jaster220 Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, Tom said: Actually, I did some digging and it was Dec '10...here's a snow map from that period...I remember flying over IA in early Dec on a clear sunny day where I clearly saw the ground go from brown grass to white gold. Gosh, time flies by way to fast! Ok, yeah I did see that earlier swath from some clipper that whiffed us south. 10-11 didn't treat SWMI too well aside from some decent NNW LES events and ofc GHD-1. Otherwise we got grazed or missed by numerous systems that winter. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, james1976 said: GFS with a 974 low next Tuesday just east of the GL Post map if you can. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Niko said: Post map if you can. Kinda backs into the east side of the Mitt, missing me completely. Need this to come back west half a state or so. 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, jaster220 said: Kinda backs into the east side of the Mitt, missing me completely. Need this to come back west half a state or so. GFS is starting to phase so thats good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, jaster220 said: Kinda backs into the east side of the Mitt, missing me completely. Need this to come back west half a state or so. Misses my area as well, except for some light snow & wind, but the brunt stays east of my locale also. Still plenty of time for any changes. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 44 minutes ago, Niko said: Clinton- How is your area doing w snow this month? Anything appreciable? Nothing for November but rain has picked up running above average for the month. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 Received over 0.60” of liquid so far with more moderate showers about to move in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Clinton said: Nothing for November but rain has picked up running above average for the month. I should get a nice soaker tomorrow as temps rise into the 50s, thanks to a WF. Looking forward to a rainstorm and tbh, I've always liked rainy days in November. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 Jaster, Niko The Euro just came back west for ya. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 Thats a heck of a storm. CMC is identical to the GFS. Nice to see all the models phasing. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 12z Euro...bada Boom! 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 25 minutes ago, Tom said: 12z Euro...bada Boom! You better be heading back to Chi-town soon! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubuque473 Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 Appears I ended up with around 4” 3 4 Quote Dubuque 2007-2008 Winter 78.1" Total snowfall February Snowfall 32.5" City salt usage : 12,211 tons Days of measurable snow : 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 12z EPS members took a BIG step forward for the GL's/MW/OHV region...need this trend to continue. Many members bomb out this storm in the eastern GL's into a closed upper low and spins for days. These are the type of systems that can deliver the goods, esp the back-end wrap around snows and LES. Warm GL's and cold temps could create an almost perfect scenario for @Jaster and crew in MI. Edit: Another important note, all the models continue to see the growing Greenland Block and -AO/+PNA. Giddy up! 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 PER NOAA: Here we go MI Peeps! After what looks like a quiet weekend, potential winter storm setting up for early next week, as strong storm system comes out of the Gulf of Alaska, with what looks to be eventual phasing with the Four Corners energy. There looks to be unanimous consent, it is just when and where phasing occurs (eastern Plains vs Appalachians) leading to longwave trough encompassing the eastern half/third of North America. Need-less-to-say, 12z EURO is very aggressive with the impact to southeast Michigan. The 00z Euro ensemble members (~50 percent) were also fairly convincing with significant amount of measurable QPF centered around 00z DEC 1. Still, we are talking Days 6-7 and will remain conservative with the standard/climo 30 pop for now. 2 1 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Clinton said: Jaster, Niko The Euro just came back west for ya. I just hope the trends continue bud. Wish you were involved in this storm as well. 3 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Tom said: 12z Euro...bada Boom! This would be a fantastic welcome to the north and a great open to Dec for many! Lock. It. In. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just ended a heavy bust of snow fall here. I have a total of 0.75" of snow on the snow board. I was in the south side of town and there was a lot less snow there then here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 The rain part of this system kinda crapped out for my area. Much of the real rain is passing southeast today and the models keep sagging the Wednesday deformation zone south and weakening it. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 Forecasters monitoring the potential for a blockbuster storm to take shape: or Stay tuned to those who are in the path of this monster storm! 1 1 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 GFS has trended much farther west today. 18z 1 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 29 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: The rain part of this system kinda crapped out for my area. Much of the real rain is passing southeast today and the models keep sagging the Wednesday deformation zone south and weakening it. Same here. We've had mist/drizzle most of the day. It was a bit heavier overnight so we're at .34" for the day, but nowhere near the 1-1.5" of rain that was being shown. