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Downvote this post if you want a windstorm.

Briefly beautiful sunrise this morning. Shot from the car. You can even see the inverted shadow of Mt. Hood.  

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Reports of hailstorms in Cedar Hills and possibly elsewhere in the donut hole today.

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Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR
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Snowfall (with % of seasonal average)

2010-2011 - 60.70" (168%)
2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%)
2012-2013 - 25.10" (70%)
2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%)
2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%)
2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%)
2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%)
2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%)
 
2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%)
Nov '18 - 00.20" (5%)
Dec '18 - 05.80" (58%)
Jan '19 - 09.50(80%)
Feb '19 - 27.50" (306%)
Mar '19 - 09.00" (360%)
Apr '19 - 0.30" (30%)
 
2019-2020 - 37.00" (103%)
Nov '19 - 06.50" (163%)
Dec '19 - 06.75" (67%)
Jan '20 - 18.75" (156%)
Feb '20 - 00.00" (0%)
Mar '20 - 04.75" (190%)
Apr '20 - 00.25"
 
2019 Thunderstorms: 14
04/02, 04/19, 05/28, 05/31, 06/01
06/12, 06/28, 07/14, 08/09, 08/10
08/28, 09/05, 09/15, 09/16
Hailstorms: 05/28 (1/4")
Max Gust: 53mph (08/10)
 
2020 Thunderstorms: 10
03/17, 05/18, 06/10, 06/12, 07/22
07/27, 08/05, 08/15, 08/16, 08/25
 
Hailstorms: 07/22 (1/3"), 08/05 (3/4")
Max Gust: ~55+ (09/07), 60 (11/17)
 
Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019)
Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 6.00" (01/16/2020), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012)
Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 13.00" (01/16/2020), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012)
 
T'storm Days: 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 12 (2017), 13 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011) / 1980-2015 Avg = 12
Severe T'storms: 6 (08/05/2020), (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) 
"Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016)
Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports)
(06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011)

 

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18z GFS continues the trend of being troughier and a little more active compared to previous runs.

It actually shows the pre-Thanksgiving trough. But still not as deep with it as the Euro or EPS.

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Getting the feeling that the first half of December will be a little ridgy and dry. Most LR models point to this, plus after a wet November it only makes sense the seesaw would go back to the other side. Then closer to the end of the year we should start seeing some snowy action, with January and possibly February both delivering the goods.

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5 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said:

Getting the feeling that the first half of December will be a little ridgy and dry. Most LR models point to this, plus after a wet November it only makes sense the seesaw would go back to the other side. Then closer to the end of the year we should start seeing some snowy action, with January and possibly February both delivering the goods.

It's been near to below average so far down here, precip wise. 

A wet early December would make sense.

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11 minutes ago, Jesse said:

It's been near to below average so far down here, precip wise. 

A wet early December would make sense.

PDX is at 3.45" for the month. GFS and Euro show close to another 3 inches coming through the 28th. That would put you guys close to an inch above normal for November.

SEA is at 4.15" for the month. Euro shows another 2 inches or so, GFS more. That would put us pretty close to, if not above normal. 

Either way, it's not going to end up a drier than average month unless the models change drastically. 

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1 hour ago, Jesse said:

Looks like you deleted the PM. Anyway there’s nothing blooming here. Nice to see you return to the forum in good form, though. ;)

I was wondering what had happened to you. I figured being sore at me was probably part of the reason.

I mean not even going to get into the fact you seem to always have a issue with everything, Maybe you have a harsh life who knows. But blooming like that isn't really that uncommon up here.

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1 minute ago, Weather1011 said:

I mean not even going to get into the fact you seem to always have a issue with everything, Maybe you have a harsh life who knows. But blooming like that isn't really that uncommon up here.

Jesse always has a bone to pick with everyone and usually claims to have PMs as evidence to back him up. "Don't make me expose you with the PMs you sent me!" has been a re-occurring claim of his for years. 

Best to just ignore it.

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7 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said:

Jesse always has a bone to pick with everyone and usually claims to have PMs as evidence to back him up. "Don't make me expose you with the PMs you sent me!" has been a re-occurring claim of his for years. 

Best to just ignore it.

I never knew that part, I've been reading as a guest for years before I made a account but he's the main reason why I dislike posting on here. We all troll to a extent but he just seems to be a very condescending person. 

 

Oh well.

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17 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said:

PDX is at 3.45" for the month. GFS and Euro show close to another 3 inches coming through the 28th. That would put you guys close to an inch above normal for November.

SEA is at 4.15" for the month. Euro shows another 2 inches or so, GFS more. That would put us pretty close to, if not above normal. 

Either way, it's not going to end up a drier than average month unless the models change drastically. 

Sounds like there's a good chance November ends near normal for the region.

So you guys are both wrong.

Low. Solar.

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After reviewing all 12z models and ensembles particularly from a 500mb standpoint I have to wonder if the Aleutian vortex/low is trying to set up. I see hints of it on the EPS, GEFS. If so, drier, bit warmer, inversions are coming. I personally(others may not) really hope to see the next few runs move away from that solution and back to a classic Nina pattern. C'MON!!!

00z GFS in 3 hours 52 minutes

00z ECMWF in 6 hours 7 minutes

Think Cold and SNOW! C'MON!!!!
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10 minutes ago, van city said:

That's pretty, I am sure Jesse will appreciate it. 

Oh, I didn't realize it was "troll Jesse day", 

Here's mine, found this at the Ace hardware by Tim's place in North Bend

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I can say I've never trolled. I don't find the reason, purpose, or any enjoyment in doing so. I think it can be done sarcastically as long as both parties realize that. I try also to never be condescending. I do try to bullshit as much as possible.

