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October 2020 Weather Observations for the PNW


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PGE Power Outages

Last Updated Oct 11, 5:20 pm

County        Outages       Customers
Clackamas           12                        556

Marion                   1                         32

Multnomah            5                        448

Washington           3                        338

Yamhill                   1                          17
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1 hour ago, Chewbacca Defense said:

I've dropped a few subtle and not so subtle hints to my wife about Maine/New Hampshire area and she's not biting....I would love it there, but I think it's a bit too much cold and snow for her....

I have often thought Vermont or NH would be awesome.  I would be happy with North Central WA or Western Montana also.  My wife has expressed a willingness for Spokane which I could live with.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Getting an occasional round of moderate wind here, but nothing too exciting.  This area is pretty blocked from south winds.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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4 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I have often thought Vermont or NH would be awesome.  I would be happy with North Central WA or Western Montana also.  My wife has expressed a willingness for Spokane which I could live with.

Try Deer Park, Snow_Wizard. It's a mere 15 minutes from Spokane. Generally, it is colder and snowier, too.

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2 hours ago, Omegaraptor said:

Do 40 MPH gusts ever cause power outages in the DC area?

We haven’t lost power since the derecho in 2012. The trees grow to withstand strong W/NW winds from a young age.

Next hurricane that brings strong E/SE winds will be a disaster, though.

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4 minutes ago, Snowdrift said:

Try Deer Park, Snow_Wizard. It's a mere 15 minutes from Spokane. Generally, it is colder and snowier, too.

I've been through there once and liked it.  I have noticed it is quite cold on the hourly obs many times during the winter.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Southerly gradients continue to increase

As of 6 PM

PDX-EUG: -5.6mb

PDX-MFR: -8.6mb

OLM-PDX: -6.2mb

OLM-EUG: -11.8mb

 

PGE Power Outages

Last Updated Oct 11, 6:30 pm

County        Outages       Customers
Clackamas           13                        713

Marion                   4                         167

Multnomah            8                        688

Washington           1                          8

Yamhill                   1                          17

 

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55/47 range here today.  Actually a touch below normal.  Just this one day brought my monthly average down 0.6.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Well you sure don't see this everyday! This was from yesterday.  ⛈️

 

Edmonds [Pzz135 Co, WA] SHIP reports LIGHTNING at 10 Oct, 7:00 PM PDT -- A WASHINGTON STATE FERRY WAS KNOCKED OUT OF SERVICE SATURDAY EVENING AFTER IT WAS STRUCK BY LIGHTNING OFF THE EDMONDS FERRY TERMINAL. REPORTED BY OFFICIAL WITH WASHINGTON STATE FERRIES.

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22 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I have often thought Vermont or NH would be awesome.  I would be happy with North Central WA or Western Montana also.  My wife has expressed a willingness for Spokane which I could live with.

Having been to both Western WA and coastal Maine, I can safely say they’re actually quite similar topographically, and have similar summer climates. Evergreen trees everywhere, hills/ridges, marine air in the summer with thick AM fog, etc.

Obviously, come winter, the climates diverge significantly. Maine is literally hoth for 5 months of the year. A bit too much for my blood.

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Isn't 60-61 a possible analog

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Southerly gradients probably peaking between now and 8 PM.

 

As of 7 PM

PDX-EUG: -6.0mb

PDX-MFR: -9.0mb

OLM-PDX: Not Available

OLM-EUG: Not Available

 

PGE Power Outages increasing

Last Updated Oct 11, 7:00 pm

County        Outages       Customers
Clackamas           14                        1113

Marion                   3                         133

Multnomah           11                        930

Washington           1                          8

Yamhill                   1                          17
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5 minutes ago, DJ Droppin said:

Southerly gradients probably peaking between now and 8 PM.

 

As of 8 PM

PDX-EUG: -6.0mb

PDX-MFR: -9.0mb

OLM-PDX: Not Available

OLM-EUG: Not Available

 

PGE Power Outages increasing

Last Updated Oct 11, 7:00 pm

County        Outages       Customers
Clackamas           14                        1113

Marion                   3                         133

Multnomah           11                        930

Washington           1                          8

Yamhill                   1                          17

Those poor people. Gonna be like living in the 50s again.

