November 2020 Weather Observations for the PNW

[Gradient Keeper]

Day 3

[snow_wizard]

17 minutes ago, Phil said:

1984/85 was the last winter to drop below -10°F here. Wasn’t around yet, but people still remember it because Reagan’s inauguration was moved indoors.

 

I clearly remember January was an ice box east of the Rockies and then it retrograded to the West.  Another interesting thing I remember is a headline in the Seattle Times in the fall of 1984.  Is a Cold Winter Coming? National Weather Service Computer Guesses Yes.  They actually nailed that one with stone age computers compared to now!

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I clearly remember January was an ice box east of the Rockies and then it retrograded to the West.  Another interesting thing I remember is a headline in the Seattle times in the fall of 1984.  Is a Cold Winter Coming? National Weather Service Computer Guesses Yes.  They actually nailed that one with stone age computers compared to now!

That is a flip of a coin.   50% chance of being right.

[Gradient Keeper]

Timing to me appears to be moving ahead nicely with the block development and Westerly jet retracting back towards ~180 W/Dateline to ~170 W. On 00z runs tonight I wouldn't expect any new changes until after Day 9 though. I can't wait to see the models by Wednesday 12z(Maybe Tuesday 00z?) runs. C'MON!!!!

00z ECMWF in 1 hour 48 minutes

[snow_wizard]

Currently 38 with light fog.  48 / 38 for the day so far.

[snow_wizard]

Just now, TT-SEA said:

That is a flip of a coin.   50% chance of being right.

Well...maybe 33.3% if you go cold / normal / warm.  Usually +1 to -1 is considered normal.

[Gradient Keeper]

Day 4

[Front Ranger]

1 hour ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

This is the first year since I've been watching models that I haven't looked beyond day 7 and it's been much more relaxing not looking at the garbage past 168hrs! At first it was hard to do but I'm good with it now. 

It's pretty great, isn't it?

Although I do look to day 10.

[Gradient Keeper]

Day 5

[Front Ranger]

28 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

For me,#1 February 2019 and #2 December 2008. #3 would be December 2013 Only 2” of snow in with that one but it was our longest stretch of sub freezing high temps with 5 in a row, didn’t even get that in 2008 or 2019. #4 would be November 2010...my coldest low in the records at 14 degrees. #5 would be April 2008. We had 3” of snow here which is impressive for April. 

What did you see with February 2011? That was about anomalous as it gets for that late in the season.

[Gradient Keeper]

Day 6 That tiny cut-off over northern CA is interesting.

[ShawniganLake]

12 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

For me,#1 February 2019 and #2 December 2008. #3 would be December 2013 Only 2” of snow in with that one but it was our longest stretch of sub freezing high temps with 5 in a row, didn’t even get that in 2008 or 2019. #4 would be November 2010...my coldest low in the records at 14 degrees. #5 would be April 2008. We had 3” of snow here which is impressive for April. 

For MBY.

December 2008  54” total snow with 7 sub freezing highs

November 2006  33.5” of snow with a 23/19 day  

February 2019 34” of snow  39 consecutive freezes thru mid March 

January 2020 27.5” of snow including a 24/20 day with 15” of snow  

January 2005.  30” total snow. 6 sub freezing highs

 

honourable mention to December 2018 windstorm and December 2006 windstorm. October 2003 rainstorm. Early December 2007 heavy snow to heavy rain event. 

[Cloud]

34 minutes ago, Jesse said:

Weird statement considering winter is two days away from even starting.

Would prefer him to call it wet season or rain season or whatever. To call it “past wettest part of the winter” when it hasn’t even started both meteorologically and calendar is just odd???

Then again, I don’t follow Mass anymore these days. He’s too much for me. 

[rsktkr]

I won't get excited about this "sea change" event advertised for mid-December but I sure do enjoy watching things unfold here in this forum. You guys make it all very interesting and I appreciate that.

[Gradient Keeper]

Day 7

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, Cloud said:

Would prefer him to call it wet season or rain season or whatever. To call it “past wettest part of the winter” when it hasn’t even started both meteorologically and calendar is just odd???

Then again, I don’t follow Mass anymore these days. He’s too much for me. 

We are past the wettest part of the year statistically... that is all. 

 

 

[bainbridgekid]

1 minute ago, ShawniganLake said:

For MBY.

December 2008  54” total snow with 7 sub freezing highs

November 2006  33.5” of snow with a 23/19 day  

February 2019 34” of snow  39 consecutive freezes thru mid March 

January 2020 27.5” of snow including a 24/20 day with 15” of snow  

January 2005.  30” total snow. 6 sub freezing highs

 

honourable mention to December 2018 windstorm and December 2006 windstorm. October 2003 rainstorm. Early December 2007 heavy snow to heavy rain event. 

