SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: It has really been frustrating up here. In spite of below normal 850s and even some clearing last night we haven't been able to do anything with it. Just bad luck. Yeah when trying to get into a good cold inversion pattern those first 1-2 days/nights are critical. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, snow_wizard said: I was just stating what would probably be our best bet to get into something really good by mid December or so. But you do have a point! I think you would love a climate like Trout Lake, Washington or Parkdale, Oregon. Similar enough to our west side climate that it's not totally unrecognizable (lots of trees still) but way more of a seasonal swing, and tons of snow and cold clear nights in the winter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jesse said: I think you would love a climate like Trout Lake, Washington or Parkdale, Oregon. Similar enough to our west side climate that it's not totally unrecognizable (lots of trees still) but way more of a seasonal swing, and tons of snow and cold clear nights in the winter. Yeah....anywhere like Cle Elum. I think Liberty has one of the most awesome microclimates that I know of. They get heavy frost in August fairly often. I wish they had an official station there, because I think they are capable of some real eye popping cold mins due to their propensity for heavy snow cover, cold air drainage off of the surrounding mountains, and being at the bottom of a valley. One nice thing about Cle Elum in particular is their summers are far cooler than almost anywhere east of the Cascades due to cool air pouring over Snoqualmie Pass during onshore flow. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Looks quite foggy up there today. Stagnant air pattern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Looks like December 2011 was solidly below average in the Willamette Valley. SLE had a monthly mean of 38.7. Good catch Jesse. 1 2 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umadbro Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 37. Thick fog. Low was 31 1 1 Quote https://ambientweather.net/dashboard/efcb24c8a999dceddfaba7469ce5bd2f my personal weather station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 34 minutes ago, ttt said: That's in combination with cold. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Desert Mat? Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 hours ago, snow_wizard said: I can't believe the CPC shows the NW quarter of WA as the most likely place in the country to be colder than normal this winter! Now it just has to happen. Good lord. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Desert Mat? Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: That's in combination with cold. It’s called La Niña for a reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, High Desert Mat? said: It’s called La Niña for a reason. Because we all act like little girls? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtep Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Beautiful day here. Really missing my left collarbone today, I need my forest road fix. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 43 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: Yeah....anywhere like Cle Elum. I think Liberty has one of the most awesome microclimates that I know of. They get heavy frost in August fairly often. I wish they had an official station there, because I think they are capable of some real eye popping cold mins due to their propensity for heavy snow cover, cold air drainage off of the surrounding mountains, and being at the bottom of a valley. One nice thing about Cle Elum in particular is their summers are far cooler than almost anywhere east of the Cascades due to cool air pouring over Snoqualmie Pass during onshore flow. I like the Roslyn/Cle Elum area quite a bit too. I would definitely say the two spots I mentioned are our area's answer to the Cle Elum valley. Much more moderate summers compared to a lot of the east side thanks to westerly influence through the Columbia Gorge and the nearby Cascades. The comfortable summer/cold and snowy winter combo is a big selling point for me. Not to mention all the areas mentioned have beautiful local scenery, and still get relatively ample precip compared to points further inland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 PDX still holding at 39 with half mile visibility at noon. Up to 43 here with a much higher cloud deck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, MossMan said: Yeah I think that my area has been back in the rain shadow lately...And I’m okay with that!! I know we’ve been getting quite a bit of SW flow lately but even so usually your area is quite a bit ahead in rainfall. I know your still ahead YTD I’m at 36.48”. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 50 and sunny here no fake cold. 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, TacomaWaWx said: 50 and sunny here no fake cold. I just walked outside and the temperature felt pretty real. Updates to come! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 58 minutes ago, ttt said: Looks like long range forecasts are picking up on the La Niña. Cool and damp to the north and northwest with a storm track into the Great Lakes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, Jesse said: Because we all act like little girls? I'm not gonna lie, this made me laugh a bit. 38 at HIO and 39 at PDX. I see some blue breaking through however, highest level inversion clouds are burning off from the looks of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 53 and totally sunny here. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said: Looks like long range forecasts are picking up on the La Niña. Cool and damp to the north and northwest with a storm track into the Great Lakes. Yup. We’re gonna get warm sectored all winter. Heat and wind. The bread and butter of La Niña winters in this sorry little climate. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: 53 and totally sunny here. PROVE IT! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Up to 50! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 PDX still in the 30s at 1pm. Temperature is back down to 42 here with the fog closing in a little. Starting to think we don't see much in the way of a burnoff today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather1011 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 48F and sunny. Nice to finally have one dry day even tho it's back to rain tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted November 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Still at 38F. We are close to pulling off our first sub-40 high since Nov 30, 2019. 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard777 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Already 50* out Had to take off light jacket as I was sweating on local hike. low this morning of 42* and Fred Myers fully stocked on TP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Nice day... 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 It’s crazy how much of the west side is socked in with a deep, chilly inversion today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, High Desert Mat? said: It’s called La Niña for a reason. You don't have to be so nasty. Sheesh. Pardon me for being pleased at the potential. BTW calling it La Nina has nothing to do with how it effects our weather. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Jesse said: It’s crazy how much of the west side is socked in with a deep, chilly inversion today. You guys are lucky. This whole thing has been a flop up here. At least it's a nice day today. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said: Still at 38F. We are close to pulling off our first sub-40 high since Nov 30, 2019. I think I had a dozen last season. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 hours ago, snow_wizard said: The probability also corresponds to intensity. They have a long winded explanation on the site. No reason to downplay the forecast. I don’t think I’m downplaying it. That map is showing a 50-60% chance of a cooler than normal winter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said: I don’t think I’m downplaying it. That map is showing a 50-60% chance of a cooler than normal winter. That is pretty solid. I was just commenting that's about the best I've ever seen them show for us. The map isn't only probability. The higher the percent chance the more impressive the anomaly is likely to be. It also needs to be noted 50% to 60% chance below normal means only a 20% to 25% chance of above normal. The remaining 20 to 25 is taken up by near normal. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Those seasonal maps are usually comically wrong as has been pointed out many times in the past. No idea why it matters regardless of what it shows. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: That is pretty solid. I was just commenting that's about the best I've ever seen them show for us. The map isn't only probability. The higher the percent chance the more impressive the anomaly is likely to be. It also needs to be noted 50% to 60% chance below normal means only a 20% to 25% chance of above normal. The remaining 20 to 25 is taken up by near normal. C’mon Jim, join me at the torch party. It’s all republican red. Not a blue pixel in sight. 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted November 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 EC Ensemble 3 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather1011 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: You don't have to be so nasty. Sheesh. Pardon me for being pleased at the potential. BTW calling it La Nina has nothing to do with how it effects our weather. It's just weather man, We can't control it. Best to enjoy it but not let it affect your mood etc. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather1011 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Phil said: C’mon Jim, join me at the torch party. It’s all republican red. Not a blue pixel in sight. BBQ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard777 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Nice day up at Crystal ! Looks like snowboarders are having fun 40” base and 32* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said: EC Ensemble The thing we want to watch for now is for the progressive nature of the pattern to end. At least it starts to lock at the end. 3 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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