TT-SEA 3754 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said: Well we made it down to freezing again. #7 for the young season. Only 2 below freezing nights in the valley here... October 25th and 26th. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
snow_wizard 11746 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 If you like cold there is nothing wrong with the 12z. In some ways better than any recent run. The block reset is much cleaner and ends up colder. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2020-21 stats Total Snowfall = 7.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5 Total Hail = 0.0" Coldest Low = 23 Lows 32 or below = 37 Highs 32 or below = 2 Lows 20 or below = 0 Highs 40 or below = 5 Link to post Share on other sites
snow_wizard 11746 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said: Low of 43 this morning in Tacoma...41 up here on orcas island. Heading back home tonight. Amazing how different our low temps can be sometimes. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2020-21 stats Total Snowfall = 7.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5 Total Hail = 0.0" Coldest Low = 23 Lows 32 or below = 37 Highs 32 or below = 2 Lows 20 or below = 0 Highs 40 or below = 5 Link to post Share on other sites
snow_wizard 11746 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 A big goal for me is always to have a 100 freeze season. The coming pattern makes it look that will be on the table at least in the early going. Places that have already had 5 or more are really off to a good start. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2020-21 stats Total Snowfall = 7.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5 Total Hail = 0.0" Coldest Low = 23 Lows 32 or below = 37 Highs 32 or below = 2 Lows 20 or below = 0 Highs 40 or below = 5 Link to post Share on other sites
El_Nina 1184 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 44 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: A big goal for me is always to have a 100 freeze season. The coming pattern makes it look that will be on the table at least in the early going. Places that have already had 5 or more are really off to a good start. Have had 5 freezes here so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3754 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 60 here now. Big temperature gradients out here... elevated places are really warm. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
SilverFallsAndrew 14925 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 Well we never expected much from November anyways right? 1 2 Quote Snowfall Precip 2020-21: 10.5" 2020-21: 52.02" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Link to post Share on other sites
TacomaWaWx 4404 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 48 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: Amazing how different our low temps can be sometimes. My location probably has the warmest overnight lows of anybody here. Right next the sound we tend to have nights 3-5 degrees warmer on cold mornings. Waters warm nearby and lots of times we have a hard time getting the wind to die down compared to other locations. Quote Cold season stats Coldest low-25 Coldest high-32 Freezes-15 Monthly rainfall-0.53” Cold season rainfall-32.62” Snowfall-15.5” Link to post Share on other sites
MossMan 10606 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 Up to 41. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snow_wizard 11746 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 The 12z ensemble is onto the idea of the double dip cold snap. Not sure how that wasn't a good GFS run. Solidly cold. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2020-21 stats Total Snowfall = 7.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5 Total Hail = 0.0" Coldest Low = 23 Lows 32 or below = 37 Highs 32 or below = 2 Lows 20 or below = 0 Highs 40 or below = 5 Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3754 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: The 12z ensemble is onto the idea of the double dip cold snap. Not sure how that wasn't a good GFS run. Solidly cold. Well Andrew likely wants lots of storms and zonal flow... so maybe his interests are not always exactly in line with yours. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
MossMan 10606 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: The 12z ensemble is onto the idea of the double dip cold snap. Not sure how that wasn't a good GFS run. Solidly cold. Andrew says “NOPE” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El_Nina 1184 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 25 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: 60 here now. Big temperature gradients out here... elevated places are really warm. Same down here. It's 56 here which is 6 degrees warmer than PDX right now. Sandy is all the way up at 60 at 1000ft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iFred 5194 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Well we never expected much from November anyways right? “We” 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El_Nina 1184 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, iFred said: “We” Woo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FroYoBro 2649 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 Already getting close to 60 here in Tigard. Warming at a rapid pace this morning. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TigerWoodsLibido 5630 Posted November 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 Clouds have burned off. Just 45F though. 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats: Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21) Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26) Days with below freezing temps: 36 (Most recent: Feb 24, 2021) Days with sub-40F highs: 3 (Most recent: Dec 24) Total snowfall: 0.0" Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7" GoFundMe: www.gofundme.com/CollegeBasketballvsEpilepsy My Twitter @357jerseys4hope 24 Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3754 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 12Z ECMWF shows 3 days with rain up here (Tues - Thurs) and then its basically dry for the next 4 days (Fri - Mon)... good timing. Too bad we did not have this cycle last May and June when it rained for 7 weekends in a row. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
