Brian_in_Leavenworth Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, kokaneekidz said: That BLOB just won't go away off the west coast. This is a huge barrier to getting us down a few clicks in the temperature department. The blob as it is currently is not that strong. Nothing at all like the one from a few years ago 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Pete Parsons still on board for January. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Let the southward trend begin. Sigh. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 1 1 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 south 2 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_in_Leavenworth Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 New long range predictions from NOAA. Looks like a stronger signal than last month, IIRC. And for January: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Come back in mid January to find out things have been delayed another month. Lol 1 1 2 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb/eugene Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 18z is further south. GFS might be in the range of digging cold air too far south though at this point. We shall see! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb/eugene Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just a matter of time before Eugene hogs the snow 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Come back in mid January to find out things have been delayed another month. Lol Have we had a La Nina in recent memory start in the last 4-5 weeks of winter? lol Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Kind of a nice day! Evokes thoughts of the other shoe dropping at some point. 1 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, paulb/eugene said: Andrew will be in a good mood for the next 6 hours! Nice! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_in_Leavenworth Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Timmy_Supercell said: Have we had a La Nina in recent memory start in the last 4-5 weeks of winter? lol 1989. I remember it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_in_Leavenworth Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said: Have we had a La Nina in recent memory start in the last 4-5 weeks of winter? lol And so far this Fall/Winter has acted pretty much like a normal La Nina. Ninas and Ninos are usually backloaded, not front loaded. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, paulb/eugene said: Just a matter of time before Eugene hogs the snow TWL might keel over and die if we don't get him a white Christmas soon, so probably for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said: Have we had a La Nina in recent memory start in the last 4-5 weeks of winter? lol 2017-18 1 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, Brian_in_Leavenworth said: And so far this Fall/Winter has acted pretty much like a normal La Nina. Ninas and Ninos are usually backloaded, not front loaded. Dec 2010 was pretty snowy, that was my first full month I lived in K-Falls and close to 24" fell. This one is way drier than that one so far. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Snowpack update. If you want to call it snowpack Subject to change of course. As I've mentioned a couple times I can have a bare New Years turn into nuclear winter in no time. 1 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlTahoe Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said: Dec 2010 was pretty snowy, that was my first full month I lived in K-Falls and close to 24" fell. This one is way drier than that one so far. 2010-2011 was a very strong La Nina that was worlds different than this one. That one kicked into gear in Oct for us. I had 70" of snow that Nov and another 60" that Dec. Then a Jan shutout before Feb and March went crazy. Finished the season with 330" at my house which was a top 5 all time winter. Only at 26" currently on the season. Some areas of California are still sitting at 0" precip for this winter. While Dec 2010 had juicy AR's slamming Southern Cal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted December 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 HIO now +2.3 for the month. I imagine this upcoming AR will raise that a bit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlTahoe Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said: Snowpack update. If you want to call it snowpack Subject to change of course. As I've mentioned a couple times I can have a bare New Years turn into nuclear winter in no time. My lunch time dog walk today. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Lol now it’s an oregon snowstorm! Fine with me I won’t be here. All I care is that somebody scores something atleast. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, AlTahoe said: 2010-2011 was a very strong La Nina that was worlds different than this one. That one kicked into gear in Oct for us. I had 70" of snow that Nov and another 60" that Dec. Then a Jan shutout before Feb and March went crazy. Finished the season with 330" at my house which was a top 5 all time winter. Only at 26" currently on the season. Some areas of California are still sitting at 0" precip for this winter. While Dec 2010 had juicy AR's slamming Southern Cal. Even in 2010 I kept alternating between snow and rain. I think when school was out mid month I had an AR or two dump rain in K-Falls, then back to snowstorms at the end of the year. Nice balance of weather. Also had an AR in February before we started getting blizzards. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthHillFrosty Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 I would love to score, however, I want at least somebody In Washington or Oregon to score at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmet Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 On the 18z GFS, the northern extent of the ridge over the central CONUS is more zonal than meridional compared to the 12z GFS, this leads to a less amplified solution not allowing the shortwave within the 500mb trough to tilt negative compared to 12z. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 18z still keeps it fairly cool next weekend. If not for that annoying cut off low things could get downright decent. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 I kinda like where the clown range is going... 1 Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlTahoe Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said: Even in 2010 I kept alternating between snow and rain. I think when school was out mid month I had an AR or two dump rain in K-Falls, then back to snowstorms at the end of the year. Nice balance of weather. Also had an AR in February before we started getting blizzards. How did your area do in March 2011 for snow? I ended up with 120" at my house that month and the storms kept getting colder and stronger the further you went into the month which was a little unusual. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, AlTahoe said: How did your area do in March 2011 for snow? I ended up with 120" at my house that month and the storms kept getting colder and stronger the further you went into the month which was a little unusual. 120"!? How do you deal with that? 1 Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OysterPrintout Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, OysterPrintout said: the north trend is SO 2016. South is the new north. uhhh I didn't mean for that to happen this fast can we slow it down please I'd prefer our usual last minute disappointment. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, AlTahoe said: How did your area do in March 2011 for snow? I ended up with 120" at my house that month and the storms kept getting colder and stronger the further you went into the month which was a little unusual. I had an insane number of days I observed snow falling, but not a significant total at my place. Lots of wets (happens a lot in early Spring) and for the most part I think the snow that happened at night time made a bigger difference. My notes below... I've had way snowier Marches (15.2" in 2012! or 9.0" in 2019) 03/02/2011: Wet" 03/03/2011: Wet" 03/06/2011: T" 03/07/2011: 0.10" 03/08/2011: 0.90" 03/10/2011: Wet" 03/15/2011: T" 03/16/2011: 1.50" 03/17/2011: Wet" 03/18/2011: T" 03/19/2011: 3.00" 03/20/2011: Wet" 03/21/2011: Wet" 03/22/2011: T" 03/24/2011: Wet" 03/25/2011: Wet" 03/26/2011: Wet" 03/27/2011: T" 03/28/2011: T" Total - 5.5" Only around double normal March snowfall. But crazy list of days though. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlTahoe Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said: 120"!? How do you deal with that? Honda snow blower for the win! Feb 2019 we had 142" March 2018 we had 102" Jan 2017 we had 136" The record is 238" back in Jan 1916. I think that amount would be to much to handle for sure. Also I would think that by the time March 1952 rolled around I would have been in a panic on where to put the snow. Dec 1951 - 106" Jan 1952 - 195" Feb 1952 - 56" March 1952 -127" Like seriously WTF 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said: I kinda like where the clown range is going... You like a warm west/cold east? 3 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, AlTahoe said: Honda snow blower for the win! Feb 2019 we had 142" March 2018 we had 102" Jan 2017 we had 136" The record is 238" back in Jan 1916. I think that amount would be to much to handle for sure. Also I would think that by the time March 1952 rolled around I would have been in a panic on where to put the snow. Dec 1951 - 106" Jan 1952 - 195" Feb 1952 - 56" March 1952 -127" Like seriously WTF Feb 2019 and Dec 2015 locked horns with our greatest snows. Feb 1938 had 39.0" and then 2019 comes in second place with 33.4" at a cocorahs site. Dec 2015 came in 4th/5th spot at 33.1". There are no examples of anything over 40" in Dec (I'm sure there were a few in the late 1800's). January 2017 was big here but ranks a bit lower because we've had more January snowstorms than any other winter month. Still should have been a top-10 tier though. 29.5" that month. Jan 1950 is our all-time snowiest month of the year at 56.5". Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbolin Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Deweydog said: Kind of a nice day! Evokes thoughts of the other shoe dropping at some point. Or thrown Circa "GW" 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Holy crap! the 12z ECMWF and 12Z WRF both show me getting 6 or more inches of snow here early next week. This is the time of year we can pull it off without a major cold airmass in place or an Arctic front. The ECMWF shows some baroclinicity with the system. Shades of Dec 1974 perhaps. 1 1 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlTahoe Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just to show you how fast the snow accumulates here. At the beginning of Feb 2019 there was no snow on the ground and this houses lawn was showing. This picture was Feb 15th. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, AlTahoe said: Just to show you how fast the snow accumulates here. At the beginning of Feb 2019 there was no snow on the ground and this houses lawn was showing. This picture was Feb 15th. What a wonderful climate. Do you get thunderstorms often during the summer as well? 1 Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: Holy crap! the 12z ECMWF and 12Z WRF both show me getting 6 or more inches of snow here early next week. This is the time of year we can pull it off without a major cold airmass in place or an Arctic front. The ECMWF shows some baroclinicity with the system. Shades of Dec 1974 perhaps. So we're just going to ignore the 18z then? 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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