppin said: Yeah, it’s been coming down pretty good at times, though I’m surprised the record was that low. 1 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 0.22" so far today here. Once again less than those up north. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: I have often thought Vermont or NH would be awesome. I would be happy with North Central WA or Western Montana also. My wife has expressed a willingness for Spokane which I could live with. Having been to both Western WA and coastal Maine, I can safely say they’re actually quite similar topographically, and have similar summer climates. Evergreen trees everywhere, hills/ridges, marine air in the summer with thick AM fog, etc. Obviously, come winter, the climates diverge significantly. Maine is literally hoth for 5 months of the year. A bit too much for my blood. 2 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 SEA is now .62 above normal for the month... and +5.04 for rainfall on the year. 2 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 Isn't 60-61 a possible analog 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Isn't 60-61 a possible analog Before then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Isn't 60-61 a possible analog 1960-61 yes. 2060-61 no. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: Yeah, it’s been coming down pretty good at times, though I’m surprised the record was that low. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 Southerly gradients probably peaking between now and 8 PM. As of 7 PM PDX-EUG: -6.0mb PDX-MFR: -9.0mb OLM-PDX: Not Available OLM-EUG: Not Available PGE Power Outages increasing Last Updated Oct 11, 7:00 pm County Outages Customers Clackamas 14 1113 Marion 3 133 Multnomah 11 930 Washington 1 8 Yamhill 1 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, DJ Droppin said: Southerly gradients probably peaking between now and 8 PM. As of 8 PM PDX-EUG: -6.0mb PDX-MFR: -9.0mb OLM-PDX: Not Available OLM-EUG: Not Available PGE Power Outages increasing Last Updated Oct 11, 7:00 pm County Outages Customers Clackamas 14 1113 Marion 3 133 Multnomah 11 930 Washington 1 8 Yamhill 1 17 Those poor people. Gonna be like living in the 50s again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Timmy_Supercell said: Every time there's a tornado in the PNW, I see a Texan calling them dust devils on a Northwest news page. Is there such thing as an F2-F3 dust devil? We have had some real tornados here. The most infamous was the one in Vancouver in April 1972 which killed 6 people and destroyed a shopping center. The Central Puget Sound has had a few of note also. The one pictured is from Auburn in the 1960s. Supposedly it was F2. 1 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbbyJr Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: As I’ve said before, I expect a typical strong La Niña winter. To wit, cooler and stormier than normal, but not an epic year for lowland snow. More a normal year for lowland snow. Strong La Niña winters tend to have just too much persistent onshore flow to reliably get the sort of arctic, continental outflow we need for epic amounts of lowland snow. Note that even in a normal year, pretty much all lowland locations (aside from the immediate coast) see some snow, so I do not expect a bust year with little or no lowland snow. In the mountains, snow levels will be at persistently lower than normal elevations, so coupled with the plentiful storms skiers should be very happy this winter. I don't think we have enough data to say that strong Nina's promote onshore flows. We've only had a few of them, and most were -QBO. This winter is expected to be +QBO. Again, most of our Nina's are weak so we have very little to compare given the short list of moderate and strong Nina's. It will be interesting to see what happens this winter and while I do expect it to be stormier and wetter than normal, I do expect at least one major arctic outbreak and significant lowland snow event. We'll have to see. There are other factors besides ENSO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 42 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Isn't 60-61 a possible analog Not a Nina. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: We have had some real tornados here. The most infamous was the one in Vancouver in April 1972 which killed 6 people and destroyed a shopping center. The Central Puget Sound has had a few of note also. The one pictured is from Auburn in the 1960s. Supposedly it was F2. That actually does look like a dust devil... is that 5 feet wide? 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: We have had some real tornados here. The most infamous was the one in Vancouver in April 1972 which killed 6 people and destroyed a shopping center. The Central Puget Sound has had a few of note also. The one pictured is from Auburn in the 1960s. Supposedly it was F2. 2018 Port Orchard tornado was an EF2. 1 1 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: 2018 Port Orchard tornado was an EF2. I remember Aumsville in Dec 2010 was an EF2 as well. Still got the Oregonian newspaper from the Vancouver January 2008 tornado (EF1). "Twister rips up Clark County" was the headline. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 11 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said: I remember Aumsville in Dec 2010 was an EF2 as well. Still got the Oregonian newspaper from the Vancouver January 2008 tornado (EF1). "Twister rips up Clark County" was the headline. For whatever reason, Vancouver WA seems to be the PNW's tornado alley. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 Pressure Gradients UPDATE As of 8 PM PDX-EUG: -5.5mb PDX-MFR: -9.3mb OLM-PDX: -6.0mb OLM-EUG: -11.5mb PGE Power Outages Notable increases! Last Updated Oct 11, 8:00 pm County Outages Customers Clackamas 15 1160 Marion 3 88 Multnomah 15 3506* Washington 1 6 Yamhill 1 17 00z GFS in 24 minutes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: 2018 Port Orchard tornado was an EF2. The Central Puget Sound is one of the better places for them in Western WA. There was another one that sounds like it was easily an EF2 in north King County in 1969. They happen every so often 1 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, Omegaraptor said: For whatever reason, Vancouver WA seems to be the PNW's tornado alley. Due to the CCCZ Clark County Convergence Zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said: For whatever reason, Vancouver WA seems to be the PNW's tornado alley. The 1972 one was pretty severe for these parts. Supposedly an EF3. It's interesting to note there are many places in the West where tornados are more rare than they are in parts Western OR and Western WA. 1 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, snow_wizard said: The 1972 one was pretty severe for these parts. Supposedly an EF3. Yeah. That was a supercell T-Storm that also produced Golf Ball hail. 00z ECMWF in 2 hours 38 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, DJ Droppin said: Yeah. That was a supercell T-Storm that also produced Golf Ball hail. 00z ECMWF in 2 hours 38 minutes I think that also came about the same time as the freak April snowfall SEA had that month. 1972 was a very dynamic year. 1 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said: For whatever reason, Vancouver WA seems to be the PNW's tornado alley. Close enough. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 Looks like the wind and rain have died down. 0.53” today to go to 2.11” for October. Was pretty breezy this evening. 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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