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3 hours ago, Timmy_Supercell said:

Every time there's a tornado in the PNW, I see a Texan calling them dust devils on a Northwest news page.

Is there such thing as an F2-F3 dust devil? 😆

We have had some real tornados here.  The most infamous was the one in Vancouver in April 1972 which killed 6 people and destroyed a shopping center.  The Central Puget Sound has had a few of note also.  The one pictured is from Auburn in the 1960s.  Supposedly it was F2.

 

nado2.jpg

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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8 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

As I’ve said before, I expect a typical strong La Niña winter. To wit, cooler and stormier than normal, but not an epic year for lowland snow. More a normal year for lowland snow. Strong La Niña winters tend to have just too much persistent onshore flow to reliably get the sort of arctic, continental outflow we need for epic amounts of lowland snow.

Note that even in a normal year, pretty much all lowland locations (aside from the immediate coast) see some snow, so I do not expect a bust year with little or no lowland snow. In the mountains, snow levels will be at persistently lower than normal elevations, so coupled with the plentiful storms skiers should be very happy this winter.

I don't think we have enough data to say that strong Nina's promote onshore flows. We've only had a few of them, and most were -QBO. This winter is expected to be +QBO. Again, most of our Nina's are weak so we have very little to compare given the short list of moderate and strong Nina's. It will be interesting to see what happens this winter and while I do expect it to be stormier and wetter than normal, I do expect at least one major arctic outbreak and significant lowland snow event. We'll have to see. There are other factors besides ENSO.

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42 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Isn't 60-61 a possible analog

Not a Nina.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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13 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

We have had some real tornados here.  The most infamous was the one in Vancouver in April 1972 which killed 6 people and destroyed a shopping center.  The Central Puget Sound has had a few of note also.  The one pictured is from Auburn in the 1960s.  Supposedly it was F2.

 

nado2.jpg

That actually does look like a dust devil... is that 5 feet wide?  

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14 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

We have had some real tornados here.  The most infamous was the one in Vancouver in April 1972 which killed 6 people and destroyed a shopping center.  The Central Puget Sound has had a few of note also.  The one pictured is from Auburn in the 1960s.  Supposedly it was F2.

 

nado2.jpg

2018 Port Orchard tornado was an EF2.

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5 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

2018 Port Orchard tornado was an EF2.

I remember Aumsville in Dec 2010 was an EF2 as well.

Still got the Oregonian newspaper from the Vancouver January 2008 tornado (EF1).

"Twister rips up Clark County" was the headline.

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'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 11
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
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7 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said:

I remember Aumsville in Dec 2010 was an EF2 as well.

Still got the Oregonian newspaper from the Vancouver January 2008 tornado (EF1).

"Twister rips up Clark County" was the headline.

For whatever reason, Vancouver WA seems to be the PNW's tornado alley.

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Pressure Gradients

UPDATE

As of 8 PM

PDX-EUG: -5.5mb

PDX-MFR: -9.3mb

OLM-PDX: -6.0mb

OLM-EUG: -11.5mb

 

PGE Power Outages

Notable increases!

Last Updated Oct 11, 8:00 pm

County        Outages       Customers
Clackamas           15                        1160

Marion                   3                         88

Multnomah           15                        3506*

Washington           1                          6

Yamhill                   1                          17
 
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11 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

2018 Port Orchard tornado was an EF2.

The Central Puget Sound is one of the better places for them in Western WA.  There was another one that sounds like it was easily an EF2 in north King County in 1969.  They happen every so often

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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3 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

For whatever reason, Vancouver WA seems to be the PNW's tornado alley.

The 1972 one was pretty severe for these parts.  Supposedly an EF3.  It's interesting to note there are many places in the West where tornados are more rare than they are in parts Western OR and Western WA.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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2 minutes ago, DJ Droppin said:

Yeah. That was a supercell T-Storm that also produced Golf Ball hail.

 

00z ECMWF in 2 hours 38 minutes

I think that also came about the same time as the freak April snowfall SEA had that month.  1972 was a very dynamic year.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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