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Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I am surprised my power hasn't gone out today. The grid is so terrible up here. Our power goes out for at least 12 hours 5-6 times a winter. 

That does sound super annoying, but it is a choice on your part. 

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1 minute ago, FroYoBro said:

Yeah, why do weather enthusiasts enjoy extreme weather?

I guess there is just nothing interesting about it to me. Only destruction can come of it. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 0                         2020-21: 3.38"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

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Just now, FroYoBro said:

That does sound super annoying, but it is a choice on your part. 

That is very true. When I made the decision to buy the house, I may not have realized how much the power would go out, but I did know that i would have to deal with more extreme weather, limited services, and have to commute no matter where I worked. In the end I am happy with my choice. We have had over 300" of snow in those 9 years. To me that makes up for a lot. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 0                         2020-21: 3.38"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

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Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I guess there is just nothing interesting about it to me. Only destruction can come of it. 

There's a lot of this talk that comes from the survivors of hurricanes and tornadoes, when compared to the thousands who actively chase them for sport and often times monetization for their footage. I hope you don't lose your power.

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I skied in 65-70 MPH gusts at Meadows with blowing snow back during that storm on 1/11. I honestly loved it. Certainly more interesting than high pressure.

They did have to close the lifts after a while though.

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6 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

That is very true. When I made the decision to buy the house, I may not have realized how much the power would go out, but I did know that i would have to deal with more extreme weather, limited services, and have to commute no matter where I worked. In the end I am happy with my choice. We have had over 300" of snow in those 9 years. To me that makes up for a lot. 

I like snow too. Sounds like a decent trade off. (Since your home survived the fires that is) 

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7 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

That is very true. When I made the decision to buy the house, I may not have realized how much the power would go out, but I did know that i would have to deal with more extreme weather, limited services, and have to commute no matter where I worked. In the end I am happy with my choice. We have had over 300" of snow in those 9 years. To me that makes up for a lot. 

We get lots of snow... and have an excellent power grid and great cell reception and internet!  

I don't think we would live here without good infrastructure.   

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1 minute ago, Omegaraptor said:

I skied in 65-70 MPH gusts at Meadows with blowing snow back during that storm on 1/11. I honestly loved it. Certainly more interesting than high pressure.

They did have to close the lifts after a while though.

I like types of weather that some don’t like but others DO.

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10 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I guess there is just nothing interesting about it to me. Only destruction can come of it. 

Not necessarily. Have you ever been up to the Vista House on a bright, clear sunny raging east wind day? The trees up there are so acclimated to it that there's no damage to be had, but those extreme gusts are (literally) pretty breathtaking to witness. The thrill is more just about experiencing the raw power of nature up close, I don't think anyone roots for destruction.

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4 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Not necessarily. Have you ever been up to the Vista House on a bright, clear sunny raging east wind day? The trees up there are so acclimated to it that there's no damage to be had, but those extreme gusts are (literally) pretty breathtaking to witness. The thrill is more just about experiencing the raw power of nature up close, I don't think anyone roots for destruction.

Andrew’s just being an Andrew. Not taking anything he says seriously is always the best way to go :wub:

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22 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I have never understood why people root for high winds. I had a very strong wind event on Labor Day. Now me and most of my neighbors are traumatized for life. 

11/24/83. 
I was just a young lad that already knew had a fascination with snow, but that day when this big wind hit and seeing the massive power of Mother Nature taking out a large maple tree in our back yard, the roar, the shaking of the windows and house, the power going out, my dad cooking the Thanksgiving Turkey on the BBQ...And it being my Birthday...That was the day I became obsessed with the weather. Absolutely LOVE the power of the wind, that sounds...Gives me goosebumps!! 

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3 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Some of the weather I like can be deadly and destructive.😟

Does this mean I won’t go to heaven?

Unless the only weather you like is 70 degrees, calm, and sunny you aren’t going to heaven.

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1 minute ago, Omegaraptor said:

Unless the only weather you like is 70 degrees, calm, and sunny you aren’t going to heaven.

Whew!  

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KOLM-KBLI gradient has reached +7mb, which is the forecasted peak. 

KPDX-KBLI has reached a respectable +11mb. 

Getting the occasional solid gust here and a couple power flickers, but otherwise fairly tame. 

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10 minutes ago, MossMan said:

11/24/83. 
I was just a young lad that already knew had a fascination with snow, but that day when this big wind hit and seeing the massive power of Mother Nature taking out a large maple tree in our back yard, the roar, the shaking of the windows and house, the power going out, my dad cooking the Thanksgiving Turkey on the BBQ...And it being my Birthday...That was the day I became obsessed with the weather. Absolutely LOVE the power of the wind, that sounds...Gives me goosebumps!! 

I’m a wind person.  It’s in my blood having grown up at the coast.  
 

That said, I’d just assume Christmas decorations keep to themselves.  

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47 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

We get lots of snow... and have an excellent power grid and great cell reception and internet!  

I don't think we would live here without good infrastructure.   

Part of the decision was also it is what we can afford, you live in a great location with the best of both worlds available. And if we are being real, I could not afford to live where you do. Once you get up around 1600' in Western Oregon you just are more often than not going to be in a very rural area with limited infrastructure. Maybe some spots out around Sandy would be similar and have better infrastructure, but I am not sure, and then affordability could be an issue too. 

I enjoy the rural lifestyle for the most part, and do not really need to feel like I am in the city. It is probably a little harder on my wife. The internet and cell issues are a challenge without great solutions at this point (Though my company is shelling out quite a bit for a cell booster.), the power issue is a little more in our control since we can purchase a generator. But that is not cheap either and it has taken a couple of years from making that decision to be able to save up the money to purchase one that can run the whole house, shop, and well pump, and be professionally installed. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 0                         2020-21: 3.38"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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12Z EPS... 5-10 day mean. 10-15 day mean, and day 15.