Rubus Leucodermis 1321 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, TT-SEA said: 12Z ECMWF shows 3 days with rain up here (Tues - Thurs) and then its basically dry for the next 4 days (Fri - Mon)... good timing. Too bad we did not have this cycle last May and June when it rained for 7 weekends in a row. That is a serious and disturbing sign that all is not well with the world… rainy weekends are a time-tested Seattle area tradition. 1 1 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to post Share on other sites
SilverFallsAndrew 14925 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 53 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Well Andrew likely wants lots of storms and zonal flow... so maybe his interests are not always exactly in line with yours. I would be fine with an actual cold snap too. This is just meandering crap. We have had enough Nino weather the past few years. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2020-21: 10.5" 2020-21: 52.02" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Link to post Share on other sites
snow_wizard 11746 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 The 12z ECMWF delivers a very solid cold shot next weekend. We end up on the back side of a cold ULL with surface gradients becoming northerly. 3 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2020-21 stats Total Snowfall = 7.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5 Total Hail = 0.0" Coldest Low = 23 Lows 32 or below = 37 Highs 32 or below = 2 Lows 20 or below = 0 Highs 40 or below = 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Rubus Leucodermis 1321 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said: Clouds have burned off. Just 45F though. 50 here. Starting to warm up quickly. May crack 60 tomorrow afternoon. 1 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to post Share on other sites
snow_wizard 11746 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: I would be fine with an actual cold snap too. This is just meandering crap. We have had enough Nino weather the past few years. Nino weather? The runs are cold. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2020-21 stats Total Snowfall = 7.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5 Total Hail = 0.0" Coldest Low = 23 Lows 32 or below = 37 Highs 32 or below = 2 Lows 20 or below = 0 Highs 40 or below = 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Deweydog 14109 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 Cold. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to post Share on other sites
Omegaraptor 2386 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 58 at HIO. For some reason the 5 minute updates are gone. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snow_wizard 11746 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 I have to say I've never seen so much complaining about a strong GOA block during the cold season on here before. Weird. For the record a typical Nino pattern would have a trough over the NE Pacific / GOA. 3 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2020-21 stats Total Snowfall = 7.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5 Total Hail = 0.0" Coldest Low = 23 Lows 32 or below = 37 Highs 32 or below = 2 Lows 20 or below = 0 Highs 40 or below = 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Omegaraptor 2386 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: I would be fine with an actual cold snap too. This is just meandering crap. We have had enough Nino weather the past few years. Cold front NW flow is a Niño pattern? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverFallsAndrew 14925 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, snow_wizard said: I have to say I've never seen so much complaining about a strong GOA block during the cold season on here before. Weird. For the record a typical Nino pattern would have a trough over the NE Pacific / GOA. Wasting it now for one thing. Secondly these troughs are pretty weak and splitty and aren't attached to any kind of cold air source. Quote Snowfall Precip 2020-21: 10.5" 2020-21: 52.02" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3754 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 64 here now. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
van city 383 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: 64 here now. Hot! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
High Desert Mat? 469 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 33 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: I have to say I've never seen so much complaining about a strong GOA block during the cold season on here before. Weird. For the record a typical Nino pattern would have a trough over the NE Pacific / GOA. Actually nino’s have a lot of split flow with inversions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ Droppin 9299 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 My thoughts reviewing 12z runs. It's interesting how quickly the block reorganizes. It wouldn't take much to see things turn much colder and not just chilly onshore/northerly flow, but backdoor cold. Mainly amplification. Ya gotta believe! C'MON!!!! 18z GFS in 1 hour 47 minutes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MossMan 10606 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 48 minutes ago, Deweydog said: Cold. El Niño. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Omegaraptor 2386 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MossMan 10606 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 Up to 54. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3754 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just picked these from the garden... more still coming. 2 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
