December 2020 Weather Observations for the PNW

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

24 minutes ago, Jesse said:

12z GFS was way wetter in the lowlands and snowier in the mountains the next 10 days than the 12Z Euro.

Would be nice, Anymore there seems to be little difference between nino, nina and neutral.

[SouthHillFrosty]

4 minutes ago, iFred said:

Already one message from someone complaining about all of the "off topic" talk from members in Canada and NW WA.

Just a note, generally the coastal lowlands from Crescent City, CA to Haines, AK are impacted one way or another from the same Pacific systems. This forum is for those folks. If there is a strong interest in an Oregon only discussion thread, then create it. If the thread is active, it will get pinned.

How can you get mad about weather discussions for Washington and Canada in the "December 2020 Weather Observations for the PNW" forum page? Some ppl crack me up

[Jesse]

5 minutes ago, FroYoBro said:

Lol, yeah that is nonsense. The more, the merrier! I love seeing posts from other areas of the west coast. 

Same. That is kind of the purpose of this subforum. Having things broken down into little sub-regions would get too confusing IMO. We are all impacted by the same large scale weather patterns in this region, even if the on the ground results may vary a lot.

[VancouverIslandSouth]

Just now, hawkstwelve said:

Man, Victoria would be getting nuked right now if it was just a wee bit colder.

The precip at the surface is still a light rain/snow mix here. Doesn't really line up with what the radar is showing.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Highway cams show some snow sticking in north Whatcom County around Blaine. Lynden, Sumas, and Ferndale still rain last I checked. So it's transitioning from NW to SE.

[Deweydog]

Just now, TigerWoodsLibido said:

On this date in 99 years ago we had a half inch of snow.

On this date 22 years ago we had about an inch and half.

In fact, right about now it was SNOWING and 22 degrees.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

2 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

How can you get mad about weather discussions for Washington and Canada in the "December 2020 Weather Observations for the PNW" forum page? Some ppl crack me up

Right? It's like, what the fuckk else are we supposed to talk about here? We're going to post our observations down here because it's where we live. Just feels condescending.

[kokaneekidz]

i Fred ! Are you just trying to tune us up a bit? LOL

[SouthHillFrosty]

2 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Right? It's like, what the fuckk else are we supposed to talk about here. We're going to post our observations down here because it's where we live. Just feels condescending.

Even tho Victoria and Vancouver are in Canada, we all share the same climate so it shouldn't matter if they are in a different country or not. 

[TigerWoodsLibido]

3 minutes ago, kokaneekidz said:

i Fred ! Are you just trying to tune us up a bit? LOL

Think of how bad it's gonna be if even places like Lewis County north score and all of Oregon and SW Washington posters will be posting obs about rain and being hopeful that a pattern down the line can produce something favorable for our part of the region. It'll be a "civil war" on here at that point.

[kokaneekidz]

Just now, SouthHillFrosty said:

Even tho Victoria and Vancouver are in Canada, we all share the same climate so it shouldn't matter if they are in a different country or not. 

Victoria should be part of USA as it is south of the 49th parallel. If it were on the mainland it would be.

[Jesse]

5 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Think of how bad it's gonna be if even places like Lewis County north score and all of Oregon and SW Washington posters will be posting obs about rain and being hopeful that a pattern down the line can produce something for favorable for our part of the region. It'll be a "civil war" on here at that point.

You wish. There have been set ups like that before and it's usually just fine. There will always be a few posters who have a problem but most here are pretty civil and can see the bigger picture. It's cool when anywhere in the western lowlands score because it's relatively rare for all of us, whether you live in Vancouver BC or Medford. 

[Kayla]

Absolutely torching here today as well (currently 51F!) so I guess that means our patterns are connected so I'll be posting my daily reports here going forward! Thanks Fred!! 

[Deweydog]

6 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Think of how bad it's gonna be if even places like Lewis County north score and all of Oregon and SW Washington posters will be posting obs about rain and being hopeful that a pattern down the line can produce something favorable for our part of the region. It'll be a "civil war" on here at that point.

What we’ve got here is.... a failure... to communicate.

[Jesse]

5 minutes ago, kokaneekidz said:

Victoria should be part of USA as it is south of the 49th parallel. If it were on the mainland it would be.

There was almost a war over that very thing. Started by a pig  getting shot on someone's farm in the San Juan's.

[Skagit Weather]

Temp just started dropping. Still mostly in the shadow, but there seem to be a good couple of moisture blobs headed this way. 39F

[Rubus Leucodermis]

7 minutes ago, kokaneekidz said:

Victoria should be part of USA as it is south of the 49th parallel. If it were on the mainland it would be.

Take a look at eastern Canada some time. Lots of it is south of the 49th.