 

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50 minutes ago, Jesse said:

Andrew’s just being an Andrew. Not taking anything he says seriously is always the best way to go :wub:

It's going to snow a lot at your house this winter, and we will have a cold wet spring. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 0                         2020-21: 3.38"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z EPS... 5-10 day mean. 10-15 day mean, and day 15.

 

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Day 15 the westerlies are a few days from breaking through and opening the floodgates of November. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 0                         2020-21: 3.38"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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37 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Quite blustery up this way. SW 16G31

    is the latest report from KBLI.

Unfortunately, I am still in a wind shadow at my location, so I am just seeing an occasional rustling of the leaves.  I can see the taller trees in the distance getting blown about quite a lot.  Also seeing a lot of sunbreaks.  It has to be coming from just the right direction to get going here....

 

 

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7 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Day 15 the westerlies are a few days from breaking through and opening the floodgates of November. 

Or maybe we will continue with this blocky theme and it will not be wall-to-wall rain all of November.   Its happened many times before.   

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Breezy and sunny here with gusts in the 30s. The convergence zone over Arlington and Darrington looks pretty mean at the moment. Probably some 1-2" per hour rates falling if not some hail.

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Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018)   Wettest Day: 2.43 (2012)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"

Snowfall Totals

2008-09: 30" | 2009-10: 0.5" | 2010-11: 21" | 2011-12: 9.5" | 2012-13: 0.2" | 2013-14: 6.2" | 2014-15: 0.0" | 2015-16: 0.25"| 2016-17: 8.0" | 2017-18: 0.9"| 2018-19: 11.5"

2019-20: 11"

[1/9: Flakes, 1/12: Trace, 1/13: 0.25", 1/14: 8.5", 1/15: 2.0", 1/16: Flakes, 1/17: 0.25"]

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11 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Or maybe we will continue with this blocky theme and it will not be wall-to-wall rain all of November.   Its happened many times before.   

No, November is set. Time to look ahead to December tbh. 

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14 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Part of the decision was also it is what we can afford, you live in a great location with the best of both worlds available. And if we are being real, I could not afford to live where you do. Once you get up around 1600' in Western Oregon you just are more often than not going to be in a very rural area with limited infrastructure. Maybe some spots out around Sandy would be similar and have better infrastructure, but I am not sure, and then affordability could be an issue too. 

I enjoy the rural lifestyle for the most part, and do not really need to feel like I am in the city. It is probably a little harder on my wife. The internet and cell issues are a challenge without great solutions at this point (Though my company is shelling out quite a bit for a cell booster.), the power issue is a little more in our control since we can purchase a generator. But that is not cheap either and it has taken a couple of years from making that decision to be able to save up the money to purchase one that can run the whole house, shop, and well pump, and be professionally installed. 

I am struggling mightily with this as I am trying to plot my next career move.  I'm really hoping I can land a remote work gig and stay in Whatcom County, but it is looking very likely that I am going to have to find something in the Seattle area (probably east side).  As expensive as Bellingham is, I'm having a really hard time finding anything I can afford that is also in an area that my wife and I would want to live.  I am wanting to do as rural as I can get away with, but your experience last month has given me some pause on those plans...

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1 minute ago, FroYoBro said:

No, November is set. Time to look ahead to December tbh. 

November 2010 begs to differ!  

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40 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Part of the decision was also it is what we can afford, you live in a great location with the best of both worlds available. And if we are being real, I could not afford to live where you do. Once you get up around 1600' in Western Oregon you just are more often than not going to be in a very rural area with limited infrastructure. Maybe some spots out around Sandy would be similar and have better infrastructure, but I am not sure, and then affordability could be an issue too. 

I enjoy the rural lifestyle for the most part, and do not really need to feel like I am in the city. It is probably a little harder on my wife. The internet and cell issues are a challenge without great solutions at this point (Though my company is shelling out quite a bit for a cell booster.), the power issue is a little more in our control since we can purchase a generator. But that is not cheap either and it has taken a couple of years from making that decision to be able to save up the money to purchase one that can run the whole house, shop, and well pump, and be professionally installed. 

The internet and cell issues at our house has taken a toll on my wife that has been working from home since March...Been a big challenge. The previous owners of our house left the generator which was great since the generator I had would not power the this house...Anyway we have found when the power goes out here it’s out at least 24hrs so a generator is a must here. 

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Gradients are starting to relax now, so should see wind gusts slowly come down over the next hour or two for most places along the I-5 corridor.

Overall I would say this "windstorm" under-performed. Looks like we will have to continue to wait a bit longer to get a nice, stronger windstorm.

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4 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said:

Gradients are starting to relax now, so should see wind gusts slowly come down over the next hour or two for most places along the I-5 corridor.

Overall I would say this "windstorm" under-performed. Looks like we will have to continue to wait a bit longer to get a nice, stronger windstorm.

True that, though the people who lost power would not say that

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2 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I have never understood why people root for high winds. I had a very strong wind event on Labor Day. Now me and most of my neighbors are traumatized for life. 

As a bona-fide “wind enthusiast”... that Labor Day storm was one of the most frightening weather events I’ve witnessed. Hellish. I hope something like that never happens again, to say the least.

As much as some folks do like strong winds and heavy rain and whatever else extreme weather brings— there’s always that sadness in realizing that it does have implications for many folks.

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Had some gusts around 40mph at times but definitely not 45-50mph. The thunderstorm this morning was much more exciting. Either way it won’t be the strongest storm of the season should get some stronger ones soon. 

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Cold season stats  

Coldest low-38

Coldest high-51

Freezes-0

Monthly rainfall-2.85”

Cold season rainfall-2.85”

Snowfall-0.0”

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