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November 2020 Weather Observations for the PNW


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Totally clear and 45 here now.  Should be looking at a freeze tonight.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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2 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Assuming this persistence-loving phase in the models is just that, a phase, I’d got with a return to westerlies.  Question is whether the blocking can work in a little something backdoor before it ages out and dies.

Or..... it’s the mid 1980’s all over again...

I would gladly take a mid 1980s redux.  Some fun times in there!

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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3 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Assuming this persistence-loving phase in the models is just that, a phase, I’d got with a return to westerlies.  Question is whether the blocking can work in a little something backdoor before it ages out and dies.

Or..... it’s the mid 1980’s all over again...

Yeah, westerlies undercutting a healthy, momentarily well positioned block wouldn't be the worst thing. Sneaux is fun. Then maybe a reset around New Years.

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10 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Assuming this persistence-loving phase in the models is just that, a phase, I’d got with a return to westerlies.  Question is whether the blocking can work in a little something backdoor before it ages out and dies.

Or..... it’s the mid 1980’s all over again...

I think this is pretty reasonable.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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4 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

I like dry winters, although I don’t ski nearly as much as I used to.  If I did I’m sure I’d feel otherwise.

The main thing I remember about that period is how cold it was.  It was certainly dry also.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Didn’t live here in the mid-80s. What happened?

Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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6 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Didn’t live here in the mid-80s. What happened?

Lots of blocking.  Real and fake cold for really long stretches.

Ironically, I remember wearing shorts on Xmas day in 1985 out at the coast.

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The ensemble mean temp on the final day of the run went from 38F to 43F so a small step back.

Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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51/31 for a 41F avg and a -1F departure.

Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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4 hours ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Have you thought about putting that in an excel sheet? Would be way easier to find certain data points 

I go to the other extreme, excel sheet after excel sheet haha.  Lots of data!  I know there are a lot of other people out there with way more though.  I've had records at my parents house since 1995 and my house since 2010 now.  These are just a few of the sheets/graphs I have.

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42 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Lots of blocking.  Real and fake cold for really long stretches.

Ironically, I remember wearing shorts on Xmas day in 1985 out at the coast.

In January 2014 and 2015 I can remember a few days like that in K-Falls. Some days got real close to 60.

(Avg high is 40 in January lol)

Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 11
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 

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[Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021]
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1 hour ago, Jesse said:

A cold and wet spring is probably just as important to me as a cold and snowy winter. So I guess it depends on perspective.

Constantly cold and wet can cause cabin fever as do stay-at-home orders. Rainy nights with dry and sunny periods in between are good as they keep things green and allow you to enjoy it during the days.

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20 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Constantly cold and wet can cause cabin fever as do stay-at-home orders. Rainy nights with dry and sunny periods in between are good as they keep things green and allow you to enjoy it during the days.

Cold and/or wet spring is great for skiers because the average 850 temps are still cold in March/April and you can still get good snow.

Also a cold spring is not necessarily a persistently cloudy one. Especially true in the west valley NW flow rainshadow. 2008 is a pretty good example.

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1 hour ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Didn’t live here in the mid-80s. What happened?

Found this on one of Mark's blog post. 

Winter 1984-85

Big October snow in Cascades and good ski season start.  Then NO snow with a massive ridge overhead all of January.  I remember that one.  Fog or east wind all month (depending on where you lived).  Then tons of February snow in mountains and even some lowland snow that month.  It was a relatively active winter, but with a weird “stoppage” in January.  8″ total in PDX.

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6 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

Very good chance HIO has its third sub-30” year in a row. I don’t think that’s ever happened.

Tumbleweed and sage steppe will soon be the predominant vegetation type. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1 hour ago, Deweydog said:

Dry is typically cool/cold this time of year.

There were a lot of Arctic outbreaks though.