Would have been impractical to have Vancouver Island split by a border. I would support selling Point Roberts to Canada for the same reason.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

2 minutes ago, Jesse said:

There was almost a war over that very thing. Started by a pig  getting shot on someone's farm in the San Juan's.

Of course they won't complain when they are eating a pork chop.

[Jesse]

3 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Of course they won't complain when they are eating a pork chop.

This was in 1859. And didn't have anything do to with vegetarianism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_War_(1859)

[wxmet]

Mix line is just east of Metchosin shouldn’t be much longer for Victoria assuming temps will cooperate.

 

 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

5 minutes ago, Jesse said:

There was almost a war over that very thing. Started by a pig  getting shot on someone's farm in the San Juan's.

The boundary treaty had wording which turned out to be ambiguous in the case of the San Juan Islands. There never was any ambiguity about Vancouver Island. It was always British/Canadian.

If the drafters of the treaty had known about Point Roberts, they would have probably given it to Canada.

[VancouverIslandSouth]

Pretty wintery scene for inland parts of the island today (this is west of Duncan):

Incredibly the temperature has continued to drop here in Victoria (down to 0.4C/32.7F) yet there still isn't any accumulation to speak of (hopefully that doesn't offend anyone). 

[Chewbacca Defense]

Temp is on a steady march down...dropped one degree to 35 in the past 40 minutes, up to 1.12" in the rain gauge.  Looks like its just rain IMBY.

[North_County]

16 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Even tho Victoria and Vancouver are in Canada, we all share the same climate so it shouldn't matter if they are in a different country or not. 

Plus Victoria is south of many Washington posters in this subforum. I'd argue their weather is often more relevant to central Puget Sound than mine is.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Precip rates lightening here, and radar indicates the heavy stuff that dragged snow levels down around Blaine missed me and is exiting my area. So it looks like I'll be heading for the hills.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Was looking at the sat pic and the front is very well defined out in the ocean. 

[Jesse]

2 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

The boundary treaty had wording which turned out to be ambiguous in the case of the San Juan Islands. There never was any ambiguity about Vancouver Island. It was always British/Canadian.

If the drafters of the treaty had known about Point Roberts, they would have probably given it to Canada.

Same general idea. But thanks for the clarification, Hermione!

[Skagit Weather]

Looks like it's pretty snowy up near the border. This is near Birch Bay on I-5.

[Timmy]

Latest hi-res models

[Canadian guy]

3 minutes ago, VancouverIslandSouth said:

Pretty wintery scene for inland parts of the island today (this is west of Duncan):

Incredibly the temperature has continued to drop here in Victoria (down to 0.4C/32.7F) yet there still isn't any accumulation to speak of (hopefully that doesn't offend anyone). 

Should be changing over for you anytime now. Accumulating on roads now too! 

[SouthHillFrosty]

Any posters out in Port Angeles? Wonder if they turned to snow yet

[wxmet]

1 minute ago, hawkstwelve said:

Looks like it's snowy up near the border.

Mix line is just north of Bellingham

[Requiem]

29 minutes ago, iFred said:

Already one message from someone complaining about all of the "off topic" talk from members in Canada and NW WA.

Just a note, generally the coastal lowlands from Crescent City, CA to Haines, AK are impacted one way or another from the same Pacific systems. This forum is for those folks. If there is a strong interest in an Oregon only discussion thread, then create it. If the thread is active, it will get pinned.

Last I heard BC and NW WA are both in the PACNW....

[MossMan]

Temp went from 47 to 41 in 15min here! 
Up to 1.03” of rainfall on the day. 

[North_County]

9 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Take a look at eastern Canada some time. Lots of it is south of the 49th.

Would have been impractical to have Vancouver Island split by a border. I would support selling Point Roberts to Canada for the same reason.

As long as we're on this "off"-topic, interesting story about Sumas. The surveyors missed the 49th parallel here, and drew the border line too far south. It eventually got corrected as the surveyors moved further west. But the result is a strip about 100 yards wide stretching for a few miles that is offficially part of the USA but north of 49°, making Sumas the furthest north incorporated city in the lower 48. My house just about straddles where the border "should" be.

[VancouverIslandSouth]

4 minutes ago, Canadian guy said:

Should be changing over for you anytime now. Accumulating on roads now too! 

Yep, it's switched over to all snow and the temperature dropped further, it's sticking to most surface here now.

[bainbridgekid]

I5 is covered at milepost 271 twelve miles North of BLI.

[Esquimalt]

2 minutes ago, VancouverIslandSouth said:

Yep, it's switched over to all snow and the temperature dropped further, it's sticking to most surface here now.

Still rain in cook street village, where abouts are you?

[Rubus Leucodermis]

So close… yet so far.

[wxmet]

Bigger picture of where the mix line is.