00z NAM in 1 hour 50 minutes

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29 minutes ago, Weather1011 said:

I never knew that part, I've been reading as a guest for years before I made a account but he's the main reason why I dislike posting on here. We all troll to a extent but he just seems to be a very condescending person. 

 

Oh well.

Post here more. I know there is a forum for those close to the Georgia Strait, but I (and probably a few other people) enjoy the input from those on the Island, the lower mainland, Sunshine Coast, and Bellingham. I would encourage people to hit the report button when someone's post is going too far or when people are being rude to others.

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3 minutes ago, iFred said:

Post here more. I know there is a forum for those close to the Georgia Strait, but I (and probably a few other people) enjoy the input from those on the Island, the lower mainland, Sunshine Coast, and Bellingham. I would encourage people to hit the report button when someone's post is going too far or when people are being rude to others.

Sounds good! I will post more often.

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3 minutes ago, Tyler Mode said:

I still find it interesting how nice quality the webcams are in Alaska, but on a pass that sees hundreds (or thousands?) of cars a day looks like it does...

Its easier to get broadband in a settlement than at a pass, so you get a camera that can look better. Also the camera that a lot of DOT agencies are usually the all weather ones, where there is a big ass plastic lens and heater to prevent freezing and cracking.

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36 minutes ago, Weather1011 said:

I never knew that part, I've been reading as a guest for years before I made a account but he's the main reason why I dislike posting on here. We all troll to a extent but he just seems to be a very condescending person.

Oh well.

He downvotes a lot. I think it’s cute and amusing.

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It's called clown range for a reason.

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7 minutes ago, Tyler Mode said:

I still find it interesting how nice quality the webcams are in Alaska, but on a pass that sees hundreds (or thousands?) of cars a day looks like it does...

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The biggest problem with that Stevens Pass image is not the camera, it’s the ice on the lens (or, more likely, the window of the camera housing).

It's called clown range for a reason.

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22 minutes ago, DJ Droppin said:

I can say I've never trolled. I don't find the reason, purpose, or any enjoyment in doing so. I think it can be done sarcastically as long as both parties realize that. I try also to never be condescending. I do try to bullshit as much as possible.

00z NAM in 1 hour 50 minutes

Yeah, I appreciate that about you.

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"Um, actually, it's been drier than average down here so your early December dry call is stoopid, just like you."

Meanwhile, most of NW OR is actually slightly above average for precip so far this month.

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50 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said:

Jesse always has a bone to pick with everyone and usually claims to have PMs as evidence to back him up. "Don't make me expose you with the PMs you sent me!" has been a re-occurring claim of his for years. 

Best to just ignore it.

I think you are getting me confused with someone else. 

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2 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said:

"Um, actually, it's been drier than average down here so your early December dry call is stoopid, just like you."

Meanwhile, most of NW OR is actually slightly above average for precip so far this month.

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Hood River County!!!

Checked Bonneville Dam, they're already ahead of their November average precip at 8.12" so far.

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44 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Sounds like there's a good chance November ends near normal for the region.

So you guys are both wrong.

I mentioned it had been near to below average. Wasn’t expecting the comment to be taken so hard though.

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9 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said:

You should have stuck with the downvote you initially gave that post. Suits you better.

You’re making a mountain out of a molehill right now.

R-E-L-A-X

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Definitely feels like November today. Unsettled, cool weather with occasional hail and downpours. It's dumping in the mountains. The timing is now right. Bring on winter.

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4 minutes ago, dolt said:

Definitely feels like November today. Unsettled, cool weather with occasional hail and downpours. It's dumping in the mountains. The time is now right. Bring on winter.

Here too, minus the hail. Very November-y. Almost time to start railing lines of vitamin D. 

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I quite like Jesse— he’s always been polite and kind towards me on here. Even when I was an, ahem, more abrasive poster.

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.

 

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Up to 0.47” today. Looks like we dry out for a couple hours before the next round. 

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Cold season stats  

Coldest low-30

Coldest high-42

Freezes-1

Monthly rainfall-0.00”

Cold season rainfall-10.14”

Snowfall-0.0”

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1 hour ago, DJ Droppin said:

After reviewing all 12z models and ensembles particularly from a 500mb standpoint I have to wonder if the Aleutian vortex/low is trying to set up. I see hints of it on the EPS, GEFS. If so, drier, bit warmer, inversions are coming. I personally(others may not) really hope to see the next few runs move away from that solution and back to a classic Nina pattern. C'MON!!!

00z GFS in 3 hours 52 minutes

00z ECMWF in 6 hours 7 minutes

Think Cold and SNOW! C'MON!!!!
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EPS looks like it gets a bit wetter toward the last 4 or 5 days.  The maps I have show the jetstream and 24 hour precip, and it looks like the jetstream takes aim at us.  24 hour precip maps get progressively wetter during the same time frame.

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Jesses a good guy. Occasionally not very often he can get a bit carried away but most of the time his comments are meant to be funny and not insulting. Kind of blew up on Jesse about a month ago but came to realize his comment wasn’t meant to be rude...I can understand people thinking his comments are intended to be rude and it’s hard to tell online what people mean. I don’t think his comments he made today were meant in an abrasive way either. Like I said jesses alright. 

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Cold season stats  

Coldest low-30

Coldest high-42

Freezes-1

Monthly rainfall-0.00”

Cold season rainfall-10.14”

Snowfall-0.0”

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