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 38 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: GFS has trended much farther west today. 18z Wraps rain into it as did the Euro. Would be a little bit like Nov 1950 super-storm in that regard. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Tom said: 12z EPS members took a BIG step forward for the GL's/MW/OHV region...need this trend to continue. Many members bomb out this storm in the eastern GL's into a closed upper low and spins for days. These are the type of systems that can deliver the goods, esp the back-end wrap around snows and LES. Warm GL's and cold temps could create an almost perfect scenario for @Jaster and crew in MI. Edit: Another important note, all the models continue to see the growing Greenland Block and -AO/+PNA. Giddy up! Dude! Don't pump me up just to get let down, lol. You know these phase bombs are super finicky and thus truly rare for a reason. GFS being late to see the potential reminds me of that autumn merge bomb a year or two ago. Euro & GEM had it days before but GRR rode the GFS which didn't see it til the last minute. The 980 mb SLP near the Sault that created massive waves on Superior. Could not find my maps on it tho I remember posting some. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Tom said: 12z Euro...bada Boom! D*MN! that'd be sweet 3 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 Attm, I am receiving a mix bag of snow and rain. Temp at 34F. Very raw evening. Pavement is wet and temps will remain above freezing overnite, so no icing will be occurring. As a matter of fact, temps will even start rising a bit tanite and reach the upper 30s by dawn. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 Toms pl gets crushed w hvy snows! Also, MI members that live on the western part of the state gets inundated w snow as well. Looks like rain for my area. Nice phase! Tbh..I wouldnt mind seeing that low go through, or even east of the Cleveland Metro area. That would be an ideal track. Would benefit my area for that matter. 3 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Niko said: Toms pl gets crushed w hvy snows! Also, MI members that live on the western part of the state gets inundated w snow as well. Looks like rain for my area. Nice phase! Tbh..I wouldnt mind seeing that low go through, or even east of the Cleveland Metro area. That would be an ideal track. Would benefit my area for that matter. If the SLP gets aligned just right you will be talking some nice LES going on downwind off the lake. Good luck guys! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 Lets mark this one down; she should be a biggy for a lot of us according to the LRC! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan1117 Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 4 hours ago, OmahaSnowFan said: Same here. We've had mist/drizzle most of the day. It was a bit heavier overnight so we're at .34" for the day, but nowhere near the 1-1.5" of rain that was being shown. Yeah this turned out to be another in a long line of duds this year... I was hoping that we would see some appreciable rainfall from this system, however we likely won't even reach a half inch for the storm total. Things were looking up when we got the unexpected burst of snow yesterday morning, but after that everything unraveled once again. Looks like all the rain or possible rain/snow mix is going to miss us well to the south tonight... oh well, no big loss as we usually don't get decent storms around here in November anyway. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 Getting ready to get bumpy out... Line of storms about to roll through. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 I’m around 1” of rain so far. A heavier band stayed just a few miles south of me though. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, OKwx2k4 said: Getting ready to get bumpy out... Line of storms about to roll through. Yes I noticed. I would enjoy that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 I'd say the Nov 29th storm was a pretty safe call. Looks like getting shanked on the margin and blasted after is looking pretty accurate also. Looking forward to the next cycle but congrats to those who are going to get blasted after Thanksgiving. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bryan1117 said: Yeah this turned out to be another dud... I was hoping that we would see more rainfall from this system but we won't even see a half inch total. Looks like all the rain or possible rain/snow mix is going to miss us well to the south tonight... oh well, no big loss as we usually don't get decent storms around here in November anyway. I thought after the cold rain here today that storms would be off the table tonight on my end but I whiffed pretty badly on that. Lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, gabel23 said: Lets mark this one down; she should be a biggy for a lot of us according to the LRC! Was thinking the same yesterday and today...should be a great CO Low! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 11 hours ago, Tom said: Actually, I did some digging and it was Dec '10...here's a snow map from that period...I remember flying over IA in early Dec on a clear sunny day where I clearly saw the ground go from brown grass to white gold. Gosh, time flies by way to fast! December ’10 was pretty good here for snow with 11” total. The largest snowfall of that month was a well timed 6.5” on Christmas Eve day! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 6 hours ago, Hawkeye said: GFS has trended much farther west today. 18z Only need that to go about 600 miles West and I'm in play! 1 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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