Dec 1983 - epic blast

Oct 1984 - snow in the Seattle area on Halloween

Dec 1984 - minor Arctic outbreak and snow around mid month and then another shot late month

Feb 1985 - solid Arctic outbreak on the 1st with snow

Nov 1985 - one for the ages

Feb 1986 - nice little late season outbreak with snow

The whole cold regime began with an abnormal cold shot in late September 1983 which brought heavy frost to many places.

Then of course 1985 stands as the only year since the 1950s where SEA averaged below 50 degrees.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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11 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

Very good chance HIO has its third sub-30” year in a row. I don’t think that’s ever happened.

What town is that?

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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52 minutes ago, Tyler Mode said:

I go to the other extreme, excel sheet after excel sheet haha.  Lots of data!  I know there are a lot of other people out there with way more though.  I've had records at my parents house since 1995 and my house since 2010 now.  These are just a few of the sheets/graphs I have.

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8 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

There were a lot of Arctic outbreaks though.

Dec 1983 - epic blast

Oct 1984 - snow in the Seattle area on Halloween

Dec 1984 - minor Arctic outbreak and snow around mid month and then another shot late month

Feb 1985 - solid Arctic outbreak on the 1st with snow

Nov 1985 - one for the ages

Feb 1986 - nice little late season outbreak with snow

The whole cold regime began with an abnormal cold shot in late September 1983 which brought heavy frost to many places.

Then of course 1985 stands as the only year since the 1950s where SEA averaged below 50 degrees.

1985 was the coldest year on record at Salem, and their records date back to 1892. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1 hour ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

The ensemble mean temp on the final day of the run went from 38F to 43F so a small step back.

On the other hand there were a lot more cold members around Dec 10 than previous runs.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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8 minutes ago, FroYoBro said:

You serious? One of the hottest night life spots in America right now, Hillsboro! 

Oh....I didn't see the inch marks.  I thought you were talking about some town in OR having a shot at 3 consecutive winters with a low of -30 or below.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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6 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

1985 was the coldest year on record at Salem, and their records date back to 1892. 

That is downright incredible.  There were a number of years that were colder in the Seattle area.  I clearly remember how cold that year was though.  Really quite something.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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33 minutes ago, Frontal Snowsquall said:

Found this on one of Mark's blog post. 

Winter 1984-85

Big October snow in Cascades and good ski season start.  Then NO snow with a massive ridge overhead all of January.  I remember that one.  Fog or east wind all month (depending on where you lived).  Then tons of February snow in mountains and even some lowland snow that month.  It was a relatively active winter, but with a weird “stoppage” in January.  8″ total in PDX.

I had 19.7" that winter where I was living (Bothell WA) with two good stretches with snow on the ground.  Also a white Halloween complete with icy roads.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Speaking of 1985...the November / December combo was insane.  Easily the coldest ever recorded for that two month period.  Landsburg, after overperforming in November, went on to have 19 max temps of 35 or below in December with 2 or more inches of snow on the ground for the entire month.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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17 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

That is downright incredible.  There were a number of years that were colder in the Seattle area.  I clearly remember how cold that year was though.  Really quite something.

Here are the monthly anomalies at SLE that year. 

Jan: -5.6

Feb: -3.2

Mar: -3.5

Apr: +0.9

May: -1.0

June: -0.4

Jul: +3.0

Aug: -1.7

Sep: -3.6

Oct: -2.3

Nov: -8.1

Dec: -7.5

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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10 minutes ago, TheNewCulverJosh said:

Surely a PSCZ or 2 came into play?

I think the Halloween snow may have been.  The stuff during the winter was mainly from Arctic fronts or snow that fell while cold air was in place.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Here are the monthly anomalies at SLE that year. 

Jan: -5.6

Feb: -3.2

Mar: -3.5

Apr: +0.9

May: -1.0

June: -0.4

Jul: +3.0

Aug: -1.7

Sep: -3.6

Oct: -2.3

Nov: -8.1

Dec: -7.5

Definitely impressive.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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