SilverFallsAndrew 14925 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 Up to 55. Nice mild start to November. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2020-21: 10.5" 2020-21: 52.02" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Link to post Share on other sites
FroYoBro 2649 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Just picked these from the garden... more still coming. No need to your share your sex life with us. 2 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FroYoBro 2649 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 63 here. 59 at pdx. Heat wave! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Omegaraptor 2386 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, FroYoBro said: 63 here. 59 at pdx. Heat wave! 62 HIO. This is one of those days it would be nice to have a PWS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deweydog 14109 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, MossMan said: El Niño. Bombgenesis. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to post Share on other sites
Deweydog 14109 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 Last Sunday it was so cold and this Sunday it’s so warm! (WUFACD?) 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to post Share on other sites
snow_wizard 11746 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 Looks pretty good to me! 2 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2020-21 stats Total Snowfall = 7.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5 Total Hail = 0.0" Coldest Low = 23 Lows 32 or below = 37 Highs 32 or below = 2 Lows 20 or below = 0 Highs 40 or below = 5 Link to post Share on other sites
SilverFallsAndrew 14925 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 October ended up only +0.6 at SLE. Quote Snowfall Precip 2020-21: 10.5" 2020-21: 52.02" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Link to post Share on other sites
snow_wizard 11746 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 It's really strange here when the easterly pressure gradient is more ESE we get into some pretty serious inversions and when it's ENE it gets very windy with major down slope warming. Today it's ESE so it's been pretty chilly here compared to many areas. Looking at a 54 / 32 day so far. Probably looking at another freeze tonight with this gradient angle. Pulling for the 100 freezes this season! 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2020-21 stats Total Snowfall = 7.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5 Total Hail = 0.0" Coldest Low = 23 Lows 32 or below = 37 Highs 32 or below = 2 Lows 20 or below = 0 Highs 40 or below = 5 Link to post Share on other sites
snow_wizard 11746 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: October ended up only +0.6 at SLE. Yup...we really pulled that one out of the literal fire. I was around +1.0 here. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2020-21 stats Total Snowfall = 7.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5 Total Hail = 0.0" Coldest Low = 23 Lows 32 or below = 37 Highs 32 or below = 2 Lows 20 or below = 0 Highs 40 or below = 5 Link to post Share on other sites
SilverFallsAndrew 14925 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 I wonder how many freezes SLE had in 1985, I bet it was close to 100. Quote Snowfall Precip 2020-21: 10.5" 2020-21: 52.02" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Link to post Share on other sites
snow_wizard 11746 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: I wonder how many freezes SLE had in 1985, I bet it was close to 100. That was a huge year. 1984-85 was the big season for that. 1992-93 was another big one. Looking way back...form what I can tell 1955 / 1956 were the really big years for freezing low temps. Some places were around 110 for the year 1955. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2020-21 stats Total Snowfall = 7.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5 Total Hail = 0.0" Coldest Low = 23 Lows 32 or below = 37 Highs 32 or below = 2 Lows 20 or below = 0 Highs 40 or below = 5 Link to post Share on other sites
SilverFallsAndrew 14925 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: I wonder how many freezes SLE had in 1985, I bet it was close to 100. 117 Quote Snowfall Precip 2020-21: 10.5" 2020-21: 52.02" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Link to post Share on other sites
SilverFallsAndrew 14925 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: That was a huge year. 1984-85 was the big season for that. 1992-93 was another big one. Looking way back...form what I can tell 1955 / 1956 were the really big years for freezing low temps. Some places were around 110 for the year 1955. 1985 is the coldest calendar year on record at SLE, and their records date back to 1892. Pretty amazing when you consider they had some pretty warm weather that summer too. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2020-21: 10.5" 2020-21: 52.02" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Link to post Share on other sites
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