TigerWoodsLibido Posted November 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, AlTahoe said: If it works as planned it could be as transformative as the Internet itself was. Cell phone providers would no longer be needed, no more data cables draped across the sea to increase bandwidth Also far easier for the Rockefeller group to keeps tabs on us, which is the primary goal. 2 1 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, AlTahoe said: If it works as planned it could be as transformative as the Internet itself was. Cell phone providers would no longer be needed, no more data cables draped across the sea to increase bandwidth Working from home has been a bit of a nightmare for me. My current satellite internet options just don’t cut it and I have absolutely no cell service here. I tried a booster, but the tech said there is no signal to boost. If I randomly have a good enough connection on telework calls there is a 5 second delay which ends up confusing people. I end up having to go down to the state park a couple miles away, put on a headset and hike the trails while facilitating Zoom meetings and trainings. Unconventional and inconvenient, but gets the job done for now. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Working from home has been a bit of a nightmare for me. My current satellite internet options just don’t cut it and I have absolutely no cell service here. I tried a booster, but the tech said there is no signal to boost. If I randomly have a good enough connection on telework calls there is a 5 second delay which ends up confusing people. I end up having to go down to the state park a couple miles away, put on a headset and hike the trails while facilitating Zoom meetings and trainings. Unconventional and inconvenient, but gets the job done for now. Who says you have to hike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said: Also far easier for the Rockefeller group to keeps tabs on us, which is the primary goal. Yeah I have thought about that too. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Link said: Who says you have to hike? Guess I don’t have to. But why not get some excercise in while I am at it. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Defense Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 9 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Starlink is going to be transformative for me. https://www.satelliteinternet.com/resources/starlink-beta-sign-up/ 2 Quote Britton Rd Bellingham Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWABELLI103?cm_ven=localwx_pwsdash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 31F and frosty this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Severe clear and 31 currently after a low of 28. You can see by this picture why our snow hangs on so long here, unless the rain washes it away. 930am and still no direct sunlight hitting the property. 2 1 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerroldsmithers Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Hello! I've never posted on here, but follow quite a bit when lowland snowstorms grace us w their presence. I live between the PNW and AK and know it's slightly off topic, but do any of you know of good forecast resources (GFS or ECMWF) for southcentral AK (Anchorage, Seward)? I haven't found a good AK forum, so thought you all might be able to help me out. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 The 06z GFS seemed like an improvement. The 12z took a big step back. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 I think this is the first time I've ever seen the CPC use that dark of a shade of blue for part of WA in a winter outlook. This is Jan - Mar, but their Dec outlook and Dec - Feb are almost as cold looking. As I've also mentioned in the past the shape of the cold anomalies they are predicting is better for snow than if it had a more E to W gradient. 3 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Nice and sunny now after a cloudy start. Haven’t had too much sunshine this month. First couple days of November were nice and we had one or two days mid month but other than that sunshine has been minimal. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Foggy and 38 out there. Dense fog formed last evening and has stuck around ever since, so it never got too close to freezing. Ended up with a low of 35. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said: Nice and sunny now after a cloudy start. Haven’t had too much sunshine this month. First couple days of November were nice and we had one or two days mid month but other than that sunshine has been minimal. Yeah...I just wish it could have gotten colder last night. Really rare to see it not drop below 40 during a night with a lot of clearing this time of year. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 I can't believe the CPC shows the NW quarter of WA as the most likely place in the country to be colder than normal this winter! Now it just has to happen. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: The 06z GFS seemed like an improvement. The 12z took a big step back. The 6z had pretty cold weather here at the end of the run. Probably just rushing it a bit. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 No frost here. Had a low of 39. Currently 45 and mostly sunny. 3.96” for the month. 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: I can't believe the CPC shows the NW quarter of WA as the most likely place in the country to be colder than normal this winter! Now it just has to happen. Of course it’s just a probability forecast, so -1F for the winter could be the outcome, even if it verified 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 We should set up our expectations for December this way... Would be difficult for it to be worse than the past two. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said: Of course it’s just a probability forecast, so -1F for the winter could be the outcome, even if it verified The probability also corresponds to intensity. They have a long winded explanation on the site. No reason to downplay the forecast. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: We should set up our expectations for December this way... Would be difficult for it to be worse than the past two. I'm thinking a mixed bag and then the big stuff in either Jan or early Feb. I really hope it's Jan this time. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: We should set up our expectations for December this way... Would be difficult for it to be worse than the past two. Aside from 2016, December has been kind of lame recently for a lot of areas. I saw someone post a composite of the last 5 moderate to strong ninas for North America in December and it was basically a torch for most of the continent. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TacomaWaWx Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 23 minutes ago, MossMan said: No frost here. Had a low of 39. Currently 45 and mostly sunny. 3.96” for the month. Wow this might be a rare occurrence where I end up with more rain than you this month. 6.10” here so far. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said: Wow this might be a rare occurrence where I end up with more rain than you this month. 6.10” here so far. Randy's area has often been squarely in the rain shadow this month. This is the offset to patterns that favor c-zones up there. What we have seen this month is lots of SW flow as opposed to NW flow. That is also why Oregon has been fairly wet. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Only got down to 31 before some dense fog rolled in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 12Z ECMWF shows a pretty nice holiday weekend. Drying out Thursday... rain staying north on Friday and then a front racing through Friday night and dry again for Saturday and Sunday. If everything is shut down... its nice to have some decent weather for getting outside. Actually that always nice... even when everything is open. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Yeah December 2010 and 2011 were pretty lame. December 2017 was below average regionally. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Yeah December 2010 and 2011 were pretty lame. December 2017 was below average regionally. I thought I remembered 2011 being pretty chilly too. Kind of like 2017. Maybe more inversion based without a Christmas snow event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said: Wow this might be a rare occurrence where I end up with more rain than you this month. 6.10” here so far. Yeah I think that my area has been back in the rain shadow lately...And I’m okay with that!! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 PDX holding at 39 after a low of 38. Could be a chilly day if things don't start to burn off in the next few hours. They are down to exactly average for the month after yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 The ECMWF seems to have gravitated back to a scenario more favorable for an inversion in the 5 to 10 day period once again. We are left more high and dry on a number of days. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jesse said: I thought I remembered 2011 being pretty chilly too. Kind of like 2017. Maybe more inversion based without a Christmas snow event. I will look it up, but December 2011 was definitely not a torch. Definitely the least active month of that winter though. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jesse said: PDX holding at 39 after a low of 38. Could be a chilly day if things don't start to burn off in the next few hours. They are down to exactly average for the month after yesterday. It has really been frustrating up here. In spite of below normal 850s and even some clearing last night we haven't been able to do anything with it. Just bad luck. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, snow_wizard said: It has really been frustrating up here. In spite of below normal 850s and even some clearing last night we haven't been able to do anything with it. Just bad luck. I thought we were a lock for getting a frost or freeze when it was crystal clear and already in the upper 30s last evening around 7pm. Then a thick fog formed about an hour later and we have been in it ever since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 The EPS control is bullish on a big ridge pumping up in the 10 to 15 day period. I think our best path going forward is for a ridge like that to happen with an axis placement in the 120W to 135W range, and then go from there. We need to get the progressive pattern shut down whatever it takes. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: The EPS control is bullish on a big ridge pumping up in the 10 to 15 day period. I think our best path going forward is for a ridge like that to happen with an axis placement in the 120W to 135W range, and then go from there. We need to get the progressive pattern shut down whatever it takes. I think you just need to move somewhere colder and drier. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jesse said: I thought we were a lock for getting a frost or freeze when it was crystal clear and already in the upper 30s last evening around 7pm. Then a thick fog formed about an hour later and we have been in it ever since. Up here we have just been too close to the jet stream. For these inversion scenarios to work we need to be fully high and dry. I know how frustrating it can be to have fog put a damper on getting a freeze. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Jesse said: I think you just need to move somewhere colder and drier. I was just stating what would probably be our best bet to get into something really good by mid December or so. But you do have a point! 4 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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