How much did you get in 2016-17?

I know Vancouver and the Fraser Valley got buried that Winter.

[Cloud]

1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

We are past the wettest part of the year statistically... that is all. 

 

 

Then call it that, which is why I said call it wet season, rain season or wettest part of the year in your case. He called wettest part of the winter, when it hasn’t even started yet.  Which is what makes it an odd statement. 
 

And yes, I am being technical about it because I know a lot people rely on Mass for accurate information. The data he provided was accurate but his statement was not. 
 

that is all

[Gradient Keeper]

Day 8

[The Swamp]

that high pressure over us just keeps re-inventing itself

trof in gulf alaska is pretty impressive too

[MossMan]

14 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

What did you see with February 2011? That was about anomalous as it gets for that late in the season.

That event was amazing!! Several sun freezing highs, about 18” of snow, loved that one!! 

[ShawniganLake]

6 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said:

How much did you get in 2016-17?

I know Vancouver and the Fraser Valley got buried that Winter.

58” for the winter. February 2017 could have made the top 5 list.  Kind of a coin toss with that and 3rd thru 5th place. 

[Gradient Keeper]

Day 9'er

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Late Nov/early December is statistically the wettest time of year. But as you can see it doesn't really start dropping off much until almost April. 

[Gradient Keeper]

Day 10 (For fun) Here we go

[Gradient Keeper]

00z GFS 10 Day Rainfall totals(Quite bleak, but not surprising with the blocking regime that begins Tuesday), Snowfall totals (Mehhhh) 

[Deweydog]

5 minutes ago, DJ Droppin said:

Day 10 (For fun) Here we go

Ridge is going all Calista Flockhart...

[TacomaWaWx]

29 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

What did you see with February 2011? That was about anomalous as it gets for that late in the season.

February 2011 and January 2007 like Jim mentioned could easily be on my top 5 as well. In February 2011 we had 7” of snow while Seattle had nothing. 33/28 on 2/24...30/25 on 2/25 and 32/22 on 2/26! Was pretty epic we lucked out. 

[TacomaWaWx]

34 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

For MBY.

December 2008  54” total snow with 7 sub freezing highs

November 2006  33.5” of snow with a 23/19 day  

February 2019 34” of snow  39 consecutive freezes thru mid March 

January 2020 27.5” of snow including a 24/20 day with 15” of snow  

January 2005.  30” total snow. 6 sub freezing highs

 

honourable mention to December 2018 windstorm and December 2006 windstorm. October 2003 rainstorm. Early December 2007 heavy snow to heavy rain event. 

We had 22.0” in February 2019 and 4 sub freezing highs. 16.0” in December 2008 and 5 sub freezing days. Then November 2006 we had 3” of snow and a 29/21 day on 11/28...exactly 14 years ago today. January 2005 and 2020 didn’t end up that great down here. 
 February/March 2019 was amazing...had an additional 1.5” of snow in early March. Went up to orcas island on 3/5 and they had 3’ of snow on the top of the mountain still. 2018-2019 was personally my favorite winter I can remember. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Looks like the GFS is going the way of the EPS. 

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Patience

[Jesse]

13 minutes ago, Cloud said:

Would prefer him to call it wet season or rain season or whatever. To call it “past wettest part of the winter” when it hasn’t even started both meteorologically and calendar is just odd???

Then again, I don’t follow Mass anymore these days. He’s too much for me. 

Yeah, I basically have to hold my nose if I’m gonna read his stuff.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Looks like a nice snow event in Oklahoma. That will be nice. 

[Jesse]

Just now, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Patience

https://youtu.be/ErvgV4P6Fzc

[TigerWoodsLibido]

11 minutes ago, Jesse said:

Yeah, I basically have to hold my nose if I’m gonna read his stuff.

I feel like he used to be more tolerable back in like 2010.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

2 hours ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

This is the first year since I've been watching models that I haven't looked beyond day 7 and it's been much more relaxing not looking at the garbage past 168hrs! At first it was hard to do but I'm good with it now. 

Sometimes I look, but I keep in mind my tagline at all times. Makes for a whole lot fewer letdowns.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

18 minutes ago, Jesse said:

Yeah, I basically have to hold my nose if I’m gonna read his stuff.

He’s been kicked off two radio stations (and counting) but of course it’s always everyone else inexplicably ganging up on him…

[Jesse]

7 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

He’s been kicked off two radio stations (and counting) but of course it’s always everyone else inexplicably ganging up on him…

Really needs to hire Matt as his PR guy...

[Jesse]

15 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

I feel like he used to be more tolerable back in like 2010.

The political stuff was more toned down back then. But he has always hated this climate. Or at least its less Californicated aspects.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

34 minutes ago, Jesse said:

https://youtu.be/ErvgV4P6Fzc

Or, if you prefer old school: