November 2020 Weather Observations for the PNW

[SilverFallsAndrew]

18 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

It has really been frustrating up here.  In spite of below normal 850s and even some clearing last night we haven't been able to do anything with it.  Just bad luck.

Yeah when trying to get into a good cold inversion pattern those first 1-2 days/nights are critical. 

[Jesse]

1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

I was just stating what would probably be our best bet to get into something really good by mid December or so.  But you do have a point!

I think you would love a climate like Trout Lake, Washington or Parkdale, Oregon. Similar enough to our west side climate that it's not totally unrecognizable (lots of trees still) but way more of a seasonal swing, and tons of snow and cold clear nights in the winter.

[snow_wizard]

11 minutes ago, Jesse said:

I think you would love a climate like Trout Lake, Washington or Parkdale, Oregon. Similar enough to our west side climate that it's not totally unrecognizable (lots of trees still) but way more of a seasonal swing, and tons of snow and cold clear nights in the winter.

Yeah....anywhere like Cle Elum.  I think Liberty has one of the most awesome microclimates that I know of.  They get heavy frost in August fairly often.  I wish they had an official station there, because I think they are capable of some real eye popping cold mins due to their propensity for heavy snow cover, cold air drainage off of the surrounding mountains, and being at the bottom of a valley.

One nice thing about Cle Elum in particular is their summers are far cooler than almost anywhere east of the Cascades due to cool air pouring over Snoqualmie Pass during onshore flow.

[Anti Marine Layer]

Looks quite foggy up there today. Stagnant air pattern.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Looks like December 2011 was solidly below average in the Willamette Valley. SLE had a monthly mean of 38.7. Good catch Jesse. 

[umadbro]

37. Thick fog. Low was 31

[snow_wizard]

34 minutes ago, ttt said:

That's in combination with cold.

[High Desert Mat?]

2 hours ago, snow_wizard said:

I can't believe the CPC shows the NW quarter of WA as the most likely place in the country to be colder than normal this winter!  Now it just has to happen.

Good lord. 

[High Desert Mat?]

3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

That's in combination with cold.

It’s called La Niña for a reason. 

[Jesse]

7 minutes ago, High Desert Mat? said:

It’s called La Niña for a reason. 

Because we all act like little girls?

[mtep]

Beautiful day here. Really missing my left collarbone today, I need my forest road fix. 

[Jesse]

43 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Yeah....anywhere like Cle Elum.  I think Liberty has one of the most awesome microclimates that I know of.  They get heavy frost in August fairly often.  I wish they had an official station there, because I think they are capable of some real eye popping cold mins due to their propensity for heavy snow cover, cold air drainage off of the surrounding mountains, and being at the bottom of a valley.

One nice thing about Cle Elum in particular is their summers are far cooler than almost anywhere east of the Cascades due to cool air pouring over Snoqualmie Pass during onshore flow.

I like the Roslyn/Cle Elum area quite a bit too. I would definitely say the two spots I mentioned are our area's answer to the Cle Elum valley. Much more moderate summers compared to a lot of the east side thanks to westerly influence through the Columbia Gorge and the nearby Cascades.

The comfortable summer/cold and snowy winter combo is a big selling point for me. Not to mention all the areas mentioned have beautiful local scenery, and still get relatively ample precip compared to points further inland.

[Jesse]

PDX still holding at 39 with half mile visibility at noon.

Up to 43 here with a much higher cloud deck.

[TacomaWaWx]

1 hour ago, MossMan said:

Yeah I think that my area has been back in the rain shadow lately...And I’m okay with that!! 

I know we’ve been getting quite a bit of SW flow lately but even so usually your area is quite a bit ahead in rainfall. I know your still ahead YTD I’m at 36.48”. 

[TacomaWaWx]

50 and sunny here no fake cold. 

[Jesse]

1 minute ago, TacomaWaWx said:

50 and sunny here no fake cold. 

I just walked outside and the temperature felt pretty real.

Updates to come!

[ShawniganLake]

58 minutes ago, ttt said:

Looks like long range forecasts are picking up on the La Niña.  Cool and damp to the north and northwest with a storm track into the Great Lakes. 

[Omegaraptor]

22 minutes ago, Jesse said:

Because we all act like little girls?

I'm not gonna lie, this made me laugh a bit. 

38 at HIO and 39 at PDX. I see some blue breaking through however, highest level inversion clouds are burning off from the looks of it.

[TT-SEA]

53 and totally sunny here.   

[Phil]

16 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

Looks like long range forecasts are picking up on the La Niña.  Cool and damp to the north and northwest with a storm track into the Great Lakes. 

Yup. We’re gonna get warm sectored all winter.

Heat and wind. The bread and butter of La Niña winters in this sorry little climate.

[FroYoBro]

10 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

53 and totally sunny here.   

PROVE IT!

[MossMan]

Up to 50! 

[Jesse]

PDX still in the 30s at 1pm. Temperature is back down to 42 here with the fog closing in a little. Starting to think we don't see much in the way of a burnoff today.

[Weather1011]

48F and sunny. Nice to finally have one dry day even tho it's back to rain tomorrow.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Still at 38F. We are close to pulling off our first sub-40 high since Nov 30, 2019.

[Blizzard777]

Already 50* out

Had to take off light jacket as I was sweating on local hike. 
 

low this morning of 42* and Fred Myers fully stocked on TP  
 

[TT-SEA]

Nice day... 

[Jesse]

It’s crazy how much of the west side is socked in with a deep, chilly inversion today.

[snow_wizard]

1 hour ago, High Desert Mat? said:

It’s called La Niña for a reason. 

You don't have to be so nasty.  Sheesh.  Pardon me for being pleased at the potential. BTW calling it La Nina has nothing to do with how it effects our weather.

[snow_wizard]

1 minute ago, Jesse said:

It’s crazy how much of the west side is socked in with a deep, chilly inversion today.

You guys are lucky.  This whole thing has been a flop up here.  At least it's a nice day today.

[snow_wizard]

13 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Still at 38F. We are close to pulling off our first sub-40 high since Nov 30, 2019.

I think I had a dozen last season.

[ShawniganLake]

3 hours ago, snow_wizard said:

The probability also corresponds to intensity.  They have a long winded explanation on the site.  No reason to downplay the forecast.

I don’t think I’m downplaying it. That map is showing a 50-60% chance of a cooler than normal winter. 

[snow_wizard]

5 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

I don’t think I’m downplaying it. That map is showing a 50-60% chance of a cooler than normal winter. 

That is pretty solid.  I was just commenting that's about the best I've ever seen them show for us. The map isn't only probability.  The higher the percent chance the more impressive the anomaly is likely to be.  It also needs to be noted 50% to 60% chance below normal means only a 20% to 25% chance of above normal.  The remaining 20 to 25 is taken up by near normal.

[TT-SEA]

Those seasonal maps are usually comically wrong as has been pointed out many times in the past.   No idea why it matters regardless of what it shows.

[Phil]

3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

That is pretty solid.  I was just commenting that's about the best I've ever seen them show for us. The map isn't only probability.  The higher the percent chance the more impressive the anomaly is likely to be.  It also needs to be noted 50% to 60% chance below normal means only a 20% to 25% chance of above normal.  The remaining 20 to 25 is taken up by near normal.

C’mon Jim, join me at the torch party.

It’s all republican red. Not a blue pixel in sight.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

EC Ensemble

[Weather1011]

18 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

You don't have to be so nasty.  Sheesh.  Pardon me for being pleased at the potential. BTW calling it La Nina has nothing to do with how it effects our weather.

It's just weather man, We can't control it. Best to enjoy it but not let it affect your mood etc.

[Weather1011]

4 minutes ago, Phil said:

C’mon Jim, join me at the torch party.

It’s all republican red. Not a blue pixel in sight.

BBQ?

[Blizzard777]

Nice day up at Crystal !

Looks like snowboarders are having fun

40” base and 32* 

[snow_wizard]

4 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

EC Ensemble

The thing we want to watch for now is for the progressive nature of the pattern to end.  At least it starts to lock at the end.